Audi has an "RS" model assault planned on the market... Will all their hopeful models become a reality in the U.S?

GermanNuts: are you in high school or college?

— SixxFive (View Profile)

Posted on 7/28/2006 3:50:17 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

AUDI RS line rules! but there is no RS8 , RSQ7??

— Parkinglot2 (View Profile)

Posted on 7/28/2006 3:52:52 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

Just graduated from UT Austin

— Parkinglot2 (View Profile)

Posted on 7/28/2006 4:02:59 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

To: SixxFive

The answer to your question is neither of the above.

I am wise beyond my years in reference to the auto enthusiast community

— GermanNut (View Profile)

Posted on 7/28/2006 4:23:02 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

faster acceleration than m3? from what starting to final speed? in terms of a sports car, 50-100mph should be referenced rather than 0-60mph. i don't know which car is faster, but people always quote 0-60mph like its all that matters.

— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 7/28/2006 4:38:08 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

The Audi RS4 is faster than the M3 from 0-60 mph, 50-100 mphs or any other increments that you want to use.

From a stand still 0-60 the RS4 is faster. From a rolling start the RS4 is also faster as well as in the 1/4 mile.

The M3 does not win a single acceleration test against the Audi RS4.

— GermanNut (View Profile)

Posted on 7/28/2006 4:41:56 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

ttrs....THE definition of pocket rocket.
rs6 should be good
r8 will be very different from most things.

— Rupert (View Profile)

Posted on 7/28/2006 4:52:45 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

It's fun seeing people get excited about the Audi RS line. Let's pay $70k for a car!

— crackityjones (View Profile)

Posted on 7/28/2006 4:57:05 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

crackityjones

Hey, if you have the money, why not, they are excellent cars. And those that doubt that the RS4 demolished the M3 read this. The Audi spec 4.8 0-60 is very conservative, the real time is 4.3. Here is proof.

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=385450

As you can see that is a BMW fan forum.

— chewy (View Profile)

Posted on 7/28/2006 5:27:52 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2   

After reading that thread, it's obvious that the RS4 is the faster car. The only thing the BMW fans can say is "well, the M3 is more fun to drive". That doesn't address the fact that the RS4 destroys the M3 in a drag race and on the track. The guy in the RS4 wasn't even trying in some of the races.

http://www.autoblog.com/2006/05/26/video-audi-rs4-vs-bmw-m3-cs/

— anS4inOC (View Profile)

Posted on 7/28/2006 8:39:39 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

I am about 95 % sure the RS3 won't come to the US, 100% chance that the R8 will come here, the RS6 will probably come but in several years, same with the RS5. A higher performance Audi TT with about 350 hp should also come sometime.

— chewy (View Profile)

Posted on 7/28/2006 8:42:29 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2   

Your exactly correct, the BRAND NEW RS4 will crush the OLD e46 m3. You guys are new model ahead of us. Once the new M3 comes out, i highly doubt you will be able to say the RS4 crushes, or even beats the M3.

— 325baller (View Profile)

Posted on 7/28/2006 8:44:19 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Well if the new M3 can't beat a 0-60 time of 4.3 seconds and a quarter mile in 11.3 it will in fact be slower than the Audi RS4.

I desperately want the BMW M# to be faster than the Audi RS4. I'm switching to the BMW side (I currently drive an A4) and even I will admit as will all M# owners that Audi has clearly set the bar a lot higher and in order to remain the leader of the pack, the M3 will indeed have to be one absolutely mind blowingly good car.

Jeremy Clarkson said the same thing during the episode when he test drove the RS4.

The E90 BMW M3 will have to come with a moon indeed...

— GermanNut (View Profile)

Posted on 7/28/2006 9:03:27 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Quarter mile of 12.8 seconds, sorry for the typo. If it was a 1/4 of 11.3 Audi would be running right alongside the Carrera GT.

