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STUD or DUD: The LF-A's Camo Is Totally OFF, Is It More Than A Modified Supra?

Agent00R submitted on 10/21/2009 Official Bell & Ross Timestamp: 9:23:05 AM

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Tag Links: lexus, LF-A, LF-L, toyota racing development

After waiting several years to see the concept transform into a production model, the Lexus LF-A's day has come.

With spotters seeing the car in Florida and the unveiling going down in Tokyo, there was a massive deluge of information coming from all sides late last night.

But I have screened the info so I could provide you with the best and most important information.

What we do know is that the LF-A will provide supercar performance in a very interesting little package. It will certainly be one of the rarer contemporary sports cars on the market and it will also be one of the prettiest sounding.

The details:

4.8L V10
553-hp, 354 lb-ft of tq
six-speed sequential transmission
15.4" carbon ceramic rotors with six-piston calipers up front , 14.2" rear
9,000 RPM redline
Curb weight: 3,263 lbs
0-60 = 3.7 seconds
top speed = 202 mph
largely built from carbon fiber

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STUD or DUD: The LF-A's Camo Is Totally OFF, Is It More Than A Modified Supra?

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User Comments

Looking stunning, only the headlights are not as good as were on the concept but rest is great.
The interior is out of the world. Unbelievable.

Great job Toyota.

JUGNU
— JUGNU (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 9:43:24 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 7

A great vehicle for sure. At $375K Toyota admits it is selling at a loss, but the point of this car is to prove what Lexus is capable of as an overall brand.
— david999 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 10:45:49 AM | | Votes: -2

Exactly. Price seems outrageous, but just look at that engine, 115hp/L, surpassed by 458 Italia only. GT3 have about the same output, but hey, do you see that roll cage?

However judging from the video revealed, maybe due to it's FR nature, it doesn't seem as planted as GT-R or 458. No matter how, the next question is, 7:?
— dlin (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 11:25:46 AM | | Votes: 4

the car can look good has too many air dams on the car especially on the side of the car. I think in a design perspective they could have done a better job I am sure the performance is there but this car gives me a DTM feel when i look at it nothing clean cut.
— B7FAN (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 11:45:51 AM | | Votes: 0

they definitley used the late 90's supra to design this I mean you can see it all in the design....and even though the late 90s supra is over a decade old I like the exterior on that car than this car
— B7FAN (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 11:48:47 AM | | Votes: 0

Toyota isn't selling the car at a loss.

The LFA Future

"Chief Engineer Tanahashi admits to being disappointed that only 500 people will get to sample his baby. That so few LFAs will now be built at such a breathtaking price underscores the difficulty of producing such cars in the present economic climate, where each car must pay for itself without any subsidies from the rest of the product lineup. "

interview with insideline.com
— inspirion7 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 12:52:52 PM | | Votes: -1

All Lexus cars look like modified Toyotas. They are.
— 204E60 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 1:10:09 PM | | Votes: 4

Selling a maximum of 500 units at only $375,000 does not come anywhere near recouping the cost of the LF-A program. This car was designed from the ground up, including a brand new V10 engine.
— david999 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 1:30:37 PM | | Votes: 5

Update: Time is 7:25 - 7:30 according to Inside Line. With 550 hp it can certainly use a little more suspension tunning.
— dlin (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 3:35:29 PM | | Votes: 3

STUD...definitely a STUD!!!

though it may not look like the concept (which most produced cars don't anyways), it's still a bad-a$$ ride. Love the rear, very very aggressive. My only rant is the wheels, i think they could of chose a better design...but hey, that's why there is BBS!!!

the performance numbers are great as well, I've already ehard complaints on how the TQ numbers are low and what not, pure biased crap. No one ever peeped when the R8 or the Gallardo TQ numbers weren't impressive. the LFA will be a great competitor, don't really care if it crushes the competition...so long as it gives them a run for their money

guaranteed that the initial 500 will be sold out.....if no so already

look at that interior...one of the nicest to date
— r15mohd (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 9:48:14 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 5

