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2008 10Best List by Car and Driver

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2008 10Best List by Car and Driver

Car and Driver’s January issue is now hitting news stands and mailboxes complete with its annual ten best list. On the list was the BMW 3-series, Chevrolet Corvette & Malibu, Honda Accord & Fit, Cadillac CTS and others. Some are repeats, and some are new.

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xdrive_ - 11/30/2007 10:32:14 AM

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Great news for GM that the new Malibu and CTS made the list. I think they may have finally begun to turn that company around.

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Catsmeow - 11/30/2007 10:52:55 AM

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seriously...three cars made the list. I've drove the Malibu and CTS... amazing cars

xdrive_ - 11/30/2007 11:03:20 AM

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I have not driven them yet, but I'm very curious to know how the CTS handles and drives with the performance packages.

enthusiastx11 - 11/30/2007 10:52:45 AM

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good list.

CTS and malibu are newcomers that truly belong on that list. good to see some american cars that can make the cut.

and of course the 3-series and the accord belong there as they're clearly the best cars in their respective categories...

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enthusiastx11 - 11/30/2007 12:05:28 PM

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really? have you driven one? or is the entire automotive press and over half a million buyers worldwide per year just living on another planet than you?

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ThierryHenry14 - 11/30/2007 12:12:24 PM

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he has not driven a 3er, but he has driven a 2000 745, a 2005 535i, a 2006 M3, and a ... what else did you have?

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1995e34 - 11/30/2007 12:54:17 PM

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BMW is the most overrated car in the world. It’s also overpriced. When you read some tests, you think that it’s a fanatastic car. BUT NO. When you test drive it, your’re most of times deceived. And you ask yourself why some people praise this car all time ? Readers be careful when your read a BMW test and compaision. You can be sure that it wins always. But test in your self and you see the reality is something else. For the moment BMW is à la mode.

copy+paste...did you just lear how to use that?

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ICON - 12/1/2007 12:29:24 AM

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bmwpos...all right! We know you are a asian fanatic and hate BMW.

We've got it alright?

Stop hating with your inane a la mode coments that you constantly repeat...

Now back to the adults in the room...Recently drove the Malibu and CTS and was very impressed with both of them...Cheers to GM- Now nail the Volt Concept and you will be well on your way back to world class status

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M35MT - 11/30/2007 1:01:35 PMView My AgentSpace

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Not drivers cars, car and driver takes a very unbiased look at dynamics (which is why we see so many affordable cars, price IS a component!)

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JUGNU - 11/30/2007 11:21:47 AMView My AgentSpace

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wow...not one MB or Audi........

JUGNU

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ThierryHenry14 - 11/30/2007 12:14:33 PM

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Are there criteria for making this list?

because if there are, there are many ways to improve the list. For one, I think that they didn't leave anything to the imagination.

xdrive_ - 11/30/2007 12:24:34 PM

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C&D considers all new models and the previous year winners.

ThierryHenry14 - 11/30/2007 12:45:09 PM

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ok, thanks...

S4cabriofoxone - 12/1/2007 11:57:24 PMView My AgentSpace

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The C-Class and A5 are the only cars from M-B and Audi that are new for 2008.

Is it not obvious that the 3 Series would beat the A5 (it IS Car & Driver, after all, and the 335i rocks), and that the CTS would beat the C?

PlanB - 11/30/2007 11:39:52 AM

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No real surprises here. With all the praise thats been given to the CTS and Malibu its good to see them on this list.

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xdrive_ - 11/30/2007 11:55:40 AM

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7 of the 10 cars are "foreign." Sad that American cars represent only 30% of the list.

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enthusiastx11 - 11/30/2007 12:06:58 PM

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get lost. give credit where it's due. for years, the 10best list has been dominated by imported cars...and still is.

those three cars from GM are fantastic.

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Shredmo - 11/30/2007 12:43:17 PM

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I think it is a testament to the open-mindedness of the American consumer. Look at a list of 10 best vehicles sold in Germany, they would nearly all be German, even though several of these non-German vehicles are sold there along with many great non-German vehicles that are not sold in the US. The American cars on this list deserve to be here, as well, all of the foreign vehicles deserve to be here too.

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omarrana - 11/30/2007 3:08:37 PM

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Malibu and CTS deserve to be on the list... it has nothing to do with an American Publication

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GT3RennSport - 11/30/2007 11:57:05 AM

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Great to see the Malibu and CTS in that list! Both are great cars and deserve to be there! I was also happy to see that the 3-series and Boxster/Cayman models have won again! Excelent list!

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amazinBimmer - 11/30/2007 12:45:40 PM

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jugnu... no MB or audi..
audi, I understand.. i woudlnt expect them on an this vaunted list.. buti am surprised by ommission of MB. the S should have made it.

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M35MT - 11/30/2007 1:04:04 PMView My AgentSpace

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The S is impractical due to pricing.

xdrive_ - 11/30/2007 1:08:40 PM

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I believe the S is excluded from the test since it is above their base price cap.

S4cabriofoxone - 12/1/2007 11:58:46 PMView My AgentSpace

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There might be a price cap (which doesn't make sense--they should be able to choose between all cars)... but it's also because the S-Class isn't new for 2008. The A5/S5 is, but this is C/D, and the 3 Series will always win.

daytonaviolet - 11/30/2007 12:46:52 PM

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I'm glad my favorite car the 3-Series is on the list again! But I am surprised that the new C-klasse and A5/S5 aren't there.

