Are African American Ford Employees Banding Together And Asking It To Stop Making Cop Cars?

I’m sure the community protection people, or whatever they are calling them, will need vehicles.

Lol if Ford keeps pushing out less than thrilling vehicles like the all new F 150, puny 4 cylinder Bronco, and completely boring Explorer, they won’t have to worry about making cars too much longer

Wake up Ford, that F 150 launch was all hype, ands you are fitting a fiesta engine to a Bronco, get it together

Btw it’s quite ironic that a couple years ago even as recent as last year, Police Officers told Ford, “I can’t Breathe”, due to the Ford Explorers letting carbon monoxide in the cabin causing them to pass out

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox2detroit.com/news/ford-motor-co-investigating-police-explorer-carbon-monixide-leaks.amp

@#2 That's all absolute drivel. Try and learn about we're actually developing or guilty of before making such an inane claim.

The only Bronco that matters is the T6 basis and we are most certainly not offering it with an engine put into a Fiesta. Neither is the CX430 Sport. Get your facts straight.

I have no idea what there is to gripe about our new F-150, considering this is standard operating procedure post 2000, to redesign an F-150 ground up (P221, P552), apply a minor mid-cycle action (MY06,'18), then redesign tophat with some carryover aspects (P415,P702), minor midcycle action ('13,'24), and then return with all new vehicle (P8XX). Rinse and repeat.

You're not going to get an all new truck after just six years. It is absolutely ludicrous to expect such a thing, when no one does that after simply 6 years in this segment. Ram DS entered production in September 2008 and barely was replaced 10 years later, and is still in production.

And as for the Explorer, I have no idea what would not be bland in this class, other than partisan whining overlooking the weaknesses of other competition. The Explorer was too expensive towards the end of development, because too many CD6 vehicles proposed were canceled/delayed and the Aviator and Explorer were left to amortize the high expenses.

Cost-cutting then had to come from somewhere, not to mention a botched Job 1 launch as a result of misplaced cockiness. It's very easy for many of you to pick on Ford for what you don't understand or simply don't care to.

Yawn...your press release just about put me to sleep....hopefully they paid you well for that lol

@Car4life1 Remember that he simultaneously works in secret engineering for Ford, JLR, FCA, and Lexus.

Lol I still think the guy is great, we just happen to disagree here haha

Okay Car4Life, I'm just saying LOL...

I am a student of automotive history and product development professional by trade.

As a historian with a social life, clearly I'm going to orientate my conversations in the area of automobiles and their past, present, and future.

A lot of us spill info between each other, provided we do not use it against each other or commit corporate espionage. My expensive Auto Forecast Solutions subscriptions, allow me to predict/identify a lot of product planning in the future across all firms.

What does annoy me is stuff that I do not find through industry or corporate channels, should be accessible to people like you and you do not undertake the effort to be on top of your game.

If you did, listening to your comments would be like a history book and enriching. They do the opposite, even if verbose and well-written.

Other than a Toyota USA internship in 2010, I have most certainly not worked for that company ever nor FCA whom I have done nothing with in my life professionally.

The only entities I am or have been associated with, once were within the same ownership pre-2008. You know that very well, but are being obtuse and catty.

Sorry Matt, I'm taken and I'm sure your wife wouldn't appreciate that. And yes, I do get around and nothing is better than a drunk fellow engineer to learn things from. ;)

Ok appreciate the post, but I’m a consumer, the Ford Explorer is a disappointing design in the most fiercely competitive market now, SUVS, and they come out with that?

The Bronco is ok, but nothing to write home about, and the F 150 put me to sleep like the lady advertised in their press release sleeping on the front seat.

And to top it off it’s dash looks no better than the current Ram, so I was disappointed.

I said what I said LOL

The only news items I have seen are from bike manufacturers who don't want to sell to the police until things change. They don't want bikes used as weapons or for crowd control. Bikes were all about police/community outreach and making officers part of the neighbourhood. I am confident things will change and police will remain on bikes in the future.

Idiocy knows no bounds in the culture of self-victimization, entitlement, excuse making, and opportunism.

Fire those employees for behavior detrimental to the company and the community.

Absolutely. If they don't get their way, they will sabotage the cars they are building.

The United States is in the middle of a moral panic not unlike the Salem witch trials or the Spanish Inquisition. Rationality has been displaced by emotion, and laws superseded by mob rule. And like those historical examples, there are the true believers and there are those who are cynically exploiting the panic to gain power. I suspect this Ford example, like most, is being perpetrated by a combination of the two—naive, misinformed dupes who have bought into the false left-wing BLM narrative and power-hungry organizers (union?) looking to leverage the moral panic for personal gain. Such behavior is never to be rewarded as it only incentivizes more nonsense.

Actually more like the “Bonfire of the Vanities” the real one not the Tom Wolfe book.

BTW, ford was one of the biggest Contributors to antifa financially. Look up for yourself on their tax return. One cannot raise a tiger as a pet, eventually it will do some scratching...

"BTW, ford was one of the biggest Contributors to antifa financially."

They tried appease the terrorists.

How stupid are you? Antifa is not an organization as much as a loose collective of idiots who hate everything. And do you really think Ford would list this if they did? It is beyond comprehension of any who does not get their news from Infowars or OAN. I am a Ford shareholder and I do not see anywhere that they have donated to "Antifa." Please, point out to me where you found this information.

The Ford Foundation made the donation not Ford Motor Company. The Foundation is the family's enterprise and has moved steadily left under its current leadership.

There is no place to make a donation to antifa. Again, show me where it is documented that Ford or the foundation made a donation to "antifa."