Impossible to compare this to a Gallardo or R8. It's way over double the price of the R8, and almost double the Gallardo.
— Hantra (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 12:15:48 PM | | Votes: 5

You forget one thing. The LF-A costs more than twice as much as the R8. For the price the the LF-A's numbers are weak. There's no way around it.
— LexSucks (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 6:48:41 PM | | Votes: 3

Looks like an updated supra! Not a bad thing but not what I would expect for a car with a luxury moniker. The interior is certainly interesting but the instrument cluster surround reminds me of some the the nissans from the 80s.
— kpaxx (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 9:55:00 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -7

Wrong. You can certainly see SC in the front end, but overall profile is more 300ZX than Supra!
— dlin (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 11:27:47 AM | | Votes: -4

Very attractive from all angles but the front in my opinion. The headlights and intakes just look off to me. Also, I would be damned if I spent as much as they are asking for an LF-A and got those wheels.
— JMB1013 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 10:01:16 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

The engine specs are awesome! 4.8 liter V10, 552hp = 115hp per liter. Definitely better numbers then any German v10. nice job lexus.
— bmwMotorsport (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 10:05:30 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

The engine is nice but they should've added 0.2L of displacement to make it 5.0L. It sounds a lot better...or even 6.0L 600hp+. It wouldn't have costed much for them.
— SHOWTIME (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 10:22:33 AM | | Votes: 0

You do realize this is a high rev engine that, with other factors like the low weight and short gearing, will
pull away from anything out there above the 100mph mark.
— david999 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 11:26:07 AM | | Votes: -1

That 0.2L will be added later in next generation.
— dlin (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 11:28:43 AM | | Votes: 0

Low weight won't matter much above 100mph...and how short can the gearing be if it's only a 6-speed (single clutch) geared to go 202mph?

It will probably run something similar to LP560-4 at most but won't touch the 458 Italia. Don't see how I would pay almost double for it.

Sorry, 600hp+ would've been more convincing.

— SHOWTIME (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 12:34:17 PM | | Votes: 2

Your statements, Showtime, tell me you know little about true performance if you believe what you are saying.
Weight and a high rev engine, not only hp or torque
are a HUGE factor when looking at how a vehicle will perform.
— david999 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 12:52:13 PM | | Votes: 0

Maybe I should be a little more clear with you.

Of course low weight matters and high revs perform better at higher speeds along with many other factors...but it's not like this is a 2800lb/12,000 RPM car to make an incredible difference over its competitors like you're saying. Beating anything else out there? Yea Okaaaaaaaaay!

The 458 Italia revs to 9k as well and even weighs 200lbs less than the LFA AND has an extra gear and clutch. What do you have to say about that? The LFA is still going to beat it just beacuse you like it so much? Stop getting your emotions involved with facts. You're fooling yourself with it.

Besides, I'm not trying to discredit the LFA. I think it's a great looking car and I actually like the side view more than the 458. All I said was they should've made a bigger engine since they've gone all out with everything else suppossidly.

BTW, they are only going to make 500 because they must know they are not going to sell more than that since there is Ferrari and Lambo with similar performance and half the price.
— SHOWTIME (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 2:27:49 PM | | Votes: 0

Showtime,
Lexus will also be introducing an LFA-R version to address the issue of lower weight and more power that everybody seems to be interested in. The new Ferrari 458 seems like it will be a great car and I am looking forward to its release.
— david999 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 9:37:58 PM | | Votes: 1

The Vett has more HP at $70,000. and they are almost identical in performance numbers.
— truckman (View Profile)

Posted on 10/23/2009 4:46:32 AM | | Votes: 0

STUD!
— tryme (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 10:06:37 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 6

Looks fine, BUT they want $400,000 for it and acording to Car magazine the tranny is slow and cumbersome. For that kind of coin I want to out accelerate a GT-R. I would rather just have a Viper and shift my own gears.
— rigid (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 10:06:48 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -3

enjoy your $80k Viper with the $20k Charger interior!
— r15mohd (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 10:19:11 AM | | Votes: 6

I would do the ZR1 and the Bentley Continental Flying Spur.
— golfer38 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 10:21:57 AM | | Votes: 1

They should have twin-clutch. Period.
— dlin (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 11:34:44 AM | | Votes: 5

Will have to wait to see it in person and get some more reviews, but I'm leaning towards dud.

