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Top Gear Gets Attacked by Rednecks

nox327 submitted on 2/12/2007 Official Bell & Ross Timestamp: 4:43:10 PM

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Top Gear is known for being a show to entertain car enthusiast whichever way possible.

In this episode, they go a little too far when they visit the south. The team decided to travel from Miami to New Orleans in beat up cars that they purchased for grand a pop. To make the cars a little more interesting, they spray painted them with some phrases the people down there don’t particularly like (e.g. “NASCAR Sucks” and “Hillary for President”). You should probably just watch the video and see what happens.

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Actually I think it was pretty good and it also show why African Americans will never get an opology for all the unjustices that were done to them.

My gush! they are really ignorant.
— silverarrow2 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/13/2007 12:47:33 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2

Ignorants.
— silverarrow2 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/13/2007 12:47:55 AM | | Votes: 0

This was a stupid move and they realize it now.

Not surprisingly, when one tries to engage the link now, they will only see...

"This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by British Broadcasting Corporation."

Well, that's one way of pulling the plug of inflammation quickly.
— Allosaur (View Profile)

Posted on 2/15/2007 7:57:07 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

That was funny doggone it.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 5:29:56 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

Dood!

Did you hear about the Yale choir getting attacked and beatend up in Liberal San Francisco on New Years Eve at a private party by a bunch of Liberal idiots that crashed the party because they sung the Star Spangled Banner?
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 5:43:37 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

I find this horrific. These people are so stupid, if they see something that offends them, they throw stuff at it. It's put me off going to the US. I know that sounds dramatic, but this video also shows the state of New Orleans...like a third world country. Broken houses, cars, trees, roads, everywhere. Horrible, that the most powerful country in the world is rotting to the core and letting its citizens live in squalor.
I really don't understand how the government sleeps at night, knowing its citizens are as ignorant as these people and that they are letting New Orleans turn into a completely broken city.
— Rupert (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 5:49:06 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -4

American Cars are rubbish. They are big , thirsty and probably worth more after u melt it into cast iron.
— james_may (View Profile)

Posted on 2/14/2007 11:14:39 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2

What are some good British cars? Even Clarkson says British cars are rubbish. Last I checked, the only British owned car company is Morgan. wow
— ElSparquito (View Profile)

Posted on 2/15/2007 9:58:56 AM | | Votes: 2

Attacking me dosen't make your country's cars become non rubbish.
— james_may (View Profile)

Posted on 2/15/2007 11:11:07 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

Actually, Z06, one of the US's top performers, does not even pay a gas-guzzler's tax as its efficiency tops all the "thirsty" Euro hogs.
— Allosaur (View Profile)

Posted on 2/15/2007 7:14:38 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Did you know in the South East of America there are a lot of religious African Americans that are 100% against abortion and gay marriage and the same out here in California with Hispanics.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 5:51:57 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -5

Did you know that my car is silver? Wow! I can say stupid irrelevant things too! I can be just like EL34!
Did you know that it's cold in Sweden right now?
Did you know they make cheese in France?
Did you know dinosaurs were killed by a meteorite?

Did you know the OC is really cool woooooo and so are real estate agents woooooo and I am a complete ass?
Wooooo it doesn't matter I'm EL34!
— Rupert (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 5:58:46 PM | | Votes: 3

Rupe, I'm right.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 6:00:43 PM | | Votes: -6

American's are dumb..
— theman (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 5:59:53 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -6

Maybe the Top Gear scrum can go to East LA and pull a similar stunt. They could paint on the side of their cars for all illegal aliens to pack their bags and to get the hell out and to go back to where they came from and paint space aliens all over the car?

