France To Fine Compliant Automakers Based On An Arbitrary Emission Standard

Sounds oddly like California

Californistan
Californication

My first thought too.

True, and Californication is a great song.

Of course it makes sense...they will keep ratcheting up the fines until your choices are an EV or some minicar with a tiny engine. A similar scheme will be coming to California soon.

France, where their elected leader was molested by his teacher and then he married the old bitch pedophile. Knowing that the only thing that could be worse would be to live in a country where Fidel Castro's bastard son with a drug-addicted whore is the leader.

Welcome to MDs daily proof of being a dick.

Welcome to Hoaregg's pathetic, impotent attempt at a jab.

"I never understood wind."~ Donald J. Trump

That's the best you can do?

The full quote is more entertaining:

“I never understood wind. You know, I know windmills very much. They’re noisy. They kill the birds. You want to see a bird graveyard?
“Go under a windmill someday. You’ll see more birds than you’ve ever seen in your life.”
“I’ve studied it better than anybody I know.”

WTF, the scariest part is he doesn't drink or do drugs. He said that sober.

You and Truthy both have taken it 100% out of context. He is not saying that he does not understand wind nor is he babbling about windmills. So Truthy--ironically--created a LIE by isolating a quote to purport that the President is incoherent. And SJD, you lie as well by saying that you're giving the "full quote" because you aren't. How about just being honest rather that deceitful shit bags with TDS?

Did you read the whole text of his incoherent rant? He meandered from one topic to another unrelated topic without pause nor complete sentences. He sounded drunk. He probably was.
Of course you tRump fans think if he burps it is the Gettysburg address.
The man talks and acts like a third grader.

"So they're manufactured tremendous." ?!?
"So, the world is tiny compared to the universe. So, we have tremendous, tremendous amount of fumes and everything."
Yep, he has the best words. And he knows more about wind energy than anybody. He told us so.

@Truthy It wasn't a "rant" either. Embrace honest representation and get past your psychotic TDS.

SanJose, HE says he does not drink. He says a lot of things that are not true. Actually, most of what he says is not true.
His behavior is obviouslt6that of a drinker.

I actually believe he doesn't drink and has some sort of mental illness instead, narcissistic personality disorder maybe?

MD, I'd be pretty curious to hear what you think his point was.

I do not have time to post his complete incoherent rant. That was the most complete thought in it.

I do think Macron could be the next governor of Illinois. The state that offers a $1,750 EV incentive (at purchase) and as of January 1 will charge EV owners $1,000 annually to renew their license plate sticker.
Also, no matter the value of your trade-in, you will pay sales tax on the total price of a new car. This is beyond BS. It is estimated it will ding dealers about $1,000 per car on average.
I think Illinois and California are competing to see which gets the most of your paycheck.

Currently - Highway construction in this country is largely financed through Gasoline Taxes - and since EVs do not use such fuels - they MUST come up with a way to tax EVs for use of the roads or they will steadily lose road funding - THIS was coming all along and will have to happen anywhere they need to maintain highway systems. People who did not think it would happen are dreaming. THe people who drive ICE vehicles are not going to sit still paying for the roads - with EV people clogging them up.

A weight related Tax fails to adjust for the actual USE of the roads. Eventually - you will be taxed by the mile - which is closest to how Gas Taxes vary. In fact - I could see them doing the same with ALL cars and trucks - requiring you to have your vehicle scanned for mileage.

AS far as sales tax - the fact is - the "value" of your traded in vehicle is actually "revenue". Since dealers can and will manipulate the value of your old car - to reduce taxes - something like this is bound to happen all over the world as cars continue to get more and more expensive.

But - with sales tax and Highway taxes added - EVs become less of a solution to the problem because MOST people who cannot afford these large one time fees - will have to keep their old cars even longer than today - pushing the date of EV dominance even further into the future.

This is exactly the situation I wrote about a few days ago- it does not matter that Trump rolled back emission standards because the rest of the world is leaving us behind when it comes to better standards and car makers will engineer their cars for the world market. Gone are the days where the US gets one set of vehicles vs. the rest of the world. In order to survive car makers now have to design cars for the world market and this means meeting the stricter standards coming from the EU and China. China especially is really clamping down on emission with a heavy hammer coming in 2025. If car makers want to survive (and they do) they will ignore Trump and design for China and their nearly 2 Billion population .This means better emissions standards and less pandering to a luddite political base.

My suspicion is that France is like the UK, talking out of both sides of their mouth. In the UK after years of encouraging diesel cars they are now banned in big cities or heavily taxed...however 69% of all government owned vehicles in the UK are diesels. I'm curious what % of government cars in France fail to meet the standards imposed on the populace.

France has a right to do that if clean air is that important to them. I'm not a fan of taxes unless it is related to something that directly causes harm. I'd be willing to pay more for cocktails if it meant fewer drunk drivers.

EVs should also pay their fair share of road repairs, but it should be kept in line with the wear they do to roads. Perhaps a weight related tax would be best way to handle this across all vehicles.

I'd be willing to pay less for a Tesla if the pot-smoking heroin addict Elon was "vanished".

Pot is probably less worse than drinking for overall health and productivity. From the Rogan video it's pretty obvious Elon doesn't smoke.