Almost a decade in development for this? I'm not a fan of the origami like styling. Low curb weight is good to see, but I feel like the 6-speed sequential gearbox is already dated since most performance cars are going with 7-speeds (Ferrari, Porsche, AMG, etc.).

For $400k, that is reaching into 599 Ferrari territory. Or a 430 Scuderia or the new 458 for less money. Or an Aston DBS. The alternatives are far more appealing to me.
— HSCenterconsole (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 10:17:52 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

I'm not sure yet. I do think it would look better with a fixed wing or somekind of integrated spoiler.
— golfer38 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 10:19:41 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

I'm a big lexus fan, and I'm really disappointed by this. The headlights aren't aggressive enough and some parts look awkward.

For almost half a million, this car should look awesome! Get back to the drawing board Lexus! This looks like an 80k-100k car (only talking about looks, not performance).
— shui3000 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 10:31:30 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

I agree headlight could be more aggresive, but do you know how much money/time is spent on that engine alone? Only Ferrari can beat it. This car is about PERFORMANCE, and it certainly looks way better than those of Chris Bangle to the least.
— dlin (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 11:32:54 AM | | Votes: 1

I agree with that statement on looks. The car should be a stormer, but look wise its to close to the GT-R than Ferrari.
— inspirion7 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 1:30:17 PM | | Votes: 2

Nothing looks like Ferrari except same mid-engined Lambo.
Besides they don't want it to look like Ferrari.
— dlin (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 3:36:42 PM | | Votes: 2

Stud, and I hope see some exterior design elements trickle down to other future Lexus models.
— LuxuryFan (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 10:33:26 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

Seriously, $400k? Why? But other than that it looks good. But at that price there are a LOT of other awesome alternatives to choose from.
— PlanB (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 10:41:55 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

that's exactly whta i thought when I saw all the vents and the front bumper, a riced out supra. I like the look of the original concept look much more eloquent, this one looks like it has too many things going on.
— recca7 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 10:53:23 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

There are far far far too many better vehicles out there that i would spend my $400k on.

— Timzilla (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 11:06:49 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

wOw...What a price tag.....
— shiftless (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 11:18:19 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 6

I couldn't choose this Lexus over a Ferrari or Lamborghini.

There is no way, in fact.

I would consider the GS over the current 5-Series, but I would get the 3-Series over the IS.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 11:28:47 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

I've been looking at the second profile photo.

The front end from the side is a mess and that scoop on the rear side window is a mess.

It's not sexy like a Ferrari.

It's got gameboy written all over it.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 11:31:19 AM | | Votes: -1

Did EL34 just say he'd CONSIDER a Lexus over a BMW?

WTF?
— M35MT (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 12:03:53 PM | | Votes: 7

The reason the back end is so high is because Lexus wanted the upper scoop that covers the side window.

The lower scoop is so large I wonder why they needed the upper scoop other than someone thought it looked cool???

The front and rear shots are not the best in class b a huge amount.

For that kind of money $375K there are so many other cars I would go for.

The angle of the large side scoop looks similar to lines on the RX 350.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 12:07:17 PM | | Votes: -2

BTW, is that color called Starfire Pearl?
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 12:08:12 PM | | Votes: 0

I'd have to agree with EL34 this time, the LF-A in white is just a styling mess from the front. There's too much overhang and has too much aftermarket look to the design(not that aftermarket is bad since many are inpsired by racing cars and super hi-po vehicles, but Lexus should do their own). So it's a styling DUD to me.

White makes the car look flat and bloated, all the cool subtle curves are hidden and the intake holes scream out cheap after market kit. The long over hang makes the car looked high like a 4X4, it needs a drop to get that exotic look. Somebody put up picts of the car in a darker color, maybe it might be better.
— Badgewhore (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 1:22:40 PM | | Votes: 2

Thank you Badgewhore.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 1:54:54 PM | | Votes: 2

Stud. Interior is where it shines design-wise, looks very comfortable and engaging. Happy to see the speedometer made it from the concept. Exterior is kinda what I expected to see, it works, because it doesnt look like anything else.

