Rolling Blackouts Traced To California's Reliance On Green Energy - What Is Going To Happen When EVs Are Added To This Mess?

Rolling Blackouts Traced To California's Reliance On Green Energy - What Is Going To Happen When EVs Are Added To This Mess?

When rolling blackouts darkened parts of California this month, Frank Wolak, an economics professor and energy-markets expert at Stanford University, had a painful sense of déjà vu.

Mr. Wolak was among the people who helped California chart a course out of crisis in 2001, when a poorly conceived state electricity-deregulation law resulted in frequent power shortages, sporadic blackouts, astronomical wholesale prices and market manipulation.

As Californians again experience rolling blackouts, and millions more are threatened with losing power, a warning that continues through Monday, Mr. Wolak said it was clear that “California policy makers completely forgot the lessons from the crisis…in their rush to go green.”


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Moo1Moo1 - 9/28/2020 12:56:14 PM
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Unless the get a solution going, it's going to be a mess.


Moo1Moo1 - 9/28/2020 12:56:15 PM
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Unless the get a solution going, it's going to be a mess.


Agent009Agent009 - 9/28/2020 1:24:50 PM
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I think the problem is no matter what the solution is, the environmentalists will oppose it for some reason. When you yield to everyone with a cause you stagnate.


Section_31_JTKSection_31_JTK - 9/28/2020 3:23:05 PM
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California is fubared. After decades of control by the far left, the state has an undependable energy grid. The forest are burning due to runaway growth allowed the same tax hungry liberals. Rampant growth necessitates aggressive forest fire fighting. The result is the underbrush which normally burns during lighting strikes builds up, and now when lighting hits it, we have a conflagration.

Top top it all off, the far left being beholden to the public service workers unions, has run up a massive pension benefits debt that the state is unable to pay. This looming debt crisis will surely bankrupt the state.

And now that pretty boi Newsome has banned the sale of gas and diesel vehicles after 2035, where are we going to get the money to upgrade our energy grid in the face of this debt crisis? The state is already amongst the most heavily taxed in the country. The far left idiots just proposed another soak the rich tax, where there's a tax surcharge on so-called "rich" people. The result is those rich folk are already moving out of the state. The same thing happened in Connecticut where the state didn't back down from their threats to raise taxes. The result was businesses moved their headquarters out of CT and so did the wealthy. Now CT has an even worse debt crisis than before because of a lack of revenues.

But stupidity never stopped the far left. They are single handedly destroying this country. Almost all of the worse crime ridden cities with the most violence are led by politicians from the left. Chicago just had 51 shot and 9 killed over this weekend alone. The far left is literally killing Americans.

But no. The idiots want us to vote for a guy who can barely say his own name and just claimed he has been in the senate for 180 years. Slow Joe calls a "lid" on the day (meaning no more interviews or access) almost every single day because he's too feeble to come out of his basement. He refuses to be drug tested because he's terrified that it will come out that he's being given mind enhancing drugs to make it through his public appearances. Slow Joe's running mate is the defacto potus candidate, and has called for a massive defunding of the police. She also advocates for the violent protestors that are destroying property and killing people. These vermin are the true criminals.


SanJoseDriverSanJoseDriver - 9/28/2020 4:27:10 PM
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You think Joe is worse than a president that is cheating on his taxes? That's hypocrisy at the ultimate level. They both suck to be honest.


TomMTomM - 9/28/2020 5:29:06 PM
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This is not just a California Problem - the US electric Grid simply is insufficient to handle more than about 5% of the current cars being replaced with EVs. THere are bad spots all over the Populated areas of many states that have 2% reserve capacity and the expense to replace the grid is going to raise the price of electricity dramatically. Yet - it does need to be done and it will affect many southern areas where electric heat/Air conditioning is the norm.

I have stated this fact for years here - and until we have an administration that moves to expand/replace the Grid - there will be a limit to how much power will be available to power cars. This MIGHT be a good and necessary Infrastructure project for recovery from the Covid recession (in employment)


Agent009Agent009 - 9/28/2020 5:43:05 PM
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@TomM -The Texas grid is just fine and it has clean sources and fossil fuel. It is however unimpaired with needless regulation.


MDarringerMDarringer - 9/28/2020 7:04:51 PM
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COVID isn't very strong. Supposedly it kills the old, but TomM is still alive. Clearly COVID is a hoax.


SanJoseDriverSanJoseDriver - 9/28/2020 4:31:22 PM
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EVs are already here and a decent portion of new car sales, perhaps as high as 15% during covid. I think the impact will be offset by renewables which are still growing at a fast rate, grid storage, etc. EVs are also becoming more efficient, getting more range with less juice and with batteries that allow for less frequent charging. Heck, I trickle charge mine off of a standard 120v outlet.


CANADIANCOMMENTSCANADIANCOMMENTS - 9/28/2020 5:14:48 PM
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I can't read the article but there are a few on the web. Seems to be a mix of issues.

California grid has a lot of green energy that can't help in the evening
Out of state electricity is drying up as they need it too
Evening demand continues to grow with increased temperatures
California will need to increase production somehow to meet this demand
Either store energy during the day or fire up old plants



Section_31_JTKSection_31_JTK - 9/28/2020 5:31:58 PM
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LOL there's no proof of any tax cheating. The NYT won't release the returns because it's afraid to divulge its source. We can't take the word of a paper that has been proven to lie about facts. Also the Bidens set up an S-Corporation to avoid paying more than half a million dollars in taxes they would have otherwise owed. That's on top of the millins/billions Hunter and Slow Joe got paid by the China/Russia for their quid pro quo actions on American foreign policy. But no, the NYT won't report on these things because it doesn't jibe with their political objectives.

BTW, Trump just received his THIRD Nobel Peace Prize nomination today.


t_bonet_bone - 9/28/2020 5:39:02 PM
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Solar energy = massive needs for the source nobody talks about - natural gas - between 4 - 9 PM, when energy use gets serious quickly and sun and wind disappear.


MDarringerMDarringer - 9/28/2020 6:09:29 PM
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And The Retardocrats in Sacramento are pushing Prop 15 which would dramatically increase taxes on green energy. The result would be far less investment and far higher electrical costs.

I'm praying Newsom proves that COVID is real and that he dies from it.


Section_31_JTKSection_31_JTK - 9/28/2020 6:28:30 PM
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I posted this before. If pretty boi Newsome and his far left nutjobs in charge of Sacramento want to really solve the energy issues, they'd stop taking bribes from the building industry and require solar to go on every new rooftop. But these crooked leftwing politicians are deathly afraid to cross their union supporters who take their union members' dues and stuff the cash into the pockets of their well paid off politicians.


MDarringerMDarringer - 9/28/2020 7:00:29 PM
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PREACH!

Major Williams 2022


MrEEMrEE - 9/28/2020 10:48:02 PM
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A big part of the solution could be mandated controll of end consumption, like load controllers that balance the main consumers in a house, or time-of-day control to shift consumption off peak times. Better yet would be utility control of parked and connected EV's to charge when capacity is available. Could even use connected EV's as grid storage. So EV's could allow an improved grid.


MDarringerMDarringer - 9/29/2020 8:24:42 AM
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So...Communism?


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