FAKE News Or FACTS? Has The Japanese Automotive Industry LOST Its Mojo?

FAKE News Or FACTS? Has The Japanese Automotive Industry LOST Its Mojo?
I was scouring the web over the past several days, as per usual, checking out the latest automotive news. A headline stuck out to me stemming from our friends in the UK.

"Is time running out for Japan's car industry?"

Ridiculous, I thought. Honda and Toyota are two major entities that are crushing it in terms of delivering products that are moving out of showrooms. I had to click to learn more. So, I did.

Turns out there's a little twist here, folks. After reading the first two paragraphs — inserted below — you'll understand. You see, while Japan still is a dominant force it is still lacking in terms of delivering innovation.

While an unnamed executive is quoted as saying you have to go back to the 80s to find something, I refute that. The Toyota Prius was a game changer. Today? Not so much.

From there, Autocar's piece goes into quite extensive detail as it backs up its thesis.

Simply put, I wanted to ask you, the Spies: Do YOU think this is FAKE news or FACTS? Has the Japanese automotive industry LOST its mojo?



"When was the last time anything came out of Japan that was truly, globally innovative?” It was an unusual question for an executive at the very top of a Tokyo-based car maker to be asking a journalist, brow furrowed and eyes glistening with frustration at the point he was making. “You need to go back to the 1980s at least. Everything since then has been about refinement.”

These were comments born of frustration, the words of someone who had been held to task for the ever-decreasing benefits of, as he put it, “squeezing the same lemon for more juice”. Golden years had turned to steady years and now – through the lens of a rapidly changing automotive world – he was sat staring at what he summarised as little more than a trickle of opportunity...


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TomMTomM - 12/16/2019 2:16:30 AM
+4 Boost
Although Honda's current quality problems deny it - the reality is - there will always be a niche for companies that provide quality reliable cars - even if they are boring as waiting for a new Jensen. THere will always be some car being brought back from the dead that never actually makes it too.

Honda and Toyota never really brought out innovative (Maybe Except the Evs - but even GM was there first) vehicles - they brought out serviceable transportation. That is exactly what the big 3 did in the USA - before the first Gas crisis. Once you needed to have a dozen computer systems running on a Multiplexed network in a car - cars became less reliable - just as the expensive cars that originated those features were always money pits. And while companies have to spend money for the new features - and the new propulsion systems - they cannot afford to have a MISS - so they become very conservative.


dumpstydumpsty - 12/16/2019 4:07:58 PM
+1 Boost
the Japanese automakers have been basically "playing it safe" as the trends for more SUV's & trucks remain strong.

I admit that I really did expect Toyota & Nissan to increase their design efforts to pump out updated small & midsize CUV's in every category to be the trailblazers for new categories as well.

I also expected Honda, Toyota, Nissan to have taken the lead for EV development as well. Toyota had done a lot of R&D for gas-electric hybrid tech.


skytopskytop - 12/16/2019 6:12:43 AM
+3 Boost
Look at Nissan and you will see a complete absence of 'mojo.'



jeffgalljeffgall - 12/16/2019 10:10:19 AM
0 Boost
Tesla came out of the U.S. lol


TomMTomM - 12/16/2019 12:46:08 PM
+4 Boost
Our WHole Electric Grid would not exist if it were not for Tesla. (You are not talking about the car are you?)


Agent00RAgent00R - 12/16/2019 8:05:42 PM
0 Boost
The battery tech from Tesla is the best in the biz right now.

Check out Sandy Munro's comments on it...


MDarringerMDarringer - 12/16/2019 8:07:34 AM
-1 Boost
Fact

Nissan is producing class-trailing garbage. Mitsubishi is even more pathetic. Mazda is struggling to stay alive with only one model that sells well. All three are lacking for up-to-date EV products and their regular products simply aren't that compelling.

Subaru, the AMC of Japan, sells to lesbians, Alt-Left bigots, and meth-doing import-tuner boys so if any of these constituents goes elsewhere, this niche brand will be in deep caca.

Honda is steeped in ugly styling and their EVs are...oh wait...Honda isn't really into EVs.

Toyota will be OK, but even it is lacking when it comes to EVs.


valhallakeyvalhallakey - 12/16/2019 9:29:53 AM
+2 Boost
I would agree that the Prius was game changing, some of the Hydrogen based engines could be, but they seem to lack the large commitment needed to turn it into reality. In general the large Japanese car companies are very conservative and will play it safe. As someone said above... seems like they all are. It took Telsa to really get anyone else to jump into the EV space with real commitment.


valhallakeyvalhallakey - 12/17/2019 12:16:30 AM
+1 Boost
Big oil gets our tax $s everyday which supports ICE cars.


TruthyTruthy - 12/17/2019 4:27:51 PM
+2 Boost
Oil/gas and energy companies get tax breaks for research to increase yields and technology as energy to our economic well being. It is not comparable to the direct to consumer credit Tesla buyers get. The only way it would be the same is if you got a $7,500 tax break for buying an ICE car.
This arguement by fanboys is absurd.


malba2367malba2367 - 12/16/2019 10:28:40 AM
+2 Boost
The entire industry is in a crosswind. Toyota can afford to sit back and take their usual conservative approach which has worked well for them...if the EV thing takes off quicker than they calculate they have the resources to make a big investment in Tesla to get some of their tech should it become necessary. Toyota is testing the waters with a Lexus EV next year, they always are slow to introduce new tech, and make sure it is 100% developed before rolling it out to the mass market. Nissan will soldier along as a part of an alliance with Renault and probably Daimler in the near future. Honda will have a tough road forward independently..they do not have the depth of resources likely they will have to enter some soft of joint venture to develop EV/autonomous tech. Mazda will probably end up in Chinese hands soon.


ricks0mericks0me - 12/16/2019 11:52:44 AM
+1 Boost
Matt Said: Subaru, the AMC of Japan, sells to lesbians, Alt-Left bigots, and meth-doing import-tuner boys so if any of these constituents goes elsewhere, this niche brand will be in deep caca.

Does that mean that the WRX will turn into the AMX ... I can't wait!!!


MDarringerMDarringer - 12/16/2019 9:05:32 PM
-1 Boost
Get an AMX. The WRX is for boys with vestigial winkies who are overcompensating.


MDarringerMDarringer - 12/16/2019 11:20:47 PM
-1 Boost
@JizzyJizz...your name says it all. You need to look up the word racist because you have no clue as to its meaning and NO, "racist" does not mean "people you disagree with".


TruthyTruthy - 12/17/2019 4:22:29 PM
0 Boost
The Korean car companies can and do compete. They are forcing Mitsubishi, Mazda and Nissan to the margins. Their current US market share is 8.2 percent.


malba2367malba2367 - 12/16/2019 12:32:44 PM
+1 Boost
Toyota is behind most of other players in EV tech. They have the $$ to buy what they need so they can afford to sit back and play it safe for now.

Subaru will be bought out by Toyota.


dlindlin - 12/16/2019 5:18:43 PM
+2 Boost
MOJO?

My Costco combo pizza has more MOJO than your Tesla


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