Even Competitors Say Tesla Is YEARS Ahead. Will This Move Make It A DECADE?

The answer is NO because the S and X are horribly outdated and poorly placed.

Horribly outdated and misplaced when they have yet to find a competitor to challenge them. Volkswagen sent the E Tron and Taycan...both failed miserably...

The car is one thing, their supercharger network is another....

The S needs to be reconfigured into an S Class competitor and drop the bloated Fusion look. The X has been a nightmare from day one. Both compete with the S Class/GLS level in price only. Tesla being ahead technologically--if even that is true--isn't enough. Their products are generic, nondescript, and flavorless. Because Tesla has no idea how to create a car that goes beyond the novelty of being an EV, they aren't "ahead" of the game.

Wrong again, the Model S should stay in the lane it paved for itself as Tesla should and keep thriving.

Why would Elon turn the Model S into an S Class competitor? how did that work out for the A8, 7 series, LS, and XJ? The S Class selling more than all of them COMBINED globally

Actually, if Tesla stands still as you advocate, they will get pummeled. Although the Taycan costs more, it moved the bar of expectation for performance other than drag racing.

The S and X sales have deteriorated with the arrival of the 3 and presumably the Y. Buyers who would have gone with an S/X are going with the 3/Y because they can. It follows then that S/X need to carve upward in the market to restore sales.

The Model S has been on the market for nearly a decade...the fact that it’s still selling at all is a bonus and the replacement is definitely under development.

“Although the Taycan costs more, it moved the bar of expectation for performance other than drag racing.” Try stretching sometime before you reach....if it cost twice as much the expectation is that it will be all around better with no “exceptions like drag racing which was a fail and the latest performance S is just as quick for half the price not to mention a longer range, more practical, and access to a more developed charger network

The Tesla model range is simply maturing and developing with the Y and 3 additions outselling their larger more expensive siblings which is common since just as the X3 & 3 outsell the X7 & 7, the GLC and C outsell the GLS and S...

Your argument makes no sense

I don't doubt it's true considering Tesla's incredible pace of innovation.

I predict their lead will also include manufacturing once Giga Berlin and Austin come online.

BTW: Tesla is now worth more than EVERY German auto company combined. Lol.

I have only had autopilot for two years and when I first used it, it drove like a drunk teenager and ping ponged between the lines.

Then they rolled out a brand new neural net towards the end of 2018 and it changed everything. AP started driving quite well on the freeway, by far the best form of cruise controls I have ever used with added features line lane changes (that sometimes failed due to poor confidence or were simply too slow to use in heavy traffic).

Then my mid 2019 freeway driving was excellent, lane changes were far more aggressive and confident. Nav on autopilot was rolled out, which was NOT very good and I turned off and only turned back on once after each new release to see if it had gotten good enough to use.

In early 2020, I got the hardware upgrade from 2.5 to 3.0 (20x the processing power). This is really when things started to change. Lane changes are far better than I could do on my own in any situation, including heavy traffic. Highway driving is super smooth and pretty much flawless--again I feel like it is better than me controlling the car manually.

Later in 2020, city Autopilot was released and like all the other new features it had a rough start. It worked well but was too slow to use all the time since you couldn't go above the speed limit and it required constant confirmations.

Today, Highway AP and lane changes are amazing. Nav on Autopilot is finally truly usable. And City AP lets you go 5mph over the speed limit, is more confident, and requires far fewer confirmation. I'm now on Autopilot 90% of the time I'm driving, and that's with the current neural net.

My expectation is that Tesla will repeat the pattern above. Once the new neural net is released (the first in 2 years), it will take weeks or months to hit it's stride and once it does it will add even more functionality to the AP pool. Based on what I have seen in the past 2 years, I think it may very well be possible to go door to door in AP by the end of the year, but realistically... 6-10 weeks probably means 12-20 weeks with another 12-20 weeks of refinement. Given where it is today already, I'd be thrilled with any improvement or new functionality.

Based on that, you're not someone who enjoys cars. You enjoy appliances.

I like driving fast cars, but I'm not racing them on a track or anything. I'm a fan of technology more than anything else.

Nothing is wrong with enjoying innovation, I too like to support companies that push the envelope on tech, innovation, safety, and performance.

Hell, Benz started offering radar guided cruise control to well heeled customers in the late 90’s early 00’s and let’s not forget pioneering Anti Lock Brakes, both leaving the driver dependent on the car to figure out/finesse the situation and now ABS can be found on every car sold in America

Unrelated to the initial question put forth but may or may not apply to this discussion:

In 1977 Walmart was 5% the size of Kmart. Over the years ( think Tesla ), Walmart grew and became untouchable. Amazon appeared on the scene. Two big players in 2020. Walmart vs. Amazon

Story to be continued ...

2 long long years ahead per someone in Audi

more than a decade