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Best coupe in the world?
What do you think is the best coupe in the world? Doesn't matter what size or priceclass.

Anything is allowed.

And please don't ruin this topic and debate in a decent way.

So no Lexus/Merc/BMW/..etc bashing!

That means no deboosting. Just respect everybody's opinion, even if it's a very silly one.



the reason why I put up this topic is because I'm starting to look for a replacement for my beloved A8. And since I really don't need backseats anymore a coupe is an option.


Thank you




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DiamondJimDiamondJim - 3/21/2007 1:45:28 PM
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why not the CL63 AMG?

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RupertRupert - 3/18/2007 4:42:27 PMView My AgentSpace
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The SC430 is the worst Lexus, the worst car in its class.
You are completely insane.


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GTR35GTR35 - 3/19/2007 11:30:46 PMView My AgentSpace
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AHAAA, LEXUSMANIAC you're a CRACKHEAD. I'm a Japanese car fan but the SC430 is the worst car to name in this topic. I know what you can do with the SC: SHOVE-IT

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GennissenGennissen - 3/20/2007 6:26:16 AM
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from A8 to an SC430 or Toyota. This is the problem with Lexus Fanboys. They are just too fascist. They clearly didn't even consider SevorBeupstry's taste.

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SilverAeroSilverAero - 3/21/2007 11:12:52 AM
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Do you get it yet, no one here agrees with you. Your statements are like saying i prefer Chicken to Cow Because their is more meat. Your arguments hold as much water as a strainer.

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SilverAeroSilverAero - 3/21/2007 11:19:27 AM
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Maybe if we ignore them they won't piss us off as much.


DiamondJimDiamondJim - 3/21/2007 1:48:00 PM
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you just seem to be here to piss people off, you're probably a Lexus employee, management even. can you talk normal for once?

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kart1kart1 - 3/18/2007 2:16:36 PM
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The best coupe right now is probably the M6. The A5 looks good as well and maybe if want a M3 you can wait for that.

Also, if want the coupe that looks the best: Maserati Granturismo.

Of course, if you are having a midlife crisis there's nothing better than a Corvette. Just kidding.

Oh btw, the SC or Solara shouldn't not be considered sevorbeupstry, seriously.


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M53RM53R - 3/19/2007 8:39:04 AMView My AgentSpace
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why did you get deboosted? I saw your comment as reasonable and unbaised. FANBOYS SHOULD DIE


mitchatlexusofmarinmitchatlexusofmarin - 3/18/2007 2:39:03 PM
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Audi A5- for the money.

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rom64rom64 - 3/18/2007 2:47:42 PM
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Porsche 911 - Any Variant.

Always was and always will be.


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jmrA480jmrA480 - 3/18/2007 2:50:21 PM
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Well whats your price range?
I know you have the A8 but do you want to spend more or less?

If you want to spend less go for a S5 when it comes out, or an M3 but that might not be for a while. If you want to spend more why not a 911 4S, especially if you need the AWD like the A8. The Cl is a good choice along with the M6. Personally I like the sportiness of the M6 over the more luxury oriented CL.

If your willing to spend alittle more then the M6 or CL, go for the Aston Martin V-8 Vantage,911 turbo or Audi R8(if you can get your hands on a R8, that would be my choice)

I know you wouldnt get the SC, but just in case...NO,NO,NO,NO!!!! Ugly as hell, never drove one so not gonna say anything about that, but its hiddeous


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jmrA480jmrA480 - 3/18/2007 3:09:01 PM
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I know you said dont worry about price, but its hard to choose without it. If price is not important I would go with the Aston Martin Vanquish S or a Ferrari F430/or 599 GTB. A guy can Dream right?


GennissenGennissen - 3/20/2007 6:34:09 AM
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You are not too old for an M6. Don't make the mistake of spending that much just so that you can please your wife and society. buy it for you. life is short, buy what you want.

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Will_Will_ - 3/18/2007 3:01:19 PM
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A real baller would already have a Rolls 100EX on order by now...

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ChipChip - 3/18/2007 3:13:55 PM
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Im gonna say the 335i, the reason being that I just ordered one.

If money was no object, then I would look at the CL550.

Since you are an A8 driver, I imagine the A5 or S5 would suit you perfectly.