What do you think would happen to them?
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 6:03:25 PM | | Votes: -3

Check your grammar before you try to judge intelligence of others.
— ElSparquito (View Profile)

Posted on 2/15/2007 10:04:00 AM | | Votes: 3

There's more to it. Yes those people were pissed off about seeing those things written on the cars, but I believe that woman was more angry at the fact that May, Clarkson, and Hammond were making fun of them. Yet the south is very conservative and the rest of America does make fun of the rednecks.
— kart1 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 6:03:51 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

People are going to get mad, and some will get more mad than others of course. Not everyone in Alabama attacked them.
— kart1 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 6:05:07 PM | | Votes: 4

No, I think she had a problem with them because they look gay.
— silverarrow2 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/13/2007 12:51:23 AM | | Votes: 2

Another indication you are in hickland - everybody drives either a GM or a Ford.
— flozel1 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 6:04:10 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

no doubt.

I've been there and I didn't have a good time.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 6:05:44 PM | | Votes: -2

One of the more interesting speeches I have heard by a Democrat was when both Atomic Bombs had been dropped on Japan and a news reporter asked President Truman if he had any regrets about killing so many people and Truman said, "Hell no, I would have killed every bleep bleep bleep in Japan if it meant saving the life of one American".
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 6:15:11 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -5

Have you read what the Czech President said, Calls Man-Made Global Warming a Myth, Questions Al Gores sanity.

So do I.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 6:38:38 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

zaza,

? Remember all the fuss over Y2K?

? How about Killer Bees, West Nile Virus and the Mad Cow disease?

? What happened with 2005’s “serious” lack of vaccines for one of the “worst” flu seasons?

? Where did SARS and the Bird Flu. . . fly to?
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 8:07:56 PM | | Votes: 1

What does Y2K have to do with Global Warming/

They're both myths.

Just like recycling newpapers, plastic, glass and whatnot.

Recyling that stuff does not save trees and it cost a fortune to do.

The only thing worth recycling is aluminum cans.

There's a program and people need to get with it!
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 8:34:31 PM | | Votes: -2

newtons 4th law:

the bigger the truck, the bigger the idiot.

:)
— bthuss (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 6:11:20 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

Maybe Jeremy and the bunch and go to South Central Los Angeles and paint on the car we hate the bloods and the crips and drive into their hoods around 10 o'clock on a saturday night??

It would be funny to watch.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 6:20:41 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -4

holy crap!
— 5MTenthus (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 6:22:24 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 5

A couple of weeks ago a few thousand Democrats went to Wshington DC to protest the war with Jane Fonda and Cindy Sheehan, a few soldiers showed up in dress uniform and they were called every name in the book and they had to wipe saliva off their uniforms after the protesters spat on them.

Have a great day,

EL34
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 6:34:42 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

I've seen the video.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 8:08:40 PM | | Votes: 3

zaza, 144 inches of snow in 7 days in New York.

Nothing new to them, but more snow than they've had in a long time.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 8:10:43 PM | | Votes: 3

zaza, this planet has had global warming problems in many previous centuries and it's survived.

Don't worry about it and put that sign down.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 8:36:42 PM | | Votes: 3

zaza, did you see that photo of a couple of polar bears on an iceberg with a caption of, "Polar Bears are stuck on iceberg because of global warming"

Guess what?...there's always been icebergs and polar bears can swim.

There's your lesson for the day.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 10:35:45 PM | | Votes: 4

Very well put my friend.
— silverarrow2 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/14/2007 12:48:35 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

Once I made a hat with a lobster and a stick.
— answer (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 7:13:19 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

LoL, what a bunch of wimps... These guys should really come to NY, I would love to have a few beers with them...
— no1listensanyway (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 7:31:53 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

I would like to see Jeremy and crew go to North Horea and paint up a car that says, Kim Jung-Il you've been murdering dictator long enough.

Go to Cooba and do the same about Dictator Fidel Castro, they could paint on the car - Fidel, youve been dictator for 50 years, why don't you step down and allow another citizen other than your family to run the island?

But, they won't do it!
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 7:35:26 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

Saddam declined to allow the inspectors back in under the UN rules thus violating many resolutions.

Don't you get it?...Saddam was the criminal that invaded Kuwait and after the war he should have been hung, but he was put on parole and after he broke the rules of parole time and time again it was time to dismantle the satanic bastard and that's what happened.

