At Last Night's Presidential Debate Joe Biden Said HE Brought Back The Auto Industry. What's YOUR Reaction To That Claim?

Well, last night's debate was something else. If Trump was asked to describe it, he would say there's never been anything quite like it. And that would NOT be over blowing it.

The two battled, talked over and interrupted, insulted, on and on.

If you watch the tape looking to find out WHO started the interrupting, you may be surprised that it was BIDEN, who was first at the draw. And then it degraded from there.

Both made their claims but as car people one stuck out to us which is the subject of this post.

A number of times not only at the debate last night but others, Biden loves saying HE BROUGHT BACK the auto industry.

Now to be clear, this is not us for or against either one of the candidates.

Seeing the media won't call a statement like that out, we feel we should put it up for a respectful discussion.

Not that it is possible in today's society.

But we will try.

Here is an excerpt from the full transcript:

DONALD TRUMP: … a miracle to bring back manufacturing. I brought back 700,000 jobs. They brought back nothing. They gave up on manufacturing.
JOE BIDEN: We did not. [crosstalk]
DONALD TRUMP: … standard fare.
JOE BIDEN: I'm the guy that brought back the automobile industry.
DONALD TRUMP: He totally gave up on manufacturing.

Is Joe Biden telling the truth when he makes the claim 'HE brought back the auto industry"?

And if you care to chime in your thoughts of who won the debate we won't hold it against you.

MBCLS07 - 10/1/2020 1:41:43 AM

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Everyone knows that whenever Joe Biden begins a sentence with "I'm the guy that...." a lie is coming.

Dexter1 - 10/1/2020 8:10:10 AM

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I believe you are talking about the wrong candidate.

MDarringer - 10/1/2020 8:35:27 AM

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No, he has the right one.

runninglogan1 - 10/1/2020 5:44:36 AM

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He and Obama did. Fact. GM was days away - not from bankruptcy - from liquidation.

Republicans were ready to watch it all burn to the ground.

Trump was a raving lunatic in the debate. Doesn't have the balls to condemn white supremacists. Wonder why.

He's toast.

Foncool - 10/1/2020 9:17:38 AM

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Correct GM & Chrysler were days away from Bankruptcy, which would have become a Chapter 11 reorganization, not a Chapter 7 liquidation. The reason the Obama Administration stepped in to Bailout both companies was to protect their unsecured Bondholders who were made whole. The Secured Bondholders took a massive haircut on their investment, the exact opposite of what it should have been by law.

So who were the main unsecured Bondholders that were made whole? Why the UAW of course, major donors and supporters of the Obama Administration and Democrats. 15 senior UAW officials have been indicted for Fraud with 14 convictions, more are expected. https://www.autonews.com/static/section/report05.html

Obama/Biden didn’t save GM & Chrysler, they saved their campaign cash flow, by funding it through the US taxpayers.

Foncool - 10/1/2020 9:17:39 AM

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qwertyfla1 - 10/1/2020 9:40:35 AM

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How was this allowed and why didn’t the secured bond holders fight this in court if it skirted US laws? That is chilling to think a secured creditor could suck hind tit in that situation and since when did the "unionized hourly employees" become "equity partners” if they don’t share in the losses as well? The Dems really do hate capitalism unless it benefits themselves personally.

MBCLS07 - 10/1/2020 1:28:37 PM

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@runninglogan1

Trump has disavowed "white supremacy" many times. Look it up. The premise of the question is flawed as it wrongly assumes that A. white supremacy is a primary issue and B. that Trump hasn't already denounced it. It's particularly silly to focus on "white supremacy" while mobs of BLM protesters have been terrorizing dozens of US cities on a nightly basis for months, burning, looting, assaulting, intimidating, killing. It's just another example of the "Have you stopped beating your wife" logical fallacy. The opportunity to denounce racist violence should've been directed at Joe Biden to denounce BLM.

qwertyfla1 - 10/1/2020 8:44:51 AM

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Sleepy Joe is a total idiot and they didn’t save the auto industry -they bailed them out with Billions from both the Canadian and Ontario Government of which we still got screwed over with GM repayment and the Oshawa plant closure. They should of let GM and Chrysler die as the void would of been picked up by other “healthier and deserving” OEMS. People wouldn’t stop buying cars -they would of just switched brands.

The Dems only did this to win Union support & votes and the dog fuckers made very little concessions to help out their employees. This all came at the expense of the creditors and shareholders (you know the REAL equity partners) whom got completely screwed for Detroits incompetence. It was a shitty deal that boycotted US bankruptcy laws. It should never of happened.

MDarringer - 10/1/2020 8:57:05 AM

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Neither GM nor Chrysler would have died. As the case with Chrysler, there would have been a buyout. Geely or SAIC would likely have grabbed GM and production would have continued.

Foncool - 10/1/2020 8:46:21 PM

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Neither Geely nor SAIC were that strong in the 2008-2010 timeframe. No one would go near Chrysler, Obama literally had to beg Marchionne and FIAT to takeover Chrysler. Although through government loans FIAT effectively got Chrysler for free not having to use any of it’s own capital.

MDarringer - 10/1/2020 8:55:37 PM

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God you're the dumbest of the dumb. If either wanted it, China would have foot the bill.

Foncool - 10/2/2020 8:30:05 AM

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Would never had made it past federal regulators

Prefurbia - 10/1/2020 8:57:01 AM

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He bailed out the auto industry which should have been more competitive in the first place. I seriously doubt given a choice they would have folded, but instead forced renegotiation with unions and suppliers to be more competitive.

Agent009 - 10/1/2020 10:34:11 AM

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And they STILL aren't competitive

Section_31_JTK - 10/1/2020 5:34:57 PM

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Biden is full of shit. He told so many bald faced lies during the debate. It was under his watch that America off-shored so many of our jobs. Trump is the one bringing those jobs back. Slow Joe is the one who eulogized KKK wizard Senator Byrd at his funeral. That's right. He eulogized a white racist, the highest ranking white racist. Hell, Slow Joe won't even acknowledge Antifa as domestic terrorists, much less the fact that it exists. Slow Joe lied about not supporting the Green New Deal, when in fact his support for it is plain to see on his website. What I did see during the debate was that Slow Joe is a practiced career politician that can lie without so much as a flinch and at will. He grins with those fake teeth of his and asks us to trust him lol. This is the same kind of carnival barker that would sell you a used jalopy and tell you that it was driven by an old lady who took care if it like a precious asset.

valhallakey - 10/2/2020 1:25:00 AM

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I remember a lot of the right saying let em go under, we have Honda, Toyota etc... making cars here. I think they did the right thing bailing them out. We don't want to loose all the engineering skills that go into not only a car but also the manufacturing facilities etc... If we had let them al fail, yea we could still screw the Hondas and Nissans etc... together at the factory but we would have lost some critical skills we need to keep in this country. About the only other large scale manufacturing we have left is cars and airplanes. I am glad Trump made sure that Obama and Biden did go forward with the rescue. That and his landing that plane in the river... amazing person.

ctsang - 10/2/2020 12:44:21 PM

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senile creepy joe for nursing home