Westside7thWestside7th - 3/18/2007 3:13:16 PM
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Jaguar XKR is the best looking coupe or automobile for that matter.

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GennissenGennissen - 3/20/2007 6:40:34 AM
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Thats for sure. Performance, handling, sexy looking and yet does well to state that you are a gentleman

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LexusLexus - 3/18/2007 3:24:03 PM
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I say the best coupe out there has to be the Aston Martin V8 Vantage. The beauty and present of the V8 Vantage is breath taking.

Lexus


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jmrA480jmrA480 - 3/18/2007 3:27:02 PM
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any aston would be fine, they are all beautiful.


RupertRupert - 3/18/2007 4:43:26 PMView My AgentSpace
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Bentley Continental GT.
But for real money, the new A5/S5 or XKR.


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senorgatosenorgato - 3/18/2007 5:59:25 PM
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MB CL
Jaguar XKR
BMW 6/M6
MB CLS

In that order of preference.





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S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 3/18/2007 9:40:32 PMView My AgentSpace
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Hmm...

Luxury/comfort: new CL, definitely

Value: 335i

Performance: 911

Style: XK

This is a tantilizing class. I'll be looking at a two-door, myself, but I'm more into convertibles. 6 Series, 911, XK, CLK and M3 are all on my list. I'll probably get a one or two-year-old S4 Avant as my winter car, or an S5 coupe- but I probably want a four-door winter car with a lot of cargo capacity.


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S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 3/18/2007 11:17:23 PMView My AgentSpace
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Why was I so de-boosted?


M53RM53R - 3/19/2007 8:42:51 AMView My AgentSpace
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I thought you knew autospies better by now! Anything unbaised will get deboosted by the fanboys, who deboost people just because they dont like them.


JRobUSCJRobUSC - 3/19/2007 4:19:15 PM
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because your post didn't say "any Lexus over everything else always and forever! Even if you want a sport coupe and the only one Lexus makes barely qualifies as one it's Lexus all the way! Get an LS460 sedan, it's better than an Enzo!!!" If you don't want to get deboosted around here that's what you have to say in your posts.

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JRobUSCJRobUSC - 3/19/2007 4:25:24 PM
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and to the original threader, if we're NOT talking convertibles then the A5 and 335i Coupe look good in the lower luxury segment, BMW 650i Coupe (not a fan of the look of the convertible, love the coupe) and Jaguar XK in the mid-upper luxury segment, and CL550 at the top end. If we're including convertibles the new 335i Convertible, XK, or SL get my vote. My dream car would be the Aston Martin in either coupe or convertible but it sounds like you're looking for something more comfortable than that. I've never driven one, though, so I don't know how they ride.


Agent63Agent63 - 3/18/2007 9:50:46 PMView My AgentSpace
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LexusManiac,

Haha you're really making a name for yourself on this website. A house-hold moron at that. Give me a break, an SC430 as the best coupe in the world?

Better than the SL or the XK I think not. You obviously haven't driven it. Who's paying you to say these dumb comments. Even the Lexus fans aren't supporting you on this one. I was too quick to think that Lexus fans wont be in on this thread supporting the brand but you the Maniac that you are had to say something so stupid.

Lexus has no coupe that's competitive in any market i'm sorry but that's a fact. The SC is poorly styled as well as low on performance against its supposed 'competition'. THe interior i like i'll give it that but that's it.

If it was the greatest coupe in the world then why didn't Jeremy Clarkson already get his hands on one of these. From what I know he didn't even review the GS430 and I love that car. He reviewed the LS because of it's extended cabin along with the Maybach-like seats to compare against an Ultra Luxury brand because of what it offers at a much much lower cost. IT doesn't mean it's as good, it's just a comparison. In this case the SC is not better than an SL, 6 series, and etc. Since you support it, are you a female? because i've noticed many SC drivers are female.

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Lexus,

I think the Aston's a hot car as well. I don't know about it being the best but it sure is up there on my list. I'm glad you didn't say the SC was the best coupe in the world. I respect you for not joining LexusManiac.


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Agent63Agent63 - 3/19/2007 10:04:01 AMView My AgentSpace
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You obviously know nothing about the history of the SL. The 300 Gullwing was a pinnacle design in automotive history. In my opinion it's THE first true supercar in it's time.