— GermanNut (View Profile)

Posted on 7/28/2006 9:04:32 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Racer1

The RS4 is at least 1/2 second quicker than the CTS-V. As 325baller said correctly, the RS4 does demolish the current M3, the next M3 will be equal if not slightly faster than the RS4. It is a cycle, that will repeat.

— chewy (View Profile)

Posted on 7/28/2006 9:10:10 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

Racer1

You that one guy that argued before. MT recently did a test between the RS4 and the CTS-V, the RS4 was about .5 second quicker IRC. It is over. The RS4 is quicker, don't give me those inflated Cadillac times. It was one on one comparison. The RS4 was quicker. That is it.

— chewy (View Profile)

Posted on 7/28/2006 9:59:12 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -3   

Racer1

Go read a copy of MOTOR TREND, (American magazine) you will see that the RS4 was quicker. That will solve everything.

— chewy (View Profile)

Posted on 7/28/2006 11:19:01 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -4   

Guys, here's the deal. Audi RS4 is a badass, no question.

But come on. Can Audi put a weeee bit of that MOJO into their freaking A4?

So far, nein.

Wake me when Audi shows they can put power into their attainable cars (like arch-nemesis BMW does.)

So far, you have to donate organs to get Audi power. I'm not impressed by that.

— crackityjones (View Profile)

Posted on 7/29/2006 1:35:48 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -4   

BMW usually offers the least power. The 5 series came with 185 hp engine not long ago. The base 5 series offers 40 less hp than the base A6.

— chewy (View Profile)

Posted on 7/29/2006 3:30:18 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -3   

Crackity go drive an Sline 2.0T A4 or A3 the start of the Audi line up then go drive a 325 and let me know what is the better car.

Don't even drive the C class

— IamEvilHomer (View Profile)

Posted on 7/29/2006 2:02:05 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Racer1

Motor Trend is far from German biased, look at the covers, American muscle is on the cover most of the time. Wrong again, just accept the facts.

— chewy (View Profile)

Posted on 7/29/2006 3:38:45 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -4   

Racer1

Because, you can't post pictures on Auto Spies anymore. Why don't you accept the fact that head to head the RS4 was about .5 seconds quicker than the Cadillac CTS-V.

— chewy (View Profile)

Posted on 7/29/2006 5:58:36 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -4   

Homer, would you rec'd the A4 or A3 2.0T? I hear the FWD A3 is more fun to drive.

— crackityjones (View Profile)

Posted on 7/29/2006 6:47:37 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

rs4 was made to own the m3 and it does and i really doubt the new m3 will be able to beat it
now heres where we get into the debate put an rs4 against and m5 and its a different story..
rs4 should beat it but it wasnt made to.. thats where the rs6 steps in.. guys go check it out theyre sticking a v10 and the legendary m5 should have some competition. the rs4 just own any m3 no debate.. i just want to know about the rs6 vs. the m5.
audi have raised the bar tremendously and i think the bmw are losing their edge!
bm's already have a highly respected status and stuill have it but if their not carefull the new kid on the block the rs* is wipeing the florr with em at the moment..
what do u rekon will be quicker the m5 or the rs6 (the new rs6 im talkin about and i dont no much about if bmw are makeing a new m5)

— audis4quattro (View Profile)

Posted on 7/29/2006 6:54:18 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

BMW owners can say what they want. Yes, the M3 is a MORE FUN car to drive. On the other hand, there is absolutely no denying the fact that the RS4 can kill and I mean kill an M3 in a straight-line test from 0-60, 50-100, 1/4 mile or even from a rolling start.

I will be going to BMW for my own valid reasons. I currently drive an Audi A4.

I reckon the new RS6 will be quite a bit faster than the E60 M5.

Just look at the historical pattern. When the previous RS6 was launched it defeated the BMW M5 in a straight-line.

— GermanNut (View Profile)

Posted on 7/29/2006 7:54:03 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

The answer to the article question is NOP. Audi still has a long way to go. Let another 15 to 20 years. Wait add another 15 years just to be safe.

