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Will Your Next Car Have 4, 6, or 8 Cylinders?

A JD Power study released earlier this week, indicates that Americans are buying cars with four-cylinder engines in increasing numbers.

 Now with gas prices climbing towards the $4.00 a gallon mark, we can why, the cost has almost doubled in the last few years.

 Looking at the sales trends listed below, you can clearly see the traditional V8 is falling out of favor and the gas miserly 4 cylinder is gaining favor, up over 6% since 1Q of 2003. 

A trend we can expect to continue over the next few months at least.

 Engine Cylinder Mix—Total Retail Sales Percent of Total U.S. Retail Sales

 

8 Cylinder

6 Cylinder

4 Cylinder

1Q 2003

22.50%

45.60%

31.10%

1Q 2007

22.90%

40.80%

34.10%

2Q 2007

21.20%

39.00%

37.50%

3Q 2007

22.10%

39.50%

36.10%

4Q 2007

22.70%

39.90%

35.30%

1Q 2008

20.40%

39.80%

37.90%

 So what this means to most of us is, that the public in general is scaling back due to the high cost of gas, or for simply other reasons.

 So the question of the day is “Will your next car will the motor four, six, or eight cylinders?  And what factors drove your decision?


Will Your Next Car Have 4, 6, or 8 Cylinders?



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w209w114w209w114 - 3/28/2008 1:53:09 PMView My AgentSpace
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Im very happy with a good 6 Cylinder. There really is no need for 8 with todays technology unless it calls for massive tourque, even then a diesel 6 should do fine.

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silver1silver1 - 3/28/2008 2:04:21 PM
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It's really not a need for 6 in some cases like, the 4 is sometimes just as fast as the 6. The Acura TSX is already pushing over 200 horses on a 4.....

But like I stated some. Because some 4 cylinders are EXRTEMELY slow and some are fast...



SpectatorSpectator - 3/28/2008 3:50:17 PM
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And some are highly overrated...like the 2.4L in the TSX (which surprisingly makes only 190hp in the new accord).

Take honda's numbers with a grain of salt. They are great engines (and well capable of over 200hp with aftermarket modifications), but Honda's numbers never really match the Expected WHP numbers when they are placed on the dyno.

Most decent modern NA 4 cylindars produce between 130 and 160 WHP legitimatly.

And if your car is light...that's all it needs....look at the lotus.



silver1silver1 - 3/28/2008 4:17:09 PM
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The Current TSX has 205 horsepower and goes 0-60 in less than 7 seconds On a 4 cylinder.....Thats great...



StarStar - 3/30/2008 5:54:21 PM
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The current TSX can barely move. Try 9 seconds 0 to 60, buddy.


Htay7500Htay7500 - 3/30/2008 7:34:42 PM
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7.5 is what MT said:


http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedan/112_0305_2004_acura_tsx



EnnNorakEnnNorak - 4/3/2008 11:51:04 PM
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If I can't get an I6 or H6 then i'd rather have a V8 or an I4. A 60-degree V6 is not too bad however. 90-degree V6 engines are inherently out of balance.


2ndbimmer2ndbimmer - 3/28/2008 2:02:35 PM
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i like my twin turbo 6 and average 24mpg's in my 335i sedan. a V8 would be nice, but if I need that extra punch, i can upgrade the software to be a monster. i could never drive a 4 cylinder, unless i declared myself boring and old.

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henbmwhenbmw - 3/31/2008 10:40:27 AM
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Apparently you have never heard of a Lancer Evo...


silver1silver1 - 3/28/2008 2:09:20 PM
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If I can get a 8 cyclinder for the mpg of a 6, I'll go for the 8. If I can get a 6 for the mpg of a 4, I'll go for the 6.

Like the Lexus 6 cylinder IS 250 gets 24/32....Thats the gas mpg of a 4 cylinder so I'll choose the 6...


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S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 3/28/2008 7:01:01 PMView My AgentSpace
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Except for the fact that the IS250 is slower than the four-cylinder Audi A4 by a good margin, so there's really no advantage there.


StickShiftCamryStickShiftCamry - 3/30/2008 12:46:56 PM
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Which A4? i'd say they're equal,especially manual IS 250. The 6 on the IS 250 is smoother feeling than the 2.0 in the Audi.


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 3/30/2008 11:56:09 PMView My AgentSpace
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They aren't.

Since when does "smoother feeling" equate to "faster?"

The A4 2.0T's quickest 0-60 time was recorded at 6.5 seconds, by Road & Track. It was equipped with quattro, S-Line and a manual transmission.

I haven't seen the IS250 attain a time under 7.5 seconds. It's a significant difference.



ChicaneShooterChicaneShooter - 3/31/2008 2:08:24 AM
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my 4-banger can beat 99% of ALL OTHER vehicles on the road! (it happens to be mounted in a honda bike. the 1% that ARE faster are BIGGER 4s in other bikes.)

the 4-banger in my car can get better mileage than 98% of all other non-hybrid, non-diesel vehicles out there. and STILL cruise all day at 85 - 90 mph if i wanted (with lesser mpg of course).