I do NOT think the price is an issue - why? Limited to 500 units, no one on this site should care how much it costs, because they won't buy one anyway. This car will be purchased by super-rich car collectors only. Kinda like the Veritas, would you pay all that money for that car over a Ferrari? I wouldn't either.
— M35MT (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 12:02:32 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

Why some of you are caring too much about price. When cars cross some price-points (Here in UAE it is 1 million Dirhams which is around USD 260K) then it doesn't matter how high it goes. The potential customers look at exclusivity, design, performance, technology, luxury...etc more than price.

I think LF-A should beat GT2, 599, 458 Italia, Mclaren MP4-12C...etc at everything, then there shouldn't be even 1% problem for Toyota finding buyers for it. And it is looking very promising. Can't wait for numbers.

JUGNU
— JUGNU (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 12:08:31 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

I don't care about the price and I'm sure the LF-A is worth $375k, but the car is not pleasing to look at from any angle.

In fact, there are many watches that cost more than this car like the Swiss Made Confrérie Horlogère La Clef du Temps Tourbillon .
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 12:25:32 PM | | Votes: -2

JUGNU there are exclusive buyers but they will not just purchase anything north of $100K just because. You are purchasing the name. Look how long it took to sell most of Bugatti's 16.4 (yeah, yeah at a cool $1.5 mil it would get Bill Gates to pause) but almost half a mil for a new car is alot. I do understand Lexus wants each car to pay for itself because Toyota don't need to have such a car imagery to be absorbed into the product lines like other manufactures. IF the LF-A can beat everyone, and from the looks it should, then it still isn't a Ferrari or a Lambo. Nothing but a name, no racing heritage, wins nothing. Like others, it still need to prove itself on the world stage like the GT-R did (that is another story, but it got out there and changed the entry level supercar game and had Porsche standing by scratching their collective heads)

This is a well conceived car with so much riding on it. If I were Lexus, I would have bit the bullet and priced it in the range of its competitors. It has all the tech available, extremely unique interior that fits the car beautifully. Toyota needs this car just as bad as the FT-86. This decision will bring a completely different customer to Toyota because it will be seen as not just an appliance building company, there is passion and excitement and the LFA proves it.
— inspirion7 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 12:47:42 PM | | Votes: 2

The statement:

"In fact, there are many watches that cost more than this car like the Swiss Made Confrérie Horlogère La Clef du Temps Tourbillon."

Doesn't really support your argument.
— LuxuryFan (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 2:43:27 PM | | Votes: 2

Okay, I officially like it (I know hard to believe).

They should have marketed the top speed as "limited to 201 MPH though.. Implies it would then go significantly faster.
— Agent009 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 12:08:34 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

why...so you could write an article on how they mislead us by doing so?
— M35MT (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 12:21:14 PM | | Votes: 8

They are marketing it as "limited to...." BTW
— Agent00R (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 1:10:50 PM | | Votes: 2

They are marketing it as "limited to...." BTW
— Agent00R (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 1:10:51 PM | | Votes: -3

design, meh I can't say stud or dud. Performance... hmmm I dunno considering you have to rev the balls off of it to get anywhere... 354ft-lbs in a 3263lb car really isn't that special.
— Joe_Limon (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 12:18:44 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -5

I have to laugh at some of the comments here about "there are other cars out there that I would take like a ZR1"
The reason Lexus took there time designing this car was to blow away every other supercar exotic with its
TECHNOLOGY. Nothing out there compares with the LF-A
in terms of the quality of the interior, or likely its durability as compared to any other exclusive supercar.
— david999 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 12:23:28 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

I have to laugh at David999 for commenting on the interior quality of a car he's never even seen before in his life.