It can not be better than the SL in today's time either. I don't know how you can pull these comments out of your ass but you're getting support my friend.

If it's such a great sports car then I don't see many around and I don't see great news about them. The only people I see who may not complain are the female drivers who own them. They are not the best coupes in the world and it's obvious you can't accept a loss. Owners of SL's are posers? you have got to be kidding me.

If I was to call someone a poser I would call Lexus owners posers because it's more value for money in the luxury market. BUT I won't even go that far to say a dumb comment because I actually do respect some of the work that Lexus has put out. Unlike me, you don't respect the other brands. You continue to be the house-hold moron so please stop making yourself look worse.

Haven't you read people's comments about your comments? deboosted how many times? give me a break. You might as well leave this website.



GTR35GTR35 - 3/19/2007 11:37:19 PMView My AgentSpace
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Lexusmaniac are you six years old?

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BMW_DRVRBMW_DRVR - 3/20/2007 8:18:06 AM
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I wasn't dumb when i was six. He is just retarded or something.


LexusLexus - 3/19/2007 12:00:14 AM
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Agent63,

Come on...Agent63, just because I like Lexus does not mean I make up lie.

I mean you want the best of the best than I say the Lambo Gallardo for sure.


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Agent63Agent63 - 3/19/2007 12:34:21 AMView My AgentSpace
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Fair enough fair enough. At least you're not like LexusManiac who claims the SC430 is the best coupe in the world. It's slow, sluggish, and not exactly the best designed car.

Whether you agree with me or not that's fine. The car is not worth the money. However, if there is a 3rd generation SC it may have a chance since it's coming from behind it may have an advantage since they know what they'll have to do to make a good sports gt coupe.



LexusLexus - 3/19/2007 1:29:18 AM
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If Lexus do make a third gen Lexus SC, I hope it will be more power, and bigger. Hopefully it around the same size as the BMW 6 Series. I hope they will spend more time with that car on performance and handling. After all it a suppose to be a sportcar.

One more thing, Lexus please make the next Lexus SC gen more muscular and aggressive so that it more of a man car. The current Lexus SC is underpower compare to it competitor and I think it look really soft compare to the BMW 6 Series and MB CLS.



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Agent63Agent63 - 3/19/2007 9:58:20 AMView My AgentSpace
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I wouldn't say make it a man's car but for sure make it more aggressive and sportier looking. It will appeal to the younger crowd for sure. A new design and new engine should be offered to this model since it's way behind in terms of performance,handling, and styling. It needs to have a wider stance to have the look of a sports car as well.

Like I said before in my response to LexusManiac, the interior I don't mind, it's just the exterior that bugs me.

=)



nvmenvme - 3/19/2007 4:17:09 AM
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Buy a BMW 335 coupe, you won't be disappointed...

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nvmenvme - 3/19/2007 4:20:23 AM
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Lexusmaniac ur name says a lot about you
anyway you really need to wake up, get a grip on reality, i mean i understand that you like the SC but to find it THAT good... have you even tried some of its competition?


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nvmenvme - 3/19/2007 4:26:19 AM
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lexusmaniac u have no idea how europe works
i mean blaming communism because some like euro cars, come on!!!!!!


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nvmenvme - 3/20/2007 6:44:21 AM
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says a lot about what you know and in this case NOT know!! i could out argue you anytime that the best cars in the world are in europe!
besides the name boris can be german or even french so assuming he's russian just for that is like assuming lexus has the best cars just because you like them in a perverted manner....


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M53RM53R - 3/19/2007 8:52:23 AMView My AgentSpace
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well here is my list:

BMW 335i/M3

Audi A5/S5

AM DB9

BMW 650i/M6

AM V8 vantage

M-B Cl550/CL63

Lambo gallardo

Ferrari F430

BMW M5 (biased ;) not a coupe :P

Lexus SC430....... jk :P

All of those are brilliant* in there ways, for different prices.

*SC430 excluded


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nvmenvme - 3/20/2007 6:47:39 AM
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we almost have the same list except i'd take an AMV8 rather than the DB9...


golfer38golfer38 - 3/19/2007 9:10:21 AMView My AgentSpace
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Like so many have already said, it depends on your angle. If your looking for performance first, R8 or 911. If your looking for luxury with performance feel as secondary then CL550. If your looking for ultimate performance and ultimate luxury CL63 or even a VAnquish S.

