	Agent009 "I sincerely thank you for the warning. Now I'm off to sharpen my pitchfork."
	View My AgentSpace

Who Are The Winners And Losers So Far For The Year

Agent009 submitted on 10/08/2007 Official Bell & Ross Timestamp: 12:42 PM
from: www.autospies.com

[63] user comments | category: Misc News

Print this Page |

Digg It |

del.icio.us

Who Are The Winners And Losers So Far For The Year

At the close of the 3rd quarter many manufacturers will take a look back assess their position and make the final assualt to sell more cars than they did last year.

With a shaky market, and tight consumer lending in place, it has been a tough job for everyone, but there are a few clear cut winners for the year so far.

With 230 selling days completed, coincidently the same as last year, all of the various reporting methods converge on a singular figure and can be judged equally.

Who is doing the best job beating last years figures and who is dragging their heels?

	2007 CYTD	2006 CYTD	%
Ferrari	1,303	1,051	24.0%
Mitsubishi	105,826	90,104	17.4%
Lincoln	102,449	89,494	14.5%
Saturn	187,882	168,180	11.7%
Bentley	2,959	2,692	9.9%
Audi	68,479	62,579	9.4%
Mazda	228,396	209,239	9.2%
Maserati	1,679	1,546	8.6%
BMW	216,337	200,063	8.1%
Jeep	363669	337883	7.6%
Land Rover	36,074	33,527	7.6%
Mini	31,936	29,770	7.3%
Infiniti	93,824	88,246	6.3%
GMC	381,238	363,236	5.0%
Kia	232,043	221,997	4.5%
Nissan	719,229	688,118	4.5%
Honda	1,056,794	1,011,420	4.5%
Lexus	244656	234474	4.3%
Toyota	1756990	1694022	3.7%
Mercedes-Benz	180,387	177,136	1.8%
Suzuki	82,000	81,328	0.8%
Hyundai	358,407	359,259	-0.2%
Porsche	26,278	26,411	-0.5%
Maybach	131	135	-3.0%
Dodge	806,477	835,065	-3.4%
Volkswagen	175,079	182,174	-3.9%
Saab	25,685	27,586	-6.9%
Subaru	138,620	148,882	-6.9%
Chevrolet	1,748,548	1,878,166	-6.9%
Acura	136,726	149,090	-8.3%
Cadillac	154,982	169,997	-8.8%
Volvo	80,991	89,876	-9.9%
Chrysler	408,677	455,000	-10.2%
Mercury	129,743	146,418	-11.4%
Pontiac	276,589	321,953	-14.1%
Ford	1,620,925	1,911,193	-15.2%
Rolls Royce	227	270	-15.9%
Isuzu	5,534	6,774	-18.3%
Hummer	42,760	53,236	-19.7%
Buick	143,915	191,041	-24.7%
Jaguar	12,017	16,508	-27.2%

2007 SEMA Auto Show, SEMA Girls and Models Photo Gallery

Who Are The Winners And Losers So Far For The Year

Comments:

Images hosted in your AgentSpace can now be posted in the comments section using the following syntax (case matters):
[img]IMAGE URL[/img]
Example: [img]http://agent004.myautospies.com/users/150/Sample-Gallery/sample1.JPG[/img]

theoptimisticpessimist - 10/8/2007 1:15:41 PM

+4 Boost

Lincoln, Wow!

reply to this comment

DaHarder - 10/8/2007 1:27:24 PM

0 Boost

Regardless of actual numbers, the single biggest winner so far this year has to be Cadillac.
The new CTS is simply a masterpiece of design/engineering/manufacturing.

It's rare that I am totally blown away after a test drive, but this vehicle is Just That Good.

There's now doubt that the CTS-V will be my next sports sedan!

reply to this comment

AgentOrange - 10/8/2007 6:04:25 PMView My AgentSpace

+3 Boost

Agreed. Only 2 of my neighbours have announced getting '08 models thus far and both have ordeed the '08 Caddy CTS AWD models.

DaHarder - 10/8/2007 1:29:20 PM

0 Boost

Correction...

There's NO Doubt... I'm Buying The CTS-V!

(Hey: I just woke up... LOL!)

reply to this comment

zairnaim - 10/8/2007 2:27:23 PM

+3 Boost

you should check out the competition first

DaHarder - 10/8/2007 7:15:25 PM

+1 Boost

Meaning what?

After actually owning 26 vehicles (as opposed to pretending to have owned them... like some others in here), I've pretty much experienced (through ownership) every 'alleged' dream car I desired in the past, some ending up being more nightmare than anything else, and this latest batch of 'executive sedans' either look ridiculous (i.e. the 5-series with its Kabuki-faced front end and 'oh I forgot to add the trunk' Bangle Butt) or far too similar to generations past (Audi's lovely, but theme-tired A6).