Much less the competitors of the LF-A.
— Willis (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 12:55:46 PM | | Votes: -2

Willis,
I have seen the LF-A concepts in person, and have read the latest reviews of the pre-production model to draw my own conclusion of what the car will be like.
— david999 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 1:22:40 PM | | Votes: 2

Here's a more eye-opening shot of the cabin for you.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c342/hemi666/LF-A13.jpg

Now correct me if I am wrong but weren't you one of those Lexus lovers who criticized the Murcielago, SLS and god knows what other exotics out there for having "cheap interiors"? And wasn't your definition of a cheap interior one with lots of "black plastic"?
— Willis (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 1:31:11 PM | | Votes: -4

Here is a quote from Autocar.UK who actually drove the car and reviewed it:

"Similarly the interior is incredibly well finished, with a mixture of leather, carbon, aluminium and a super high tech TFT screen rev-counter. The best detail though are the pedals which simply exquisite – each one a single piece of forged aluminium. So the typical Lexus virtues of quality and refinement are very much intact in even this, its most extreme model"
You must have read this Willis, since you posted more useless comments in the thread where the article is posted here on Autospies.
— david999 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 2:05:09 PM | | Votes: 2

The same comments about interior quality also given to the Lamborghini etc. Amazing how the Lexus leads the pack...

— Willis (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 2:51:49 PM | | Votes: -7

i'm pretty sure the "black plastic" is black leather...
— lexusrox123 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/24/2009 4:40:18 PM | | Votes: 1

WOW!

I'm not too crazy about the front of the car BUT LOOK AT THE REST OF IT! The interior is a masterpiece, I'm in love with the side perspective, and the rear is just bad ass. Well done Lexus. Well done.

BTW, I'm a chronic Lexus hater so for me to give this car a complement... it says something.
— GreenPlease (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 12:24:05 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 6

Show me the numbers...for now I still with Germans and Italians sport cars.
— Yonder7 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 12:24:42 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

A mean real numbers, not manufacturer numbers or projected numbers...the car looks good but the design do not touch my heart as it happens with the 458 or the Gallardo.........
— Yonder7 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 12:26:45 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

I love the doors, the rear in the profile shots look somewhat like a Celica. The original headlights blow these out of the water, it's a shame they were changed. Also, $400k is pure insanity. I'm a big fan of Lexus (own 2), but you can get a Tesla Roadster Sport with the same acceleration, equivalent handling, and a customized leather interior for a third of the price.
— SanJoseDriver (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 12:29:24 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

You could get that kind of acceleration from a $15k motorcyle...but no one is saying you could buy that.
— 800over (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 12:46:06 PM | | Votes: 5

Cool.

Now make a new SC with some carryover features from this thing.
— answer (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 12:40:04 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 6

I'm confused. The price for admission is it $350,000 or $500,000?
— inspirion7 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 1:21:09 PM | | Votes: -1

$375,000
— david999 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 1:23:30 PM | | Votes: 2

Reason for my questioning the price, leftlane news has the car at £336,000 ($557,000), insideline "a cool $534,000, some $100,000 more than an Aston Martin DBS,"
— inspirion7 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 1:35:38 PM | | Votes: 0

Call 1-866-532-4794 as per Lexus.com and they will tell you it starts at $375,000US.
— david999 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 2:12:13 PM | | Votes: 1

I agree that it is totally a Stud, but the GT-R will still reign over it!! Good job though Toyota.
— PerformanceGuy (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 1:01:00 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2

I am sorry, but it is a pain to look at.
— ErichHartmann (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 1:02:48 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

i like most of the styling, the scoops are a bit much. a front engined car with radiators in the rear is certainly unconventional; ive gotta give them points for that.

but for my money, i'll get a mercedes sls gullwing.
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 1:24:14 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

Toyota can not make a good looking car. And I buy Toyota's, not for looks though. But mechanically, it sounds great. Why buy this car when you can buy an Italian or something that looks so much better and performs well, and maintains its value???
— tkindred (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 1:31:46 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

The car overall looks very busy which is not as good as the concept. But it's not bad at all and the performance numbers are stunning.
— M53R (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 1:41:51 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Is it just me or did David969 finally figure out David999's password?
— Joe_Limon (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 3:11:52 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Lexus LF-A:
Performanace - Stud
Styling - Dud

Ferrari California:
Performanace - Stud
Styling - Stud
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 3:27:30 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

That steering wheel would get old real fast.