WHO CARES about 0-60 times when 95% of the time, i've already DONE accelerating and am just cruising?



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henbmwhenbmw - 3/31/2008 10:42:36 AM
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And you have a 99% higher chance of dying in an accident

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ChicaneShooterChicaneShooter - 4/2/2008 8:00:51 AM
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i also have bet'n 60 - 85% better chances of AVOIDING accidents, due to superior handling and accelerative ability.

not to mention that bikers generally devote 150 - 300% MORE ATTENTION to what's going on than box jockeys.


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BMW4me4everBMW4me4ever - 3/28/2008 2:49:37 PMView My AgentSpace
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Mine is a 135 coupe. then will install the Dinan Chip. Gas mileage is not as big of a concern for me. Performance is. My wife's car, we will be exchanging our 2008 535i for the 2010 X5 Diesel.

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StickShiftCamryStickShiftCamry - 3/31/2008 2:45:22 AM
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535 for a Diesel, thats sad.


0to600to60 - 3/28/2008 2:54:35 PM
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LACMANLACMAN - 3/28/2008 3:02:59 PMView My AgentSpace
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I prefer eight cylinders when they are available but I wont complain with a six...

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ChicaneShooterChicaneShooter - 3/31/2008 2:15:26 AM
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i personally love the SOUND of a v8. however until i become financially independent and get to the point of not minding the upkeep costs, i'll stay with VVTi 4s.
the sound of a high revving 4 getting to the HOT cam is music too, of another sort.



WhelanWhelan - 3/28/2008 3:23:15 PM
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Considering I am looking to get my next car 3-4 years down the road and so cars coming out now will be in my realm. I purchase CPO only. I have been heavily considering the Pontiac G8 GT fully loaded with the 19" alloys, 11 speaker blaupunkt, etc. New the car is listed at $32,745, which means a mid 20's price when I'm ready for it. I'll need a bigger car with a family coming up in those years following and why not have one that is fun.

As for the 4cyl. craze. It could be a mix. More manufacturers are using 4cyl. engines because with new technologies they are able to perform just fine and in some cases exceed V6 and 8 engines. Maybe not in torque, but other areas.

Also the need for a more efficient engine that can get you better mileage.

The only issue I see with this technology of 4cylinders is that adding turbo's and other types of VVT could bring up the debate of you needing to put more premium fuels into your car, thus paying more at the pump. Question is, at what point does the extra 40 cents for premium outweigh the fuel saving advantages.



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vladyxavladyxa - 3/28/2008 3:39:34 PM
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How number of cylinders will affect someone's car buying decision, if at least in people who know just bare minimum about cars, and when the choice is not between 4 and 8 cylinders?

Some cars with 4 cylinders consume more gasoline than cars with 6 cylinders , and some 6 cylinders consume more than 8 cylinders.

And many cars with different engines (4, 6, 8) they are so close in fuel consumption, that they should not be a factor at all. Many times this difference is so small, that people should not be really giving "what is f" about that.

Also, you forgot about 5 cylinders.


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jeffy210jeffy210 - 3/28/2008 3:39:50 PM
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I usually prefer a 6 over a 4. Additionally I want something with more torque than HP and something over 200 lb-ft of torque. This is good for most any acceleration, and more so when you have more than 1 person in the car you don't end up with nil-acceleration.

I know there are 4's with turbos that can meet this, but I have yet to drive a 4 that has power in the low end, most require you to rev it up to get there.

My next car will most likely be a 6-cyl diesel.


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1995e341995e34 - 3/28/2008 3:45:29 PM
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i-6 for me.

i wonder if the above statistics include trucks and suvs. if so, the % of v8 cars would be significantly less.


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sholemonsholemon - 3/28/2008 4:40:01 PMView My AgentSpace
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Well, when I graduate I'm getting a G35...so it looks like it'll be a 6...unless I decide to get a veyron instead.

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investor27investor27 - 3/28/2008 4:46:19 PM
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The Miata is a 4-cylinder car, and it will knock your socks off.

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ChicaneShooterChicaneShooter - 3/31/2008 2:32:26 AM
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since seeing the Fast & Furious movies and reading about import tuners, i know that 4s can be 'built' to match and beat v8s, to say nothing of 6s.

do you know of any Mazda Miata's built up to be 'Vetter Killers?

i've heard of v8s being shoehorned into Miatas, but i think the perfect balance would be destroyed by that.

not that even STOCK miatas are great cars as they are!




ChicaneShooterChicaneShooter - 3/31/2008 3:03:41 AM
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...are not great as they are


ThierryHenry14ThierryHenry14 - 3/28/2008 5:03:24 PM
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maybe a V8 or a 12 cylinder, god willing, but I don't know because I'm definitely not in the market for a car right now... who knows what the trend will be in 3 years, when I am ready for a new car...

