New Toyota 86 and Subaru BRZ coming in November 2021. Does ANYONE Care?

International reports suggest the next 86 and BRZ will debut roughly 18 months after the current models are removed from sale (expected to be in July this year), and that both will ride on Subaru's SGP platform.

There were hopes a turbocharged engine would join the party this time around - the 2.4-litre Subaru engine is turbocharged in other applications - but these most recent reports suggest the BRZ and 86 will remain naturally aspirated for now.

According to earlier reports, the new model measures in at 4250mm (width), 1780mm (width) and 1315mm (height), and rides on a 2570mm wheelbase. The new models will be offered with a choice of Aisin-sourced six-speed manual, or an eight-speed automatic.

We question who really cares about this release but we could be wrong...Prove to us WHY they SHOULD bring these out?

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MDarringer - 5/15/2020 4:01:22 PM

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If it still has the shitty Subaru engine, no.

It it is still the Impreza's FWD platform mongrelized for RWD, no.

If it is still underpowered, no.

It if is still a slider rather than a handler, no.

If it is still dull looking, no.

ricks0me - 5/15/2020 5:51:37 PM

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AGENT001: If this was a : Hyundai. Kia, Audi, BMW, or MB...you never would have posted an article like this.

Matt: The car will have a Chevy LT motor
The car will have a Ford Drive Shaft & Mopar Pistol Grip
The car will have quad turbos
The car will have the highest G Force on cornering known to mankind
The car will be "grate" lookin'
The car will be in your driveway

MDarringer - 5/15/2020 6:50:43 PM

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Hardly. The GT86 is a terrible car. Poorly conceived. Poorly executed.

Agent001 - 5/17/2020 12:16:22 AM

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I just think everyone who wanted one already bought one and the interest won't be there in the numbers they need.

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MDarringer - 5/17/2020 10:36:34 AM

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And the same is happening with the Supra. BOTH are sales failures due to abysmal market placement and customer targeting.

ricks0me - 5/15/2020 9:42:26 PM

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I have the "Ricer Edition" in my driveway. Every shift is a red line. Got blown away by a Honda 150 Motorcycle.... but I made more noise !!!

MDarringer - 5/16/2020 9:39:53 AM

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What on earth possessed you to spend that much money on one?

dlin - 5/16/2020 9:48:44 PM

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https://www.automobilemag.com/news/2020-toyota-86-gt-ncm-motorsports-park-onboard-lap-video-test-drive/

dlin - 5/16/2020 9:51:19 PM

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Andy Pilgrim pushes 2020 86GT on track

MDarringer - 5/17/2020 10:37:49 AM

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A 4 cylinder, plastic-wheel-covered Camry is probably a superior track car. The GT86 is easy to bitch slap at the track without even trying.

Tarzan91303 - 5/29/2020 2:01:24 PM

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It still has some charm, but without more power they should just offer a convertible and call it a day. However I suspect it will still have a subaru engine and some sort of mild hybrid attributes. Also, I suspect Toyota has a mole at Nissan because of the timing of this on the heels of the new Z announcement. If Nissan fails to survive, then the 86 can take over that niche.