You can put that in your pipe and smoke it!
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 7:52:29 PM | | Votes: 3

zaza, I could give you a list a mile long of countries that did trade with Satanic Saddam and Iraq.

Program, look into it.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 8:40:25 PM | | Votes: 4

El34, Why are you not over there if you believe that much in the war which is really an invasion if you ask me?
— silverarrow2 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/14/2007 12:52:24 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2

So where does that put Israel? Since it's violated easily over a dozen (if not more) UN resolutions, is a facist, apartheid nation...

Mmmmmmmmm...oh yea...since they have their thumbs up your ass, whatever they do smells like rose...

Makes sense.
— nozferatu (View Profile)

Posted on 2/14/2007 1:47:34 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2

Wow. Is this an automotive site? Do we care what opinion you have of other countries?

What did you people expect to happen? Lets provoke this dog until he bites our face off, then blame him for it.

Come on-----post your thoughts on vehicles, not your "knowledge" of world politics.
— dbohno (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 7:41:26 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 6

Will, isn't that a line by one of those guys from the movie Deliverance?

You know, the pig squealin' guys.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 8:12:37 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

I thought that was a stupid idea when they were doing it..... they thought it was a stupid idea too. That's why I don't live there!
— Threepoint1415926 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 8:44:02 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Ahh the south. Sad thing is I bet that fat woman who came out and harrassed the Top Gear guys was probably married to 2 of the rednecks in the pickup and was probably the mom of another 2 and was the sister of 1 of the guys she married and one of her kids.
— neutral (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 8:47:26 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Back to the topic, it is sadly a reality that people like the ones you saw on the video exists and every country has them. Like it or not. The stunt top gear pulled could have hurt them bad. Its just plain stupidity for entertainment.
— woood (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 8:50:19 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

"this is a hick town, I'm 'onna call da boys!"......People like that fat cow are the reason why you should have to apply to have kids. Hopefully with advances in genetic engineering we can eliminate these embarrassments to America.
— neutral (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 8:50:33 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

Sometimes EL34 makes tangible remarks (when he's actually making posts about cars). Whenever he talks politics, he just makes me laugh. Sometimes I wonder if he is in some way related to members of the Bush Administration. That would explain his narrowminded view of the world that only a man with an IQ of 86 could have.
— neutral (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 10:18:39 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

Bush had better grades at Yale University than Kerry.

Both were in Skull and Bones.

Get used to it.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 10:33:08 PM | | Votes: 3

Once again, EL34 bringing up something completely unrelated. Maybe he hasn't taken his ritalin today.
— neutral (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2007 11:18:54 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2

What kind of car do you drive,a Prius?

Because if youre an enviro you can't be into Lambo's and Ferrari's.

lol
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/13/2007 12:55:12 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

junior n00b, there are so many meteorologists that say Global Warming is full of beans.

You need to watch some Penn and Teller Google Videos to learn the ways of the world.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/13/2007 1:01:04 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

Watch this 3 minute video.

Straight out of Las Vegas Penn And Teller Get Hippies To Sign Water Banning Petition.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi3erdgVVTw
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/13/2007 1:37:19 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

Which ones? The ones that work for ExxonMobil subsidiary companies?

Yeah...I remember those Tabacco guys sitting in front of the senate under oath saying "Nicotine is not addictive."

Don't be such a chickenshit, why don't you enlist and make us proud.
— nozferatu (View Profile)

Posted on 2/14/2007 1:51:05 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -3

I watched it for 10 seconds and I noticed that loser Hugo Chavez in a photo and shut it down.

A Communist is a failed Capitalist and they don't belong in America.

It's not what this country is about.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/13/2007 2:23:41 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

There seems to be a lot of Bush bashing in this forum.
While freedom of expression allows one to express their opinion / political opinion, i would ask everybody to take a minute and breathe deeply. As much as the coasts (East /West) hate Bush, he is by no means stupid. While he may have a problem with speaking in public, please try to remember that this man won the election twice. If Democrats were that smart they would have figured out how to beat him the second time. Instead what did they offer ? Kerry ! LOL
— izfuney (View Profile)

Posted on 2/13/2007 2:15:17 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

Jeb Bush was Governor during the 2000 election.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/13/2007 2:29:12 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

Washington DC is supposed to rebuild New Orleans?

