GM PR Employee Brags "In EVERY Way, Electric-Powered Cars, Trucks And SUV's Are BETTER Than Gas-Powered." Is He RIGHT? Or Time For Him To Visit A Shrink?

GM PR Employee Brags
You read some CRAZY stuff on social media and across the internet. Everytime you read something OUT THERE you think could it get ANY weirder?

Well, the answer my friends is not blowing in the wind but plain and simple. And the answer is YES!

No matter how crazy the statement, another is right around the corner.

This morning it came from a PR employee at GM about electric vehicles. Oh, there are plenty others out there but we focus on cars so this one jumped out at me.

Here is a screenshot of the post...



Now I know he works in PR but to say "because in EVERY way, electric-powered cars, trucks and suv's are BETTER than gas-powered" is QUITE a stretch. In fact, some might say for someone to say they know about cars and truly BELIEVE that statement speaks volumes about their understanding of this business. It's one thing to say I LIKE them better than gas powered vehicles but as an employee of a car manufacturer that makes A LOT of gas powered vehicles, you wonder if any actual thinking was behind the statement.

I'd love to know how in EVERY way they are better. Because they keep coal workers employed? Because they would lessen the amount of cars on the road because most people can't afford the high prices of electrics?

I'm also wondering if he's ever heard of CNG which has many advantages to electric. Oh, and btw, for less than $4500 per car, every existing car and truck on the planet could be converted to CNG. Kind of how they do it in Iran to their citizens, so they can sell all the oil they manufacture.

So Spies, tell us...Is he RIGHT about electrics or should we start a GoFundMe account to get him some free visits to a talented and qualified shrink?

Spies, discuss...




MDarringerMDarringer - 5/19/2020 11:18:34 PM
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Time for him to visit a shrink.

Some very important benchmarks still remain to be conquered: price parity with an ICE vehicle, range (close but some are not there yet), and recharge time as fast as a fill up (5 minutes and nowhere near close).


supermotosupermoto - 5/19/2020 11:56:34 PM
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How about performance? Tell me when an EV posts a time on the ring that is not terrible.

And sound? Half the fun and emotional experience of an awesome sportscar is the sound.


runninglogan1runninglogan1 - 5/20/2020 2:08:02 AM
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Is 7:23 terrible? Lol.


MDarringerMDarringer - 5/20/2020 10:32:41 AM
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That's not from a production car, but rather a facsimile that looks like a street car but is nothing of the kind underneath.


SanJoseDriverSanJoseDriver - 5/20/2020 12:39:33 AM
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Every is a strong word, for example an EV will never have better natural sound than an ICE if you enjoy the sound and vibration of a motor. Performance, responsiveness, cost of maintenance, longevity, and fuel costs, and fueling options are better today. Cost parity is just about there and EVs will become much less expensive than ICE cars over time. Even range will eventually be better for those that need/want it.

Also, CNG like hydrogen is DOA. You don't get the same performance/maintenance benefits of an EV and fueling options are not great.


carloslassitercarloslassiter - 5/20/2020 6:22:43 AM
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And sound? Half the fun and emotional experience of an awesome sportscar is the sound.
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You sound like some dude in 1920 saying he liked to hear the clomping of horse hooves.


TomMTomM - 5/20/2020 6:24:15 AM
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Nonsense

WE still have yet to even begin to develop the Electric grid needed to support even 10% Electric vehicles - and in many major metro areas - in severe weather - they already have to brown out parts of the population

The infrastructure of charging stations does not approach that of the huge number of Gasoline stations available. ANd - of course - there is the matter of the lack of 5 minute full charges - which is where it is going to have to get to - to compete with Gasoline in Long distance trips.

In addition - the cost of Electric Vehicles alone is a major impediment - since the majority already cannot afford even the least expensive NEW ICE vehicles - and EV's generally are still not that profitable at base prices (Or not at all). Cost parity right now is a DREAM for the average car buyer.

WE will be needing a Huge investment in a 3 Phase high voltage electric grid - especially in rural and close to rural areas - where it is NOT available - and fast charging systems will need it.

EV's are still another 20 years off of being dominant. (If they are ever). Studies still show that EVS are not any more green than current ICE cars - they are just moving the polution around to different countries.

ANd the current problems means that the Money needed to fix these problems is probably going to be held up - to get the economy going again.


SanJoseDriverSanJoseDriver - 5/24/2020 4:04:01 AM
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In CA there are now far more charging stations than gas stations, and that is not even including the charging stations in people's garages. Also, since most people charge at night when the grid demand is low, there is little impact for power companies. In fact, last summer CA had to dump power coming from solar since there was not enough battery capacity to store the excess energy.

I'm sure it's different state to state, but even day there are more EV stations and extra energy capacity from wind, solar, and grid storage.


FoncoolFoncool - 5/20/2020 6:39:48 AM
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When you have government mandates forcing your company to Spend billions of dollars to research, develop and manufacturer a certain type of product that 98% of your customers don’t want and refuse to purchase.

However you can’t kill the product as would be the natural thing a company would do if the product was market based not mandate based. So you spin $#!+ like a Messianic Democrat Political that mandated this fiasco in the first place “To Save The Planet for the Children!”


supermotosupermoto - 5/20/2020 10:10:25 AM
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For performance, sure Porsche Taycan is super fast on the ring, no other EV has an official time at all.

As for sound, have you ever been to an indy race in person? Moto GP? Done laps in Ferrari FXX K Evo? Seen the Blue Angels perform? I've done all of these, and the experiences would be much worse without sound.


PUGPROUDPUGPROUD - 5/20/2020 3:17:04 PM
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If this came from a Tesla employee fine, but coming from an employee of a company with a spotty EV record, dependent on ICE cars for its survival its irresponsible. Just another of the many employees at GM that should be fired.


vdivvdiv - 5/20/2020 4:38:30 PM
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Groupthink is what kills GM. They should have kept the Saturn brand to develop a viable EV division separate from the dinosaurs. Now we are at the point where they realize they don't have a choice anymore and are steering the whole ship to go the electric route. It's painful and it is ugly.


MDarringerMDarringer - 5/20/2020 4:59:04 PM
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I think GM has a culture of engineers and designers not risking too much for fear of being the scapegoat should something go wrong. So you get the Aztek because no one risked saying that what they were developing was ugly and deeply compromised. So you get the Cimarron and the Catera because no one risked saying a crass rebadge was a bad idea TWICE. So you get an entire company that is afraid of leadership. "We can't tell Johan De Nysschen anything bad because he pillow talks Mary Barra after the wango tango." "We can't say anything to Mary Barra because she's a woman and she'll play the gender token card.

The fact is that GM needs Chevrolet and Cadillac. They need to ditch Buick and GMC. The Hummer EV wills be a total clusterfuck as will the Cadillac Celestiqua.

They need to hire Alan Mulally.
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