I'll help you out here. The Ford Foundation made a donation in 2015 to Community for Change which contributes to charities in disadvantaged communities. Some fascists at Fox labeled this an anti-trump group even though the donation was made before he announced he was running for president and it is a charitable organization.
More recently, Allen B. West an ultra-conservative conspiracy theorist claims the foundation made a donation to BLM. It is provably false.
Additionally, the Foundation has been separate from Ford Motor for over 4 decades.

Great excuse to shit can their ass and kick em out the door. Thugs like this don't deserve a good paying job (overpaid more likely) like they have here and will only be trouble makers in other areas or will feel empowered if HO gives in to this ridiculous demand and be more problematic.

Are African American Ford Employees Banding Together And Asking It To Stop Making Cop Cars?

#Defund African American Ford Employees

Woke African Americans do more to destroy race relations and the advancement of African Americans than anyone.

The cultural message is not one of hard work, intelligence, education, responsibility, entrepreneurial spirit, and measuring up, but of always being the victim, always making excuses, always expecting a handout, always being the little bitch, never doing anything wrong not even when you're a career felon high on fentanyl being arrested for the commission of a felony and resisting arrest, and throwing the race card.

MLK would have roasted those fuckers.

LMAO, you do realize the majority of welfare recipients are WHITE, despite a 400 year head start, LMAO...talk about lazy...but that’s another thread

Tell Honey Boo and Mama June to get their asses up and do something damnit!

PER CAPITA, African Americans have by far the highest use of welfare.

LOL, if your group only makes up 3 percent of senior roles in corporate America and in 2020 there are literally only 4 black CEOs in the Fortune 500 along with alarming studies done with a white sounding name on a resume receiving more than 75% call back likelihood over a black sounding name resume with the same qualifications...you do the math

Take a look around your office/management/senior levels in companies you work for and with and look how few you see, there’s the answer to your statement right there, not rocket science. LOL

And the fact that most of our parents/grandparents generations can recall signs of “whites only” posted on businesses/universities/schools all across this country in the 50’s/60’s/70’s will Ofcourse take a toll on the community

Many Black millennials are the first to complete a college education in their family and get an offer to a Fortune 500 company because their parents/grandparents simply weren’t allowed or could be victims of hate crimes just for being there

Wake Up

Ok appreciate the post, but I’m a consumer, the Ford Explorer is a disappointing design in the most fiercely competitive market now, SUVS, and they come out with that?

The Bronco is ok, but nothing to write home about, and the F 150 put me to sleep like the lady advertised in their press release sleeping on the front seat.

And to top it off it’s dash looks no better than the current Ram, so I was disappointed.

I said what I said LOL

I am very sick of 009's chasing political, incendiary content to feed into his far-right echo chamber. Is it any wonder that 00R is gone?

That being said, I strongly do not agree with this as a naturalized black-identified immigrant. Ford has a lovely legacy of excellent treatment and appreciation of their black staff dating back to Henry Ford himself.

Giving in to cancel culture and stuff like this is overboard. Many police forces need to be taught a lesson indeed, but not certainly to this degree that it hurts Ford more than them.

They aren't being given these cars for free in the first place.

hmmm...ok...if this type of demand is true. then those same employees should also be ok with the potential of layoffs due to the company cancelling multiple lofty contracts with interested law enforcement agencies around the country.

Ford isn't selling special vehicles to the noted racist organizations here. These vehicles are also going to offices with good honorable people that help protect the public too.

What are you guys talking about??? You are all missing the only important question: "Some American corporations have been forced to come to Jesus".... What color is the Jesus?

Shove your revisionist bullshit up your ass.

There will be huge backlash as everyone wants the police back after crime soars. In many cities murders are soaring (NYC up 44 %) because police are now handicapped in how they are able to handle dangerous situations. Over 400 police in NY applied for retirement last week alone.
I am reminded of a great response the London police chief gave when questioned about shooting the wrong person (who was running away) while looking for a terrorist. "Don't blame the police, blame the terrorists who have put us in this situation of having to respond to this very dangerous environment."

And there will be a round of black people accusing whitey of not providing police services to "po black folk" and the bullshit white apologists will pretend to have deep-seated racism and the shit show will continue.

Antifa and Black Lives Matter "protesters" are enemy terrorist combatants and must be killed in the war that they have declared on the USA.

There would be no downside. Black people would still just lose their shit and proclaim vicious criminals to be virtuous saints. They are laughed at now for their asinine stupidity in doing that, so nothing new there. But if letting "bodies hit da flo" keeps cities from being destroyed, start shooting, baby.

An average of one under 10 yr.old African American child per day is shot and killed in the south and west sides of Chicago. This does not include teenagers who are shot and killed or wounded, mostly innocent bystanders. Where is BLM for these kids?

Careful there, you're straying from the ideology of your captors. They will revoke your Alt-Left card if you put the responsibility for the killing of black children where it belongs" i.e. on the black criminals within that city doing it.

Where’s the KKK or White Nationalists when over 30 white people of all ages are murdered by a white male in seconds during a mass shooting? Hmmm

Oh they got quiet it’s because just like the gang violence you reference in Chicago, MASS SHOOTERS ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY are not funded by tax paying citizens like police dumbass.

You’ve got to be fucking retarded, let us know your name so we can start a go fund me to get you placed in a home

Meanwhile what's the solution to black on black crime?

Simple: Black community leaders need to stop race baiting, blaming whitey, and the police and blame their own community for letting it happen.

They need to tell charlatans like Sharpton, Jackson, Obama, Waters, Harris, Abrams, Lemon, etc. that THEY need to stop race baiting, blaming whitey, and the police and solve it by taking ownership of letting it happen in the first place.

The highest per capita abortion rate happens because they let it happen.

The highest per capita fatherless rate happens because they let it happen.

The highest per capita welfare rate happens because they let it happen.

The highest per capita same on same murder rate happens because they let it happen.

What’s the solution to white on white mass shootings?