Since when?
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/13/2007 2:39:07 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

papi, watch Penn and Teller in Las Vegas havin' a good time with cups and balls on The View.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPyvAtQYVok
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/13/2007 12:59:03 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 5

nascar does suck.
— siulaba (View Profile)

Posted on 2/13/2007 3:20:16 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

Thanks for the contribution.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/13/2007 1:01:16 PM | | Votes: 4

You people are idiots. You took a funny Top Gear segment that makes fun of rednecks and turned it into a political discussion about americans fears and global warming. Top gear did something dumb and the people that they baited took the bait. Hell laugh at it and move on!!!!
T
— TauronB2G (View Profile)

Posted on 2/13/2007 3:21:09 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 8

And the funny part is it was all staged by Top Gear.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/13/2007 1:00:14 PM | | Votes: 2

Florida is depressing
— Murcielago_LP640 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/13/2007 4:43:04 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

No one disputes that the earth is warming. The dispute rests in the assumption that man is causing said warming. Historically, the earth has had long periods of warming and cooling, long before the advent of cars, factories, etc. In fact, during the 40's and 50's, which saw a huge spike in industrialization and the # of automobiles, the earth actually cooled during this period. This would make you doubt whether the warming we feel now is man made or not. The scary part is that fools such as Al Gore go running around the globe trying to scare us to death when the science on this matter isn't even settled yet. Some very distinguished scientisits from Harvard and MIT refute much of what Gore is trying to sell. Yet Gore refuses to debate this issue with anyone. I wonder why? Remember folks, in the 1970's Newsweek had a cover story with a doomsday scenario called "The Coming Ice Age" which predicted a global cooling period which would destroy crops and cause famine so how can you be surprised when people today laugh at Newsweek cover stories trying to sell doomsday scenarios about global warming. And it is downright troubling to hear gloabl warming converts lambasting global warming critics for not getting on board to join the doomsday team. To hear scientists deride other scientists for being skeptics is scary. The whole point of the study of science is for people to be skeptical of assumed truths. I can just imagine scientists arguing way back when that all scientists must conform to the belief that the earth is flat. Well, there was one skeptic back in the day that resisted that assumed truth. Thankfully.
— goojman (View Profile)

Posted on 2/13/2007 9:04:11 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 7

goojman, excellent post.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/13/2007 12:23:55 PM | | Votes: 5

those scientists who don't belive in human caused global warming were probably the ones paid by either the white house or exxon mobil.
Just to remind everyone, the UN council on global warming recently upgraded it to "very likely" that global warming is man made. that means they are 90% sure.
— Rupert (View Profile)

