What Is It Going To Take To Keep Tesla Drivers From Using Rush Hour As Nap Time?

What Is It Going To Take To Keep Tesla Drivers From Using Rush Hour As Nap Time?

The driver of a Tesla on autopilot appeared to be asleep behind the wheel while whizzing along a Massachusetts highway, new video shows.

A fellow motorist captured the driver with his head slumped forward — and his passenger equally zonked out — along I-90 on Sunday.


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mplsmpls - 9/9/2019 2:03:49 PM
+9 Boost
It might work and they'll get away with it many timesm but there'll come a time when they will not wake up from their morning rush hour nap. Tesa auto pilot is not a proper autonomous driving system


skytopskytop - 9/9/2019 2:30:16 PM
+10 Boost
Their FATAL ACCIDENTENTS will stop Tesla drivers...dead.


SanJoseDriverSanJoseDriver - 9/9/2019 2:46:55 PM
-7 Boost
You have to tug the wheel every 30 seconds or so, it's not possible to sleep in the car unless you have a device to circumvent the system or you can sleep in a way where you are putting some friction on the wheel.

I guess falling asleep on AP might be slightly less worse than the hundreds of people that fall asleep without AP. It's a temporary problem until full AVs are available.


skytopskytop - 9/9/2019 3:29:16 PM
+10 Boost
SanJoseDriver: you state the driver must tug the wheel every 30 seconds but you are cleary IN ERROR and completely INCORRECT.

The article shows clear photos of idiot Tesla drivers deep asleep at the wheel while the Tesla roars along the highway.


LexSucksLexSucks - 9/9/2019 4:03:50 PM
+2 Boost
A cell phone on the steering wheel circumvents the need to have to touch the wheel every so often.

Check the 9:45 mark of this vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TWq00U_Pjs&t=1142s


SanJoseDriverSanJoseDriver - 9/10/2019 5:33:31 AM
-4 Boost
As someone who actually owns a car with Autopilot, you DO have to tug the wheel every 30 seconds today.

Previous versions of the software were more generous, but ever since at least mid last year the requirement has been every 30 seconds at freeway speeds. In stop & go traffic it is 3min or so.

The cell phone trick does not work (at least not in my car), an especially not on the Model X in the video which has a different steering wheel config. You can circumvent the system with magnetic weights, but they are now banned from all stores. If you're using weights, this is no different than doing something highly illegal and stupid in any car.


SanJoseDriverSanJoseDriver - 9/13/2019 3:02:26 AM
-6 Boost
The obvious answer is OLD SOFTWARE, the 30 second restriction is new.


malba2367malba2367 - 9/9/2019 2:58:39 PM
+11 Boost
Yeah that is the idea, but Tesla made the system way too easy to hack with water bottles, plastic balls etc; and their are moron Tesla owners spewing off on youtube about their ingenious hacks.


mre30mre30 - 9/9/2019 3:38:37 PM
+8 Boost
As bad as this is, I am shocked that there has (seemingly) not yet been a serious multi-vehicle accident that was caused by a sleeping/inattentive Tesla driver operating their vehicle on Autopilot.

Anybody come across such an incident? This would be an incident where people OUTSIDE of the Tesla are injured or killed as a result.

As bad as it is when Tesla occupants are injured or die when their vehicle plows into an immovable object, the accident rises to a whole new level of liability if 'outsiders' are impacted.


TomMTomM - 9/10/2019 2:35:59 AM
+10 Boost
Actually - that is the problem - it is NOT a Federal Issue. Driving laws are State issues - and the laws can be all over the place. Remember that when the Federal Government wanted the 55MPH Limit -they had to tie it to Federal Highway Funds - because the states needed to enact the 55mph laws themselves.

I would have thought by now that INSURANCE COMPANIES would have come down hard on Tesla Policies - but of course - that is why Tesla is going into the Insurance business.

In most states - the worst is a Reckless Driving Ticket - but the violation has to be SEEN by the enforcing officer.


SanJoseDriverSanJoseDriver - 9/10/2019 5:35:13 AM
-5 Boost
Today without any hacks, within 50 seconds of not putting your hands on the wheel the car will put on it's hazards and stop on the side of the road. Without AP, you'd be dead or injured if you feel asleep.


GeorgeDGeorgeD - 9/9/2019 5:12:05 PM
+11 Boost
Easy answer, suspend the driver's license.


MDarringerMDarringer - 9/9/2019 8:04:10 PM
+4 Boost
More of them need to die.


SanJoseDriverSanJoseDriver - 9/10/2019 5:36:06 AM
-4 Boost
You are a disgusting human being. How would you like it if I said you need to die? Or perhaps your loved ones need to die? Stop being such a prick.


SanJoseDriverSanJoseDriver - 9/10/2019 5:42:50 AM
-4 Boost
Sorry, that was too harsh. You shouldn't wish death on people, even if this is just a random internet forum.


MDarringerMDarringer - 9/10/2019 8:22:40 AM
+6 Boost
You fake outrage is just your hypocrisy talking. It's time for your nap.


SanJoseDriverSanJoseDriver - 9/10/2019 5:51:50 PM
-4 Boost
I think I do need a nap :/


SanJoseDriverSanJoseDriver - 9/10/2019 5:53:05 PM
-4 Boost
Also, not sure where they hypocrisy. I was upset, overreacted, regretted it, and don't wish people to die even in cars that I'm not a fan of.


SanJoseDriverSanJoseDriver - 9/10/2019 5:55:14 PM
-5 Boost
More people saved than dead. Accident rate is 50% less with AP on. There is some bias there since AP is rarely used on city streets.


SanJoseDriverSanJoseDriver - 9/15/2019 11:33:28 PM
-5 Boost
As TODAY it is impossible to not put torque on the wheel for more than 50 seconds without an illegal device, it is likely fake. What are the chances two people are going to fall asleep, in broad daylight, and not wake up to super loud beeping that cannot be turned off. Come on...


Vette71Vette71 - 9/10/2019 1:42:34 PM
+7 Boost
Official Tesla response. "Many of these videos appear to be dangerous pranks or hoaxes. Our driver-monitoring system repeatedly reminds drivers to remain engaged and prohibits the use of Autopilot when warnings are ignored. At highway speeds, drivers typically receive warnings every 30 seconds or less if their hands aren't detected on the wheel," the Tesla spokesperson said.


SanJoseDriverSanJoseDriver - 9/15/2019 11:33:42 PM
-5 Boost
As TODAY it is impossible to not put torque on the wheel for more than 50 seconds without an illegal device, it is likely fake. What are the chances two people are going to fall asleep, in broad daylight, and not wake up to super loud beeping that cannot be turned off. Come on...


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