;-/
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 3:29:19 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2

Reminds me of the wheel from the 1980's Knight Rider.
— HSCenterconsole (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 3:46:42 PM | | Votes: -2

I like it because it's so unique.

It does not carry any styling cues from currently made supercars but speaks its own design language. Wide, very aggressive and very XXI century.

To be honest, I'm not a fan of supercars. (Plug-in) hybrids are what interests me but it does not stop me from being impressed by this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDsXsdNgov0

Price? It's not a car for sale, more a halo project to promote the brand, just like, for instance, the Bugatti Veyron. Its cost will be recouped in sales of Lexus ordinary vehicles.
— downtoearth (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 3:47:14 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

great video.

if your impressed by that, check this out, though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrPosTPSXxw
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 5:11:44 PM | | Votes: 0

1995, that is disgusting.
— lexusrox123 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/24/2009 4:53:36 PM | | Votes: 1

Nice but boring. Put it next to a Ferrari and no one will notice it.
— thstone (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 4:20:13 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

WOW! Alot of comments. Must be a hit.
— truthpursuit (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 4:44:37 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

Is there any philanthropists out there that want to buy an artist a car? lol, For the first time Lexus looks incredible and performance numbers to match, I would love to know how fast this car stops, and is this car an all wheel drive?
— truckman (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 4:54:09 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

this is a Stud, but I was expecting more than this on design. but, shocked by interior design and odo meter too, they looks great too... it shoudn't any troble to seel 50 of them
— pchera01 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 5:42:27 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

500 of them, error can't edit
— pchera01 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 5:42:57 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Nice car, to bad for Lexus the Ferrari 458 Itaila was here first.
— theoptimisticpessimist (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 6:00:11 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2

Sure the Ferrari was here first, but the Ferrari spends every other weekend in the repair shop, although this car is way overpriced, does this beat the Vett?
— truckman (View Profile)

Posted on 10/22/2009 5:07:10 AM | | Votes: -1

Where does Lexus come off charging $375K for the thing? Am I the only one who sees this car as being massively overpriced?
— LexSucks (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 6:36:31 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

Nop, you are not the only one. I prefer to buy a 911TT and an R8V10 and any of those is up to the performance of this Lexus....but a lot cheaper.. and it is very likely that I will save some money for other stuff...and If you ask me, R8 looks more atractive.....for the price it should be as good as the LP640 or a Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano...and till I see the test and the compares...I'll wait to give my final thoughs about that car.
— Yonder7 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 6:51:21 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

You know for the price of this Lexus you could get an Audi R8 V10 and a Mercedes S-Klasse AMG S65.

I do like the remote touch in the LF-A. I have the same thing in my new 2010 Lexus RX 350.

:-D
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 7:10:47 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

And you can get a GT-R for half the price of the R8 or the S65, so what's your point? The Lexus is in a diffrent class alltogether, and no amount of anti-Lexus bashing by the Euro fanboys will change that. I am sure a lot of you are disappointed they are making the car because it will open up the eyes of the buying public the way the first LS did.
— david999 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 9:18:00 PM | | Votes: 0

Are you kidding?

An Audi R8 V10 or a Nissan GTR???

I would get the Audi ;-)
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 9:31:17 PM | | Votes: -1

That my friend is a no brainer. Now, a LFA over a R8? Of course, the R8 V10 5.2 FSI Quattro. Same performance, but with the Quattro system (so its heavier) and still have like performance numbers at half the price (about $170,000 Euro conversion rate) and better looks, win, win. Again a no brainer.
— inspirion7 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/22/2009 12:28:53 PM | | Votes: -2

The R8 wouldn't be considered an "exotic" the same way as the Lexus, ie, rare or extraordinary.
— david999 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/22/2009 1:09:18 PM | | Votes: 1

Dude, who are you kidding? Audi produces fewer V10 models than Ferrari, and they are exotics. So, just because Toyota decides to limit their car to 500 doesn't make it more exotic. Rarer, yes exotic, nope.
— inspirion7 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/22/2009 4:15:17 PM | | Votes: -1

I beg to disagree.
— david999 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/22/2009 9:08:39 PM | | Votes: 1

Beg on, its your choice.
— inspirion7 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/24/2009 10:01:46 PM | | Votes: 1

Wowwwwwwwwwwww!!!! 91 Comments on a car that should have came out six billion years ago.