Posted on 2/13/2007 5:19:10 PM | | Votes: -3

And for every UN report there are skeptical scientists from MIT, Harvard,etc. whose work indicates the exact opposite of what the UN report states. You have not refuted any of my points. We were also told that Katrina in 2005 was due to global warming and going forward we were going to see even more hurricanes of a more ferocious variety yet 2006 was one of the quietest hurricane seasons ever. I am amazed at how spoon fed folks are to what the media and biased politicos throw at you. You gobble up every bite. For every report and scientist that Al Gore cites there are others who disagree. That is the whole point. The science of what is causing global warming is not settled no matter what C student Al Gore tries to cram down your throat with his hysteria. Expand your reading. Open your mind. Just because the UN says something is very likely doesn't mean it is fact. The UN also said they were administering an Oil for Food program to help starving Iraqis yet it was an oil for palaces plan with many of the top brass in the UN running the program taking bribes form Saddam. Let me repeat, the earth has had multiple warming and cooling periods for as long as scientists have been recording data. During the largest increase in CO2 pollution during the industrialization in the 1940's and 1950's, the earth cooled instead of warmed. Weird, no? And every single model used to predict future warming has been proven inaccurate. As technology gets better, scientists are using more accurate tools to monitor the atmosphere. And guess what has happened? As the
tools recording climate change have gotten more accurate, the dire predictions regarding global warmed have been discounted. Even the UN report acknowledges that the silly hysteria spouted by Gore about sea levels rising 20 feet and swallowing cities whole is a bunch of bunk. What is really chilling is the Orwellian tendencies of the environmental left to ostracize and demonize reputable scientists, such as those from Harvard and MIT, who dare disagree with their hysteria. The entire field of Science has always been and always will be based on skepticism. Skeptcism is good for Science and for the world because what we know today and what we think we know about tomorrow will be disproven in the future to our benefit. It will give us a greater understanding of our world. So please stop acting like lemmings. It may well be that man is causing global warming. Fine. Then let's talk this through. Let's assemble scientists of every stripe, and not ones hand picked by the biased UN, and hear all sides of the debate and see all of the research that has been done. And for every researcher funded by Exxon, how many others are funded by agenda driven groups like Greenpeace? Is that research biased since it was funded by a group that has a stake in the outcome like Greenpeace? Or do you consider that good bias becasue you agree with Greenpeace? Hypocrite. And for political hacks like Gore to cre
— goojman (View Profile)

Posted on 2/13/2007 6:27:02 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

Ok so lets breakdown the science behind climate change. The climate is incredibly complex there are many many factors that contribute to it, ocean curents, vegetation levels, cloud cover, energy absorbed and reflected from the sun amd also greenhouse gases. By greenhouse gases I refer to those gases that have the property to trap heat.
The climate is so complex that even the most powerful super computers that exist stil lcant reliably predict the weather a week in the future. This means that any predictions we make on the climate in the future are based on generalizations and trends. Of course this means there is much room for error.
Why do we think human actions are causing global warming? Well if you think back to your school days its to do with the carbon cycle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_cycle). That big diagram with trees, cows farting, fires and dead animals decaying. Well part of the cycle includes fossil fuels. Fossil fuels are known as a "carbon sink" that means they store large amounts of carbon outside of the cycle, thus helping to maintain the balance of CO2 in the atmosphere. Well since the the Industrial revolution we have been burning fossil fuels at steadily increasing rates resulting in you guessed it in an increase of CO2 being released (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Global_Carbon_Emission_by_Type.png)
Some of this carbon is absorbed by plants and some is released into the atmosphere. The result is an increase in the level of CO2 in the atmosphere. (http://www.exploratorium.edu/climate/atmosphere/data3.html)
Now NOBODY denies or has scientific evidence to prove to the contrary that there is an increase in CO2 in the atmosphere.
So what does this have to do with global warming? Well CO2 is one of the so called Greenhouse Gases in that it has the ability to trap and reflect heat (ie infra red light). THe argument is that an increase in CO2 results in an increase in heat being trapped and therefore global warming. This is not disputed by the unamed scientists at MIT or Harvard.
That is the basic science behind the theory. Where the argument rests is on the the magnitude of this effect and whether this overwhelms other factors that affect the climate.
Now we know the climate changes, as you have said there was a short period of cooling amidst a general warming trend since the 19th century. (In reference to your statement about hurricanes it looked at 2 single data points rather then a trend as the meterologists were no doubt referring to) If this warming trend continues we will no doubt watch the climate change whether over 10 years or 100 but as yet there are no concrete plans for how our communities will react and adapt to this. THis is the sad thing I find in the debate that neither side offers options for how we can adapt.
If you are going to talk about Orwellian tendencies please explain why you believe the UN is biased and Gore a hack.
I appologize for my incoherence its late and I have had a few dri
— knoxodie (View Profile)

Posted on 2/13/2007 7:32:07 PM | | Votes: -1

goojman,

Don't let people get to you: I have discovered through time that most people don't know what they are talking about. What you have said is pretty rational.