— BMWRocks (View Profile)

Posted on 7/29/2006 8:34:48 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2   

Racer1
How can you not believe a magazine that tested the two cars on the same day, in the same conditions, most likely with the same driver, and in the end the RS4 was about half a second quicker. That is the end of my argument.

— chewy (View Profile)

Posted on 7/29/2006 8:46:09 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Sorry M3 fans when the RS5 comes out it will beat the new M3 again thats how it will go guys.

— Parkinglot2 (View Profile)

Posted on 7/30/2006 3:16:57 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

crackityjones the 2.0 T and the DSG is great ( i would prefer the A3 2.0T quattro but the 3.2 is fun just prefer the 2.0

— IamEvilHomer (View Profile)

Posted on 7/30/2006 3:54:20 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

BMWRocks - if you are so sure BMW does rock then why do you spend all your time in the Audi post? I almost never go to the BMW post.

You are like a gaybasher that is waiting to come out of the closet. Come out and you will feel better. Lance Bass did it and he feels better.

— IamEvilHomer (View Profile)

Posted on 7/30/2006 3:57:17 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

I wonder why nobody mentioned RS6 MTM. That's a beast. Does anyone know if it's faster than M5?

— AUTO_UNION (View Profile)

Posted on 7/30/2006 3:30:34 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Hell yeah, RS6(with MTM) eats M5 easlily as a lunch! shit gottta go....

— Parkinglot2 (View Profile)

Posted on 7/30/2006 8:23:48 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Auto union we are talking about stock but it is a great car BRING ME THE NEXT RS6

— IamEvilHomer (View Profile)

Posted on 7/31/2006 1:16:51 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

I will take the side of bmw even though he can not be faster than audi!

— wrghz (View Profile)

Posted on 7/31/2006 3:34:01 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

I am confused? I live in South Africa and commute to the uk quite often. In these countries we have the M3, M3 CS and teh M3 CSL available. The S4 similar in price to the M3 and the M3CS to the RS4, they also compare better performance wise. Autocar recently tested the RS4 and the M3CS (Not the CSL), The M3CS was voted the winner.
Are these vehicles not available in the US, and if so why not. You are missing out on the finest examples!!

— jacques (View Profile)

Posted on 7/31/2006 5:01:43 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Jacques - in the USA we don't get all the fun cars. The Germans are still trying to get back at us for WWII

— IamEvilHomer (View Profile)

Posted on 7/31/2006 1:21:30 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

no m3cs or m3csl in usa. i guess they thought the price hike was too much over already pricey coupe. but with rs4 on the market, we may get the real deal m3's

— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 7/31/2006 4:14:55 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

diablo69, 0-60 has long been overrated. how about a lotus for example, that will get burnt by everyone in 0-60, but is the best ride on a mountain road. interesting that the ferrari and lotus will never see awd. why? it makes the car fat and clumsy. not sporty. awd helps launch the car from a standstill, but hinders driving once you get rolling. new m3's will have 400hp(expected). this power is slightly less than the rs4's 420hp. the audi might well get the 0-60 edge. but the m3 will be lighter,and outhandle the audi. so look at the whole picture, like bmw taught us, balance makes a great car (and person). audi can have all the pissing-contest stats it wants, but the m3 has been a legend for decades for a reason: balance

didn't the $80k vw phaeton share quite a bit with A8? yes, toyota rebadges to appeal to vanity. and vw has it's own engineers. but can you actually

— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 8/2/2006 10:24:37 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Audi's RS4 has succeeded in pushing the M3 to the corner and thats why BMW has got no choice but to go back to TC to look for solution.

Personally, I wont be surprise that BMW will one day start offering AWD system for their M cars.

— Green (View Profile)

Posted on 8/7/2006 1:35:24 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

bmw, as well as mb and cadillac and infiniti and porsche all recognize awd is not for sportiest models. it is an aid in UTILITY. yes, porsche turbo is awd, but the top models are rwd. if someone at bmw puts awd on M model, they need to get shot in the face. awd detracts, not adds to sportiness. wake up.

— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 8/22/2006 6:51:35 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1