...Oh and btw, hopefully everyone can quit wasting their time responding to Lexusridilintaker. His/her takes are so idiotic that he/she is obviously trying to get a rise out of people.


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S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 3/19/2007 10:14:38 AMView My AgentSpace
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Lexusmaniac, all the other Lexus fans know and accept that the SC is a total piece of crap next to its competition.

1. It's slow. The Mercedes has an 80hp advantage... and it's not even the most powerful for the money. You can get an XKR (420hp) for less money than an SL550.

2. It looks like a bathtub, or at least a used bar of soap. LEAST-sexy car in this class, by far. It's almost the opposite of sexy-- but the fact that it has a hardtop redeems it.

3. The interior isn't all that beautiful. It seems like a carbon copy of the last-gen XK's interior, but with a flip-out navigation screen. The rear seats are useless, and the 6 Series's interior is better IMO.

4. It's not hugely reliable, either. Don't be surprised if the XLR or XK get better reliability ratings. XJ was only second to the LS430 in reliability, so Jaguar is really moving up.

5. You're an idiot. Do you like any other car but Lexus? Can you even afford a used Lexus?


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golfer38golfer38 - 3/19/2007 11:34:01 AMView My AgentSpace
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I know its hard to resist slaming the idiots claims, but your playing right into his hand which in turn will keep him/her writing this nonsense. Your giving him the attention he obviously craves.


07mcs07mcs - 3/19/2007 12:24:16 PM
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Doesn't matter that is slow, some people don't drive fast. The thing that is really not doing it for the SC430 is style. Just an UGLY car.


Threepoint1415926Threepoint1415926 - 3/19/2007 1:30:44 PM
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It's 4 years/50K miles here in the states for both Jag and Mercedes. You can also extend your warranty to 7 years/100K miles for $4K if you think it's worth it....

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07mcs07mcs - 3/19/2007 12:22:37 PM
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If you don't need backseats and you already have an A8, how about replacing it with something about the same price or a little higher. I would vote for the Porsche 911 Carrera or Carrera S

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07mcs07mcs - 3/19/2007 1:44:59 PM
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The Jaguar XK is a luxury ride. If you can spring for the AMV8, that would be a good choice too. But that car is on a different level now.


golfer38golfer38 - 3/19/2007 3:44:54 PMView My AgentSpace
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The Maserati is the most gorgeous coupe or at least it will be when its released, but I think that's more than a year away. If it was me, I'd wait.

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MurderFaceM6MurderFaceM6 - 3/19/2007 1:08:49 PM
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M6
i test drove a new M6 and the thing is just wonderful, very smooth gear shift, no pull whatsoever and quicky goes on my #1 list as the replacement for my 645ci...

others that are on my "good looking list"

CL550 / CL600

AUDI R8

PORSCHE CAYMAN S (carrara white)

AUDI S5

BMW 335i / M3

VOLVO C70


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answeranswer - 3/19/2007 1:11:29 PMView My AgentSpace
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Favorite coupes, past and present:

-Original Lexus SC400
-BMW 850csi
-Aston Martin DBS
-Jag XKR

(All in black of course)


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cdokecdoke - 3/19/2007 2:20:04 PMView My AgentSpace
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It has been said on here before, it really does depend upon how you approach the decision and what you want. For me, personally, whilst I don't want a slow car, I could care less if someone has a faster car than I. My list:

1. Aston Martin DB9. Why? The V12 Vanquish has a beautiful exterior, but a shockingly disappointing interior. You will find the buttons [rectangular ones] on a Vanquish that you will find inside of a 12 year old Jaguar XJ. It s true. Its replacement, DBS, I have the opposite phenomenon: the interior is immaculate, but the exterior body-kit destroys some of the proportion that I like.

2. XKR. I admit the following: I have not been able to get my hands on the coupe version of this car: they are all sold out here, so everything I have experience has been the convertible. From pictures I do believe that the coupe is sexier than the convertible.

3. Bentley Brooklands. It is just so pretty in a classically Bentley way. I can't bring myself to identify the Continental with Bentley.

