Latest Predictions Show Diesels May Own Up To 20% Of The US Market

Can you Toyota fanboys stop comparing everything to your overrated hybrids? Thanks.

— Willis (View Profile)

Posted on 4/15/2008 10:25:59 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4   

dear clueless michael:

diesels get way better fuel econony than comparable hybrids.

they're more fun to drive because they're based on good handling cars.

and the torque generated by diesels is tremendous compared to hybrids.

not to mention that diesels last for hundreds of thousands of mile, while hybrids will need several of those big toxic batteries in that same time period (if they even last that long).

so remind me which is the better choice for the environment AND the driver?

— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 4/15/2008 10:56:57 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4   

MichaelTaylor- Hybrids had a great month in January, but the still only sold 22,411 units in total from all manufacturers. The total vehicle sold in the US for that month was 1,043,947. This equates to a 2.1% market share for the month.

So even with the accelerated growth percentages shown the actual figures are still minute, with hybrids accounting for 2.168 hybrids for every 1,000 residents in the typical US metro area.

— Agent009 (View Profile)

Posted on 4/15/2008 11:35:35 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

4th place: Lexus LS 600hL

"Overpromises and underdelivers on performance, *fuel economy*, and even luxury."

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0712_high_end_luxury_sedan_comparison/judgement.html

— TurboSpyder (View Profile)

Posted on 4/15/2008 1:32:24 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

MichaelTaylor = EPIC FAIL!

— Bored (View Profile)

Posted on 4/15/2008 10:55:06 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

>Hybrids at least have low emission outputs and can be
>fun to drive given their awesome low end torque and
>reliability.

You just described classic traits of diesel powered cars, you dump prick.

— bazoonga (View Profile)

Posted on 4/17/2008 10:40:31 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

it's about time! we're sometimes a little slow in the US...but eventually we figure things out. but it is funny that 2/3 of the european continent is driving diesels and we're just getting it.

— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 4/15/2008 10:53:58 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

I would flocking hope so, since it came in used 100 million BC...right after the Dinosaurs gets bury in the dirt.

— hatepusss (View Profile)

Posted on 4/15/2008 10:56:27 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 5   

Geez, if these stupid numbers were true then whatever dependency on foreign oil hybrids eliminated, diesels would put right back.

— huu76 (View Profile)

Posted on 4/15/2008 9:46:19 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

huu76 stupid numbers ? if the average diesel engine is 20% more economical than a gasoline engine then the switch from gas to diesel will reduce oil consumption.

— steve27t (View Profile)

Posted on 4/15/2008 10:42:02 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

Diesel is over 4.00 a gal.where I live.No diesel for me!

— autopro (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2008 7:41:31 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

enthusiast,
No, V10 diesels from Germany.

steve,
Hmmm, if diesels are 20% more econonimical than a gasoline engine yet an equal volume of diesel needs 25% more imported oil to make, sounds like a net loss to me.
Now factor in hybrids get the same mileage as diesel but with even less gasoline than the regular cars.

Then throw in the hybrid emissions levels that new age diesels still can't even approach.

I filled up at 1.08L, diesel is $1.26/L. Suckers.

— huu76 (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2008 8:41:24 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

To all the dumb shits thumbing their noses at Germans and Germany keep in mind it was them that invented the automobile and developed it further than anyone else.

The Germans are also the most historically accomplished people on this planet.

Though, admittedly, they have been on a decline for decades.

Between the Germans, Americans and Japanese; it's the Japanese that lag the furthest in historical development of automotive technology. They are standing on the shoulders of giants.

The Japanese are to be admired for their resilient (albeit sick) culture that caught up to the West but they will always be in the shadow of the West when it comes to historical accomplishments.

Hybrid Lexuses notwithstanding.

— bazoonga (View Profile)

Posted on 4/17/2008 10:51:20 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1