The Cadillac looks very fresh and forward-thinking, with an interior that is simply THE CLASS LEADER in design/ergonomics... The fact that it drives as well as any of them (even in current spec) is enough for me to make my decision.

I'm so over playing 'Fan-Boy' for any make or model, I'm buying what I want, and if someone does or doesn't approve, they can just F-OFF!

SoSnootySo - 10/8/2007 2:26:27 PM

+3 Boost

Nitpick: Why don't Jeep, Toyota, and Lexus have commas in their numbers. LOL

reply to this comment

Agent009 - 10/8/2007 2:59:10 PMView My AgentSpace

-1 Boost

formatting on my part

M35MT - 10/8/2007 2:54:41 PMView My AgentSpace

+3 Boost

Good to see Mitsu doing better. Ford is getting crushed, down 289,000 vehicles, that's more than the total SOLD by Mercedes, Audi and Jaguar combined. Chrysler and Buick are also screwed. Most of those at the bottom come at no suprise.

reply to this comment

1970toyotamarc - 10/8/2007 3:16:48 PM

0 Boost

Cuuld it be....this is huge news.....the number one selling brand in the United States........

TOYOTA

Why isnt this bigger news?

reply to this comment

g12a12b64 - 10/8/2007 4:00:31 PM

+3 Boost

Audi has the higher percentage among the germans, but BMW sold more cars...

AUDI............... 9.4% = 5.900 more cars sold
Mercades-Benz...... 1.8% = 3.251 more cars sold
BMW................ 8.1% =16.274 more cars sold

GO BMW!!!

reply to this comment

S4cabriofoxone - 10/8/2007 11:38:27 PMView My AgentSpace

+3 Boost

Of course they did- but at least Audi is making great headway in the US, which I find surprising. I haven't noticed a 10% surge in Audi cars on the road or anything.

reply to this comment

ERAU06 - 10/8/2007 3:18:05 PM

+1 Boost

You know what the problem is with GM...A Buick is now more exclusive than a Cadillac. And saying Cadillac is the biggest winner...You think the stock holders would agree? Usally near a 10 percent loss of buisness is a bad sign.

reply to this comment

ERAU06 - 10/8/2007 3:21:54 PM

+2 Boost

Audi is hardly top of the Germans. It is much harder for a company that already sells a lot of vehicles to grow as quickly as one that does less vloume. If you look at the loss of the parent company VW which brings in a larger cash flow than the Audi, The company and a whole is not doing all that well.

reply to this comment

S4cabriofoxone - 10/8/2007 11:39:42 PMView My AgentSpace

+2 Boost

"If you look at the loss of the parent company VW which brings in a larger cash flow than the Audi, The company and a whole is not doing all that well."

Actually, Audi is the bacon-bringer in the VW group. They make most of the profits.

Also, you can't forget Bentley- very profitable, and one of the biggest winners for the year.

ERAU06 - 10/8/2007 3:22:05 PM

+1 Boost

EnvyofyouRS5 - 10/8/2007 3:54:56 PM

-2 Boost

Those numbers must be incorrect for Audi USA, If i remember correctly they had around 180 thousand vehicles sold in 2006. ERAU06 VW "The company and a whole is not doing all that well" By this you mean that all the money put into designing and producing the A5 and and R8 are not well?
Plus the fact that Audi owns Bentley and they are working on adding the R and T lineups in the Flying Spur and Continental GT. Bentley would not be doing this unnecessary package lineup on those vehicles if sales as a "whole" we're not substantial.

reply to this comment

Agent009 - 10/8/2007 4:36:57 PMView My AgentSpace

+4 Boost

The Audi numbers are correct for the US market.

S4cabriofoxone - 10/8/2007 11:41:02 PMView My AgentSpace

+2 Boost

No- Audi sold a bit more 90,000 vehicles here last year. They will make 100,000 this year, but it will be a squeeze. At least November/December are their strongest months, usually.

amazinBimmer - 10/8/2007 5:13:44 PM

-6 Boost

caltrans..aka moron. audi is not even close to bmw. at this rate it will be 2200 before they can catch up and thats assuming their growth wont slow down. and it has to as they exhaust new models and need organic growth. for amature company like bmw to grow at8.1 percent is quite simply, domination. you go do your homework. before you respond with your cheap audi stuff, please tell us what you do and drive. i am sick of vw types posting on boards. and audi is their aspirational vehicle. boy it must suck not making a lot of money.

reply to this comment

S4cabriofoxone - 10/8/2007 11:44:10 PMView My AgentSpace

+2 Boost

"at this rate it will be 2200 before they can catch up and thats assuming their growth wont slow down. and it has to as they exhaust new models and need organic growth. for amature company like bmw to grow at8.1 percent is quite simply, domination."