3. Ferrari 612 Scaglietti, which I think is the most refined [looking] of all Ferraris.

4. Maserati Coupe [new one] It was going to be number 3, but I realized I really don't like the interior.


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cdokecdoke - 3/19/2007 2:36:37 PMView My AgentSpace
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...and apparently I can't count. I actually forgot the Brooklands, then forgot to change the numbering.


cdokecdoke - 3/19/2007 3:12:01 PMView My AgentSpace
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You know, were money no object, then the Brooklands would be my number one. I honestly am not impressed easily: something which my friends have told me, but when I saw the pictures of the Brooklands, it took my breath away. It is so classic and yet there are traces of the modern in the roofline. The interior of course is immaculate.


cdokecdoke - 3/19/2007 5:22:52 PMView My AgentSpace
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Unlike those two though, the Brooklands is classically Bentley. The interior is basically the same as the one they have had for years in the Arnage in the front: minus the Continental seats. The only thing about it that distinguishes it from its previous bretheren is the rear and the roofline, which was a excellect alteration, I think.

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GennissenGennissen - 3/20/2007 7:05:00 AM
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let us know how the experience was.

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huu76huu76 - 3/19/2007 7:21:08 PM
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Convertible would be 2003-04 SLK Kompressor (conservative hardtop).

Coupe is Skyline GT-R. Not many ppl know what it is.


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GTR35GTR35 - 3/19/2007 11:34:22 PMView My AgentSpace
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WeFlyHighNoLieWeFlyHighNoLie - 3/20/2007 5:51:09 AM
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Lexusmaniac, Lexus SC is for 17 year-old girls! Yeah and my choices are:

1. Bentley Continental GT (def can't go wrong)
2. Any Aston Martin
3. SL 65 AMG
4. CL 63 AMG
5. Audi R8


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urbansouljahurbansouljah - 3/20/2007 9:46:24 PM
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Jaguar XK/XKR
AM DB9
AM V8 Vantage

In that order.


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germeezy2germeezy2 - 3/21/2007 1:15:25 AM
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It depends on what your are looking for

Bang for buck thats easy Corvette Z06
Budget Supercar coupe new Viper Coupe
Most Drama Coupe Lamborghini LP640
Hedonist Coupe Bentley Continental GT
Sex on wheels coupe Maserati Gran Coupe

And arguably the best coupe on the planet, I will take a CL65 in black please, thank you.


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jmrA480jmrA480 - 3/21/2007 6:29:52 PM
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144,000 euro is crazy , in the US you can get a fully loaded CL550 for about $120k, and a CL600 for about $144,000.

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Matthew1Matthew1 - 3/21/2007 2:42:03 AM
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Maserati Gran Turismo.

the CL is stunning, but the Maser takes it up a notch.


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Matthew1Matthew1 - 3/21/2007 2:43:38 AM
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Oh, and it WILL be reliable!

Maserati knew it had to step up, and it did, the flawless Quattroporte a fine example.


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KostinKostin - 3/21/2007 8:42:42 AM
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in my opinion the M6 is the winner.

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AMGC55AMGC55 - 3/21/2007 12:46:34 PM
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Porsche 911 Carrera has alot of history which is nice... the bentley gt is a nice car with lots of sales...

CL and 650 are great too

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DenaliDenali - 3/21/2007 5:09:24 PM
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here my simple list, "only for big boys doe"

M Benz CL5/600
BMW M6 both for me and my lady

BMW M3/1st gen G35 for speeding late nite wit the fellas

1st gen Lexus SC400:for classic reasons

Aston Martin/Bentley Continental GT/Ferrari 612 Scaglietti for the nite life

or yeah, Jaguar XKR for my pops and BMW 330 for my mistress, yeah i like that


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DenaliDenali - 3/21/2007 5:11:40 PM
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ill give my wife the Porsche 911 Carrera/Quattroporte/SL AMG


DenaliDenali - 3/22/2007 12:59:24 PM
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Matthew1Matthew1 - 3/22/2007 3:27:51 AM
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"The Maserati may be reliable but I would like to see it do over 150.000 km without problems.."

Will you keep the car that long? It depends on priorities I guess. If you have the money to buy a CL, surely a few replaced parts won't be an issue? With the upside being the most gorgeous coupe on earth, and a Ferrari-derived engine to melt the hearts of men!


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M6willreignM6willreign - 3/24/2007 3:46:06 PM
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Uhhh....
Wouldn't u have considered an M6 instead? I would


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