FRIGHTENED: New Model 3 Teardown Reveals A Level Of Tech The Legacy Automakers Can't Match

FRIGHTENED: New Model 3 Teardown Reveals A Level Of Tech The Legacy Automakers Can't Match

A new teardown of the Tesla Model 3 by Nikkei Business Publications just sent a shiver through the spine of legacy automakers. Based on the findings of the teardown, it is becoming evident that the company’s tech is on an entirely different level compared to the electronics used by veteran automakers today, and a lot of it has to do with Tesla’s custom Full Self-Driving computer. 

Following a thorough analysis of the Model 3, an engineer who works at a major Japanese automaker noted there was just no way for other carmakers to match Tesla’s level of tech. “We cannot do it,” the engineer admitted.


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MDarringerMDarringer - 2/17/2020 3:42:58 PM
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(1) The breathy hyperbole gives this away as bullshit.

(2) Other brands want technology that incinerates people and kills them by driving into things?


Agent009Agent009 - 2/17/2020 4:22:03 PM
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Well the issue is that Tesla routinely get tech from Space X. While the automakers have aerospace divisions it appears they may not be sharing technology. There are effectively in information silos that cant share advancements. They fundamentally will have to reform their business models to survive.


SanJoseDriverSanJoseDriver - 2/17/2020 4:44:49 PM
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It might be BS, but other reports said the HW3 chip was about 4 years ahead of Nvidia, which is what other companies are using and what Tesla used for HW2. Even if they are 1 year ahead, it will still be a huge advantage as you can see from Apple dominating performance benchmarks with their previous gen chips (I'm an Android guy personally, but have to respect how well Apple is doing with hardware).

There is no SpaceX overlap that I read about for HW3, but Tesla does use materials from SpaceX including the fuse that enables Ludicrous mode. It works both ways as the Falcon 9 rock uses multiple unreleased "PLAID" motors from Tesla to open and close the landing legs.

Agent009 makes a good point on collaboration that many other companies do not do (including non-automotive companies, I see this all the time). Last Tesla investor call had an interesting story. Battery cells go into Modules, and the Modules go into a Pack. Teslas no longer need technically need Modules for batteries. You're putting a box in a box and it adds extra weight/cost and really doesn't improve safety. So why are there modules? There is a module department... that's it, that's the only reason. Tesla's solution was to merge the cell, module, and pack departments together and guess what... modules are mysteriously going away from their next gen batteries.


SanJoseDriverSanJoseDriver - 2/17/2020 8:32:09 PM
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The BetaMax was also far more expensive and didn't have as much industry support. I don't think that applies here, especially as the Model 3 and Y are still less expensive than direct competitors.


Yonder7Yonder7 - 2/17/2020 4:46:49 PM
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Agent009: agree.


supermotosupermoto - 2/17/2020 7:52:18 PM
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Quoting a "news" story from a Tesla fanboi website is like quoting the NRA about guns. There is going to be a bit of bias, to say the least.


runninglogan1runninglogan1 - 2/17/2020 8:51:50 PM
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Hate to restate the obvious but Tesla is years ahead of the competition.


malba2367malba2367 - 2/17/2020 9:01:12 PM
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They can't do it because most automakers will only specify automotive grade electronics for critical systems...Tesla doesn't do that.


SanJoseDriverSanJoseDriver - 2/18/2020 3:04:12 AM
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The level of redundancy on the HW3 chip is far greater than what anyone else is using today. Two independent power supplies and two fully redundant sets of CPUs, GPUs, neural net accelerators. Half the chip can fail without taking down Autopilot.


MDarringerMDarringer - 2/18/2020 8:46:30 AM
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Yet, you claim you don't work for Tesla....


SanJoseDriverSanJoseDriver - 2/18/2020 1:19:33 PM
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I don't, but after the last stock rally I kind of wish I did. Perhaps I would have made more money at a lower level job there after all.


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