There are fundamental problems with the historical data. The biggest example is that in an attempt to prove a link between atmospheric CO2 levels and temperature, utilizing data from both the ice sheets and the equatorical ragions, these were able to be graphed as a function of time. There is indeed a general mirror trend to the data, thus it woudl suggest a causal relationship. There is a large problem with this though: the temperature trends PROCEED CO2 levels in the atmosphere not the antithesis. The question question then is through what mechanism is it possible for temperature to increase CO2 levels in the atmosphere. The possiblity exists that temperature increases a wrought through variations in the orbital plane of the earth and that they induce desertification in the equatorial regions thus increasing CO2. The problem with that is that the lag between the two curves is between 30,000-40,000 years. That is a problem: a big one...the spread of gases in the atmosphere is dictated by the diffusivity equation and those who have studied this suggest that there is a 30 year lag between the time emitted and its ability to affect climate. That is still 3 orders of magnitude different. That particular point is usually glazed by certain people and explained away as due to "variations in the earths orbit" but that explains nothing; there is still what seems to be a link between temperature and CO2 levels in the atmosphere, with CO2 apparently the result of temperature increase. Its convoluted and weird and nobody really knows what to make of it.

Global climate studies that focus upon CO2 are inherently stupid. You should study first that which has the highest capacity to induce change: that isn't CO2 its methane, which is 23 times worse.

It is fully possible that hydrates have something to do with all of this. I have been lucky enough to have both Dr. Dendy Sloan [considered THE expert in hydrates in the world, there is no paper about them which doesn't mention him] and Dr. Christiansen who is also somewhat of an expert in the area. Gas Hydrates are formed in low temperature high pressure situations and are basically ice in crystaline form with gas; these are a form of clathrate. I won't go into the equation describing the formation conditions , it depends upon the gas specific gravity and pressures, and has 15 coefficients; it is a long equation. These usually form subsea in deep water. If temperature increases for the oceans, it would induce the release of these gases from the hydrate form into the atmosphere. They don't really know how much hydrate there is out there but it possilbity exists that it would be fully devastating. Of course, then the methane would have to be combusted with oxygen [volcanism?] to form CO2. I don't know honestly.

Lastly: Al Gore is a complet
— cdoke (View Profile)

Posted on 2/13/2007 9:17:18 PM | | Votes: 5

...idiot. I remember reading the Denver Post about a renouned hippie climatologist who flatly said it was inaccurate.
— cdoke (View Profile)

Posted on 2/13/2007 9:19:45 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

Of course the caveat about hydrates is that the methane released is more damaging than the CO2. Sorry that my posts are not well written: I type too fast.
— cdoke (View Profile)

Posted on 2/13/2007 9:26:20 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

For those of you that don't like Rednecks you should watch this video of Japanese fisherman slaughtering Dolphins - heart breaking cruelty

Watch at your own discretion.

http://www.glumbert.com/media/dolphin
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/13/2007 6:51:03 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

We know.

Thanks for acknowledging.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/13/2007 11:20:44 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

Knoxodie proves my point. The statement that global warming is man made is as he states it an "argument". It is one side of the coin. It is not settled science. It is theory. Ever think that that theory is wrong. Some very bright scientists at Harvard and MIT say it's wrong. And all we hear from the environmental left is that their theory is fact that must be accepted by all. And what is Orwellian is the fact that skeptical scientists are being defamed and railroaded because they don't accept the left's dogma. If you don't see that as Orwellian then you need to read more Orwell. And if you don't think that these skeptics aren't being defamed, just talk to them. It is scary what is happening to them. Their critics are attemtping to silence them by any means necessary and that is truly scary for science and for our civilization in general. How do I address Will when he can't even grasp the basic point. I already admitted the earth is warming. The issue is whether it is man made or not. Silly phrases like "global climate change does not exist" show that either you lack a base level of human intelligence or you are haven't read my earlier posts. You are missing the point sport.
As for the legitimacy of the UN, ask the millions slaughtered in Rwanda about that as the UN did not lift a finger to help them or the thousands currently being slaughtered in Darfur while the UN dithers and decides if the slaughter is technically called genocide or not or the thousnads slaughtered in the Balkans while the UN did nothing or the thousands in need of Tsunami relief who waited for weeks for the UN to get their operation in motion while the US military was airlifting supplies in from day 1. The UN is a pathetic joke. As for Gore, he is a hack because he makes outrageous hysterical claims based upon junk science. He tries to scare people into thinking that sea levels will rise 20 feet and consume cities and he claimed that Katrina was due to global warming when the head of the US hurricane center said and now even the UN said his theory was total bunk. He's a fearmonger using garbage info to pass his political agenda. That is the definition of a hack.
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Posted on 2/13/2007 8:57:42 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 6