I mean, I think the look is fine for a Toyota, but damm ya'll. It still has to be tested against the Merc Stuff. Though I think as this is Lexus' first attempt at a supercar, it might come up even or barely short of, lets say an SLK.

This is Lexus' Genesis, as in the "Halo" Car that will propel them from a 2nd Tier Luxury Maker to a 1st Tier player. Next thing you know they will have an AMG-esque division.
— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 7:43:36 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -7

the lf-a will short of an slk mercedes? what kind of crack are you smoking?
— GeorgeWJoke (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 8:12:56 PM | | Votes: 5

david999: I recommend you to wait till you see the numbers...
HyundaiSmoke: I like Mercedes But SLK for that..no way..face it: SLR or SL65 BS or CLK Black Series....may be....
— Yonder7 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 9:28:29 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

I knew they'll reuin the front end, a horrible decission by Lexus on changing the front end that was on the red concept.
— Designer1 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 10:04:06 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

The red concept shouldve been the production, from an exterior design standpoint. i think it'd look really awesome in black, btw.
— lexusrox123 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/24/2009 4:33:05 PM | | Votes: 1

Absolute Stud. Wish i could afford one.
— darzav (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 10:42:30 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

Just when Hyundai thought copying a year or two later was good enough, Toyota shows them why Hyundai has to compete on price.

Should've kept the original headlights though. Odd that the Prius gets them but not the LF-A.
— huu76 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2009 11:27:32 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

Wow, this thing is hideous. Seriously, not an attractive angle on it at all. WAYYYYY overstyled and trying too hard to be noticed. And that curly-que thing on the side...WTH??? Not to mention it is just a Toyota Celica with a fancy, tacky tuxedo on. And that interior is a snoozer. It looks completely cramped and not a fun place to be at all.
— senorgato (View Profile)

Posted on 10/22/2009 12:00:28 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

Its a good thing Toyota wasn't banking on you buying one.
— huu76 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/22/2009 12:04:58 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

Seriously awesome car. Not the sexiest, nor the most aggressive, neither is it the most beautiful, but for some reason i really like this car. Very original, a very much japanese design, and certainly reminds me of the supra, no shadow of doubt about it. I am certain Lexus deliberately moved away from the L finesse shape of the concept to produce a super car that is filled with emotion of the glorious past from the supra days. This car looks like a supercar made from the motif of a pure bred street right. Right I said it, it looks like a metamorphosis of the original street racer the Supra and that is why so many scoops, vents, creases, not plain sexy, but awkward aggressive and beautiful, and i love it to bits. That engine is exactly what a car engine should be, i feel like crying, when i hear the mellowing high pitched super revving engine roar like the blitzkreiging sirens. What a sound, and what an engine, the car is worth just for that engine. But to mushy my appetite i can also look at that unbelievable interior, really the best interior in a car that i have ever seen, better that veyron, better than 458 italia, better than anything you can name(well from the looks that is). And remember that interview by the dutch journalist, he said this was as good a car as the zondas and the ferraris that he usually drove for testing, so even though i agree that the figures are not as impressive for a 370,000 dollar car, the car must feel very ultra awesome to drive, otherwise surely a company would not dare to hike the price that high!! or would they?
— farabira1 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/22/2009 12:41:09 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

Man shut up, huu.
— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)

Posted on 10/22/2009 12:49:56 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -4

Stud!! Now, I don't like the headlights as much as the concept, and that leading edge on the front looks odd and so do the front intakes. The rear likes could look more " jeweled", to befit the Lexus name. The interior is off the chain! Now, white is the wrong color for this, they should have showed it in blue to make the coonection with the IS-F, plus the blue would have had a standout and shiny effect. All in all a good car.