Wrong as usual.

Audi's growth will NOT slow down- they have so much potential in the US market, while BMW is nearing its ceiling. And, you can't forget the world, either; the Chinese market is where they really shine. They absolutely dominate with the A6 there- and it will be its biggest market eventually. I believe it's already surpassed the US sales. They also sell more than BMW in Germany, the UK and a few other countries; I believe they're only behind Mercedes-Benz in Europe as a whole.

I am very proud of/happy for BMW. They are an amazing company- their cars continue to impress, their profits are still up and their sales are through the roof. But you can't deny that Audi is looming pretty closely--right next to Mercedes-Benz--in their rear view.

GermanNut - 10/8/2007 5:30:27 PM

+4 Boost

amazinBimmer obviously doesn't realize that Audi's growth won't slowdown and Audi is expected to grow, according to industry analysts, at approximately 10% per year for the next 10 years. Look at Mercedes' shitty growth rate of 1.8%. They are going to get passed by Audi within 3 years.

amazinBimmer also doesn't realize that with $10 billion invested in strictly new product development, Audi is clearly capable of continuing this growth rate. Add to the fact, China will be the largest car market in the world by 2015, which Audi happens to dominate by a huge margin and the sustained growth rate of 10% becomes even more real.

Oh yeah, I forgot to add the next generation Bentley Continental Flying Spur will be based off of the next generation Audi A8. By it must suck driving a $200K Volkswagen

2015 amazinBimmer, your reign of BMW leading the sales race will be over.

boy it must suck not being able to give respect to a company that will outsell your favorite brand globally within the next 8 years.

tell us what do you drive, amazinBimmer? A brand that will be losing to Audi in the next 8 years??????

reply to this comment

cs4444 - 10/8/2007 5:37:05 PM

-4 Boost

And germannut doesn't realize he knows noting about the market, please stop. Your talking complete nonsense.

reply to this comment

finishline - 10/8/2007 5:37:40 PM

+3 Boost

Damn, you people are hardcore.

I'm kinda glad Acura is down. Does that mean I'll get a better deal?

reply to this comment

TheSailor - 10/8/2007 5:51:24 PM

+5 Boost

Why is this interesting news?! I fail to see the value of this piece of news, and I fail to see why people make such a big deal of it... What does growth rate have to do with making good cars?!

BTW: To the loosers discussing who has the bigger car (company)... or smallest willie... WHY ARE YOU WASTING YOUR OWN AND EVERYBODY ELSES TIME WITH THIS CRAP?!

amazinBimmer: If you are still too young to comprehend the fact that Audi makes cars which are just as good as BMWs and has little more to do with VWs than BMWs have to do with Peugeots, you need to get going on that kindergarten grade and stop wasting everybodies time here!

GermanNut: Don't you realize that you are talking just as much out of your a** as amazinBimmer and that the reason why Audi has a higher growth rate than the other companies in the bracket is because it is still an upcomming brand and they sell less volume, therefore a higher percent increase is much easier to achieve?
The "experts" saying that Audi will increase their sale with 10% per annum are just guessing! This isn't like putting your money in the bank and watch them grow? It all depends on future products from the competitors and the future products from the company itself... The A5 is exciting news, however, coupés are somewhat of a nieche, the cars which are really going to matter are the next gen. A4, A6 and A8...

"boy it must suck not being able to give respect to a company that will outsell your favorite brand globally within the next 8 years." - Man that is pathetic!

reply to this comment

cktoo - 10/8/2007 9:06:26 PM

+3 Boost

You bast@rds!! How dare you use the Buckeyes and "Failure" in that picture. You should have focused in on the Wolverines in the background...especially this year. Not even sure what the story is about...ha.

reply to this comment

ceric - 10/8/2007 9:17:14 PM

+1 Boost

Are you sure about Chevrolet selling as many vehicles as Toyota?
Please double check the numbers.

reply to this comment

amazinBimmer - 10/8/2007 9:36:35 PM

-4 Boost

germanut.. m5. beat that, you lexus used car salesman. boy it does suck driving a m5. Ha!

reply to this comment

AUTO_UNION - 10/9/2007 10:58:36 AM

+3 Boost

Wake up amazindreamer. Look through the window and you'll see 116i. I know it must be hard for you since you were dreaming about having an M5.

huu76 - 10/8/2007 9:51:12 PM

-2 Boost

I noticed that the ',' were mysteriously missing from Toyota/Lexus' numbers. For a brief moment, I thought BMW had outsold them which I knew was impossible.

reply to this comment

huu76 - 10/8/2007 9:55:46 PM

-2 Boost

Good eye snooty, you saw it before me. I missed that Jeep was missing the commas.

g12,
Well, Lexus outsold BMW.

reply to this comment

enthusiastx11 - 10/8/2007 11:18:16 PM

0 Boost

lexus brand outsells bmw because of ONE model...the RX sells over 100,000 per year.