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Need4SpeedNeed4Speed - 3/28/2008 5:34:42 PM
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I'll stick to my 6. I'll probably install a supercharger or turbo system(whenever one becomes available).

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S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 3/28/2008 7:07:28 PMView My AgentSpace
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Not sure, but it could be an inline six (BMW) or V8 (Audi, BMW, Merc, Jag, etc).

My sensible side says go for a 335xi, because it will be my second car anyway. On top of that it's nothing to sneeze at, especially with a chip.


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olscuulolscuul - 3/28/2008 9:02:28 PM
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i just went from a 4 cly to a 6 cyl for my primary driver.
the family has grown up since i bought the 4 cyl four years ago. i wanted something with awd and i could could fit in the back seat.
originally, i though about a small suv, but ended up with a fusion.


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kdawgkdawg - 3/29/2008 12:39:57 AM
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I'll be buying the new Camaro with a nice V-8. However, it will have cylinder de-activation, so does that count as a 4 and an 8?

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andrazandraz - 3/29/2008 5:25:14 AM
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to be honest, I am looking at 3 cylinder engines these days.

Americans still thing too big. And still pollute toooo much. Way too much.


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alsarea3alsarea3 - 3/29/2008 6:32:29 AM
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I would to get a V8 but 6 cylinders is enough .. !

4 Cyl just sucks ( may be I would like it in evo or something power full )

And the fuel is not a problem here in Bahrain, Small Country and cheap fuel .. not as other gulf countries but it is cheap enough for a V8 ..


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S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 3/29/2008 10:26:34 AMView My AgentSpace
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What do people have against fours?

A good, strong turbo four, like the one in my A3 or a Saab, provides fantastic acceleration, little lag, a sweet exhaust note at high revs, easy tunability and high efficiency.


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pushrod27pushrod27 - 3/29/2008 10:38:10 AM
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V8 for sure. Six doesn't do it for me. A V12 would also be nice. What do people have against V8s? The V6 applied to Acura's heavy RL sedan consumes as much fuel as the Lexus V8 in real life driving.

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ChicaneShooterChicaneShooter - 3/31/2008 2:22:00 AM
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few have anything against MODERN v8s, like in the LS.

or the tundra.

pushrod v8s have ONLY nice sounds and low end torque going for them. modern 6s and hi-output 4s shame them in hp/l and fuel efficiency.



iamdabest1iamdabest1 - 3/29/2008 9:28:15 PMView My AgentSpace
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my cousin just got a 2008 M5. hes a millionaire and complaining that hes getting 7.5 miles per gallon. i think more and more people will be satisfied with 8cl cars and 6's being that they have more than enough power for most of us.

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StickShiftCamryStickShiftCamry - 3/30/2008 12:44:17 PM
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LEX GS 460 V8 All the way..., wanted 6, but that sound...

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StickShiftCamryStickShiftCamry - 3/30/2008 12:48:45 PM
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Though my CX-7 does a good job for a 4 Cyl. Thank god it's a FWD, i'm able to get wheel spin on launch now w/ my wearing front tires!


LexusLionLexusLion - 3/30/2008 3:51:11 PM
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Where's the 3-cylinder option? lol With gas prices so crazy, I want a small second car with a small engine.

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ChicaneShooterChicaneShooter - 3/31/2008 2:45:59 AM
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imho, the ideal mix of speed potential AND economy, would be something like the Tesla, with a small ICE for recharging away from an outlet.



ChicaneShooterChicaneShooter - 3/31/2008 2:52:52 AM
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i understand it only requires 15 - 25 hp to maintain a 60 mph steady speed. (depending on weight and aero drag.) so a Tesla-like setup with a mere 30 hp gas or diesel could yeild INCREDIBLE range.

once the batteries are depleted, the ICE would have enuff ooomph to continue driving at 50 - 65 mph AND recharge the batteries too!

a 3-cyl would be the "BIG engine" in such a setup. which could be made with a small twin or even one-lunger!



no1listensanywayno1listensanyway - 3/31/2008 1:41:15 AMView My AgentSpace
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henbmwhenbmw - 3/31/2008 10:46:38 AM
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NISSANINFINITINISSANINFINITI - 3/31/2008 11:02:28 AM
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I COULDNT GO BACK TO A 4 CYL ..I DONT THINK UNLESS IT WAS LIKE A HONDA S2000....I NEED THE SPEED.

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jjernstromjjernstrom - 3/31/2008 3:48:20 PM
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the inline 6 of my sister's 330ci sounds and performs awesome...but is too fun to rev and thus doesnt get great mileage...my a4 2.0t's 4 cyl is quick and cruises effortlessly, but doesnt sound inspiring...i get about 370 miles on one tank of gas so i'll stick with 4 cyls

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