I think you are unfairly painting all of the different parts UN with the same brush. As a force for international political force and disaster response the UN has admitedly failed due to the myriad of political interests of the member states. However many of the other initiatives sponsored bythe UN such as the research carried out on climate change and other organizations such as the World Health Organization have been great successes because they are largely devoid of political interests that cause the inaction of the security council. The UN while failing in some respects has in others succeeded. However we are increasingly realizing that many issues we face today especially regarding the environment are not neatly bound by the lines on a map, meaning we need organizations such as the UN to face them.
Regarding climate change my argument was to point out that climate change is happening, it is a natural process but one that can be affected by human actions.
I encourage all of you to read "the Gaia Hypothesis" by i think it was David Lovelock. While his theories may seem extreme the idea you should take of it is the incredible interconnectedness of all living systems and how delicate the balance can be. Every decision we make may affect the world tomorrow. Since we all have ashared interest in the future of this planet, isnt it time to practice some caution?
The time where humanity can make frivolous decisions without regards to the consquences must now be consigned to our past. As population pressures increase and demands for resources and energy increase we must increasingly study every possible outcome.
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Posted on 2/15/2007 6:05:54 AM | | Votes: 1

Whatever happened to Captain Planet?
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Posted on 2/13/2007 9:52:01 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

HEARING ON 'WARMING OF PLANET' CANCELED BECAUSE OF ICE STORM

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash8.htm
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Posted on 2/14/2007 1:35:50 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

Nothing worse than a typical snow storm in the middle of Global Warming.

*cries* and heads to beach.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/14/2007 3:12:31 PM | | Votes: 3

What does this have to do with Cars? I wish autospies would remove user submitted stories.
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Posted on 2/14/2007 10:32:54 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

I don't care if global warming exists or not. It doesn't change the fact that we are polluting this planet at an astonishing rate. Disclaimer: I am as much a capitalist as anyone who visits this board. I create jobs, save, invest, and do what I can to make productive contributions to our economy, but I realize what is truly important in this life and money is not even in my top 5, while the anti-global warming crowd seems to ONLY think about their stocks and 401K balances.

News flash: All the money in the world is not going to save your kids and grandkids if you are wrong.

Stone

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Posted on 2/14/2007 11:00:03 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2

Valid points, Stone. Nice job.

Funny the intricacies we have with all this. We've got the Euros who love to talk about Americans having unhealthy diets and lifestyles while 1 of every 2 of them has a cigarette in their mouth. We've got the ultra-conservative crowd who live in denial and see it as only being 'skeptical' against the liberals, and then the liberals that think every move the conservatives make is sinister.

Worse, the rest of the world seems to only be able to focus upon the issues hampering America as if their countries did not have their own issues and while the majority of them would relish living in America more than anything else.

But I sure echo your points here. Mirrors my own.
— Allosaur (View Profile)

Posted on 2/15/2007 7:45:07 PM | | Votes: 2

The goal of the Redneck is to play the bagpipes while destroying the planet.

Good day.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/14/2007 2:27:54 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

You Might Be A Redneck If . . .

. . . you were acquitted for murdering your first wife after she threw out your Elvis 45’s.

. . . you think watching professional wrestling is foreplay.

. . . your front porch collapses and four dogs get killed.

. . . you no longer drink wine ever since the screw cap got caught up your nose.

. . . you think that Dom Perignon is a Mafia leader.