Car and driver compared this car to the 599 GTB, and I agree. Both are front mounted Rwd hyper GTs, this is not comparable to the 458, which is mid engine car . So the front mounted GTs in it's class are 599 and the DBS, you can add thr ZR1 in there if you chose as well as the SL black series. Car and Driver also stated that they were told that they will be selling at a loss. They also said that the LFA is more tactil than the GT-R, so out goes that argument that someone said it was not as planted as the GT-R.
— Inline6 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/22/2009 1:09:29 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

Well, This might be a nice looking car with super performance, but Doesnt mean that I still wont be ah prey juh dist (Prejudiced) against Lexus.
— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)

Posted on 10/22/2009 1:57:49 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -4

It's a supercar with a style all its own. May look like a Supra to some, but Lexus and Toyota ARE related and I see no reason why anyone should stick up their nose for that fact. Toyota has a corporate heritage. Doesn't matter if you don't like it, someone will.
— Anthony (View Profile)

Posted on 10/22/2009 5:40:03 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

ugly.
— xj13 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/22/2009 7:59:34 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2

HyundaiSmoke is straight hating!!!! You know Hyundai can't compete with the Lexus brand , any attempts were good, but this car shows that Hyundai can't compete at this time. Because right now, no one would even pay 70-100k for a Hyundai. All this talk about how the minor Toyotas and Lexus were, was a straight from you. You can't even give the car props.

Jealousy is a female trait, so pull your skirt down.
— Inline6 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/22/2009 9:31:35 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

They have no economies of scale and the price is so high to pay off development costs, not just buying the product. They should make about 1500 instead of 500 to recoup loss at about 275k-300K to make it more competitive with the Ferrari F-430 and Ferrari 548 Italia since it's specs are more in line with those cars.

The problem is their use of conventional Carbon Fiber drove up costs more because they are not as innovative as McLaren with their cheaper to produce tub that only takes 4 hours in the McLaren MP4-12C.

"I ONLY CARE ABOUT THE FERRARI'S"
— pennfootball (View Profile)

Posted on 10/22/2009 10:29:56 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

Point taken. Toyota took so long in developing this car and in some cases, started over. This is why the project has been off and on so long and driving cost. The smart thing would have been to consult with those in the supercar arena (private consulting is common within the industry) and save time and money. It seem like they tried to re-invent the wheel and it still came out round.
— inspirion7 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/22/2009 12:39:26 PM | | Votes: 3

STUD!!!
— 7msynthetic (View Profile)

Posted on 10/22/2009 3:19:22 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Inline, Ive given the car props. It is one nice piece of machinery, I respect that. Its not jealousy, its war.

A war between our brands that will last a long time.
— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)

Posted on 10/22/2009 4:25:27 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

If it was a Hyundai Product others liked but still hated the brand they would hae pretty much said the same thing I said.

Im definately not car hating, Im brand hating.
— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)

Posted on 10/22/2009 4:27:57 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -3

If it was a Hyundai, it'd have 0% financing already and it'd probably have a knock-off Matilda the cow emblem to join the Bentley G and RollsRoyce Seagull.
— huu76 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/22/2009 11:43:30 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

This car looks great, but way over priced, the Vett is only $70,000. compared to over half a million, The vett will tie or beat this at Nurmberg, Lex mad a mistake by making only 500 of them, with metal at 30ish $ a ton they should have mass produced this car and competed with the Vett, on the other hand If you are American that may be a good thing with your economy being where it is.For all you de boosters, I do like this car, its just too much $$ for what you get compared to the vett.
— truckman (View Profile)

Posted on 10/23/2009 4:54:47 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

I can stay at the Days Inn for $60 or the Plaza for $250. Both have beds and both have bathrooms. Are you saying everyone should stay at the Vett motor Inn?
— 800over (View Profile)

Posted on 10/23/2009 4:03:13 PM | | Votes: 1

Why isnt it Price Competitive with the R8. The Lex should have undercut the R8. The R8 is $114K, the Lex should have been $105K.
— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)

Posted on 10/23/2009 8:34:10 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

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