BMW sells far more CARS than lexus. as does mercedes. and both at a far higher average price.

sewingmachine - 10/9/2007 6:02:31 AM

+1 Boost

it ok to try to spin the #'s which ever way u like enth'. but lexus still outsells them, its ok u can cry somewhere else.

huu76 - 10/8/2007 9:56:27 PM

0 Boost

and Lexus' higher volume models cost more than BMW's, significantly more I might add.

reply to this comment

enthusiastx11 - 10/8/2007 11:16:41 PM

0 Boost

they do? really?

3-series more expensive than IS/ES
X5 more than RX

you got it backwards, BMW's volume models cost significantly more than lexus.

autopro - 10/10/2007 12:42:13 PMView My AgentSpace

+1 Boost

More than one third of BMW's sales are the three series where their buying business with their lease deals.So your 100,000 unit of rx's doesn't hold water.

chewy - 10/8/2007 10:22:41 PMView My AgentSpace

+3 Boost

we'll see what happens in the future

reply to this comment

neutral - 10/8/2007 10:34:20 PM

+1 Boost

Not saying that these facts are incorrect....

But for GM's sake, lots of GM's new (rather sweet) product line has just recently come out. GM spent the majority of 2007 selling their legacy vehicles (like the 2007 malibu and the buick rendevous). I can't wait to see GM's performance once a new Buick Lacrosse comes out, along with the malibu and CTS (I know the CTS is already out, just wait till the word gets out even more).

GM is doing very well, in the past few years they have made the biggest strides of any automaker. GM is a serious player that FINALLY got their crap together. They go to show, Americans CAN build good cars once the fire is under our asses and the penny-pinchers stay away from the designers and engineers.

reply to this comment

vdiv - 10/8/2007 11:34:32 PM

+1 Boost

is this number of cars made or numbers of cars sold YTD? in either case it doesn't show the whole story. what about the asking and selling price? profit margins? debt? show me the money!!! :)

reply to this comment

GermanNut - 10/9/2007 12:14:53 AM

+4 Boost

amazinBimmer....R8 which is Lamborghini derived and shares the same chassis with the raging bull of Italy. Price tag of $115K take that you lowly E39 M5 owner that will get spanked both in the looks department and also performance as well and even PRICE

Take that you lowly BMW driver. What happened???

You couldn't afford the new RS6 or did you want to share engines with the prestigious Peugot?.....Keep driving a Kia Rio

reply to this comment

GermanNut - 10/9/2007 12:16:48 AM

+5 Boost

At least my car has the chassis of Lamborghini. A true sportscar maker unlike BMWs ultimate driving gimmick machine slogan

reply to this comment

lexusis350 - 10/9/2007 12:23:37 AM

0 Boost

hyundai is down? hmmm, it seems like they aren't as popular as they would like you to believe.

reply to this comment

minimalist - 10/9/2007 3:45:59 AM

+2 Boost

well, I am one of the 20 owners in the WHOLE WIDE WORLD whom owns a lAMBORGHINI REVENTON at $1.5M DOLLARS, you lowly, feeble peasants... and that is only my daily driver amongst my multi-million harem of cars in Dubai!

what a bunch of losers.

reply to this comment

M53R - 10/9/2007 8:24:18 AMView My AgentSpace

+3 Boost

amazinBimmer and GermanNut, grow up!

What I find amazing is how bentley continues to grow every year by only adding one model yearly, or sometimes adding nothing. ???

reply to this comment

TheSailor - 10/9/2007 9:41:10 AM

+3 Boost

I guess they are just extremely prestigous... And more and more people can afford them! If I could, I'd buy one aswell... Unfortunately, I don't have 3-400k for a Continental GT... It just goes to show that people care about more than just the amount of gadgetry in their cars...

autopro - 10/9/2007 6:37:21 PMView My AgentSpace

-2 Boost

Lexus sales are flat for a reason they didn't import many more cars this year than last.In 2009 sales are going to increse by double digits. Lexus has been staying flat until dealers built their new dealerships.They don't want their service to suffer,so the flood gates will open in 2009 look out.

reply to this comment