. . . that billboard that says, “Say No To Crack” reminds you to pull up your jeans.

. . . your wife’s hairdo was ever ruined by a ceiling fan.

. . . you go to your family reunions looking for a date.

. . . you think a Volvo is part of a woman’s anatomy.

— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/15/2007 5:15:18 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

Hey 43LE, what a convenient argument! If it's warm, it must be global warming. If it's cold, it must be global warming. There is no way you could lose. It would be funny if you weren't so pathetic. Lemming.
— goojman (View Profile)

Posted on 2/15/2007 5:37:19 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

So....

...ronsscooby is a dumbass.
— Matthew1 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/15/2007 6:03:58 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

Antarctic temperatures disagree with climate model predictions
COLUMBUS , Ohio – A new report on climate over the world's southernmost continent shows that temperatures during the late 20th century did not climb as had been predicted by many global climate models.

This comes soon after the latest report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change that strongly supports the conclusion that the Earth's climate as a whole is warming, largely due to human activity.

It also follows a similar finding from last summer by the same research group that showed no increase in precipitation over Antarctica in the last 50 years. Most models predict that both precipitation and temperature will increase over Antarctica with a warming of the planet.

David Bromwich, professor of professor of atmospheric sciences in the Department of Geography, and researcher with the Byrd Polar Research Center at Ohio State University, reported on this work at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science at San Francisco.

"It's hard to see a global warming signal from the mainland of Antarctica right now," he said. "Part of the reason is that there is a lot of variability there. It's very hard in these polar latitudes to demonstrate a global warming signal. This is in marked contrast to the northern tip of the Antarctic Peninsula that is one of the most rapidly warming parts of the Earth."

Bromwich says that the problem rises from several complications. The continent is vast, as large as the United States and Mexico combined. Only a small amount of detailed data is available – there are perhaps only 100 weather stations on that continent compared to the thousands spread across the U.S. and Europe . And the records that we have only date back a half-century.

"The best we can say right now is that the climate models are somewhat inconsistent with the evidence that we have for the last 50 years from continental Antarctica .

"We're looking for a small signal that represents the impact of human activity and it is hard to find it at the moment," he said.

— goojman (View Profile)

Posted on 2/15/2007 8:42:01 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

Don't remind me of your immaturity.

My statement was a reaction to EL34's comment in which you called him a 'tree hugger' because he was offended by Dolphin slaughtering.

But I won't continue wasting my breath to a 14 year old.
— Matthew1 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/15/2007 10:58:44 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

And by the way, that video was horrific. To think that there was nothing wrong with it shows a severe lack of maturity, and probably a medium to high level of retardation.
— Matthew1 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/15/2007 11:06:09 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

Correct me if i'm wrong.... but wasn't there a video involved here somewhere? I could have sworn this was a car site, not some political debate on whether global warming is real or not, or whether bush sucks or whatever.
Let me know when this site is about cars again.
— 2007Tahoe (View Profile)

Posted on 2/16/2007 12:08:17 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Back to the subject - I think

I think anyone who was offended by the video really shouldn't be watching Top Gear - I am not going to insult any American persons intelligence but they find it very difficult to understand our (British) humour - especially irony. You should also understand that Jeremy thrives on winding people up - and everyone falls for it. I really think if three cars were driven around Britain with similar comments painted on them people would just laugh or ignore it.

Now I would suggest if anyone wants a debate on global warming they firstly go to a site that specialises in that subject.
— safari (View Profile)

Posted on 2/18/2007 6:44:17 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Back to the subject - I think

I think anyone who was offended by the video really shouldn't be watching Top Gear - I am not going to insult any American persons intelligence but they find it very difficult to understand our (British) humour - especially irony. You should also understand that Jeremy thrives on winding people up - and everyone falls for it. I really think if three cars were driven around Britain with similar comments painted on them people would just laugh or ignore it.

Now I would suggest if anyone wants a debate on global warming they firstly go to a site that specialises in that subject.
— safari (View Profile)

Posted on 2/18/2007 6:44:31 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

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