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bimmer - 11/30/2007 1:42:20 PMView My AgentSpace

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Enough already with you stupid comments... You don't even bother to write something, but just copy and paste your same comment over and over...
Can you sustain your comments ?!

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Bill - 11/30/2007 12:58:20 PM

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What is the Honda Fit and Mazda MX-5 doing there? What's so special about these cars? The Honda Fit is a boring MPV without much competition and the new Mazda MX-5 is an inexpensive, sporty roadster that was released about a year ago.

As usual, C&D loves the BMW 3er and Honda Accord. Why no Infiniti G?

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M35MT - 11/30/2007 1:10:22 PMView My AgentSpace

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Its called best in class, dude. The MX-5 is an amazing little car, which re-invented the small roadster (w/o crappy quality or a high price).

I do agree with you on the G, but they had to make room for the CTS and the Malibu, and they werent going to pick the G over the 3. Makes sense.

Bill - 11/30/2007 8:38:56 PM

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Best in class? Then what's the BMW 3er or Cadillac CTS doing on the list? Shouldn't they pick only one car from "that class" then?

S4cabriofoxone - 12/1/2007 11:59:27 PMView My AgentSpace

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THE 3 SERIES IS THE COUPE AND THE CTS IS THE SEDAN.

M35MT - 11/30/2007 1:12:26 PMView My AgentSpace

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Mazdaspeed3 for the second year in a row! They really should not make it limited edition...it would help consumers (resale value would be higher) but it would be a bad financial move because its such a hot seller for Mazda.

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S4cabriofoxone - 12/1/2007 11:59:54 PMView My AgentSpace

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That's Inside Line. This is C/D.

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0to60 - 11/30/2007 1:29:12 PM

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Me too!

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investor27 - 11/30/2007 1:20:00 PM

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I'm a little surprised to see the Mazda MX-5 Miata on that list for 2 years in a row now. But after I did a little checking into the Mazda Miata to see what the fuzz is about, I found out that the car has been in the US market for 15 years now.

I thought a Miata is a really small car. But from the picture in the article, it looks nearly identical in size as my beloved Porsche Boxster/Cayman (my beloved Cayman S really).

The Miata can't have the same steering feel as the Porsches, because the Miata's engine is in the front and over the front axle. But the Miata only weights 2500 lbs. Can anyone share their experience with the Miata, such as ride comfort, crusing noise, etc.?

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chuck717 - 11/30/2007 2:01:32 PM

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I have owned and driven many a true sports car and for the dollar value and drive the MX-5 is still one of the ten best cars in the world at any price to have fun and nice looks in.

Shredmo - 11/30/2007 3:26:38 PM

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A good friend recently purchased a 2008 Grand Torung Miata. He let me drive it around a while and I was impressed. It handles great, good brakes, etc. This is not surprising though, as this vehicle is often used for auto xing, as well as other sorts of racing.

At 6' 4", I am a bit to large for the car, but I feel that may have made the driving experience even better. The vehicle fit like a glove and felt nearly go-kart like. I appreciated the open top highway driving experience the best though. The Stereo is pretty good witht he top down at 70mph. Nearly zero wind in the cabin at this speed. Heck, you could carry on a conversation without too much of a problem. I could enjoy a several hour highway cruise with the top down in this vehicle. Most convertibles drive me batty at highway speed, after a short while.

Htay7500 - 11/30/2007 7:00:19 PM

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SCCA uses this car A LOT. go to a local auto-x event or a track venue and you'll see lots of them practically dominating, at sometime, the course.

Htay7500 - 11/30/2007 7:01:22 PM

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its the best fun you can have.

carguy68 - 11/30/2007 1:22:41 PM

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malibu! WTF!!

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PerformanceGuy - 11/30/2007 1:22:43 PM

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Good list, but I also have to say it is odd that the G37 is not on the list, I would pick it above any of the other cars on the list. The list is just a little weird and something doesn't seem right, but oh well.

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M35MT - 11/30/2007 1:25:43 PMView My AgentSpace

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Agreed, but think about it. The new CTS is so important and was well executed by Caddy. The 3 is always going to be on there. I dont think they could have 3 cars from the same class on this list...they had to cut one of them out.

S4cabriofoxone - 12/2/2007 12:03:44 AMView My AgentSpace

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You would pick the G37 over a Boxster S? And your name is "PerformanceGuy?"

The 335i won instead.

chuck717 - 11/30/2007 1:56:48 PM

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That little Miata how many years in a row now the car just got better as it has aged, nice job Mazda!

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Shredmo - 11/30/2007 2:49:43 PM

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The Miata is a contemporary classic, similar to the 911, Jeep CJ/Wrangler, Corvette, etc. The 3 series, GTI and Accord are pretty much there too, but not quite as iconic. They ALL have been great cars past, present and presumably well into the future.

chuck717 - 11/30/2007 2:17:26 PM

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These list are all about how a person feels in each segment. Example: many can make a case for another sports car other then a Vette, but when you slide in
that drivers sit low slung start it up and cruise around it is as close as you get on the Indy circuit.
BMW just has a magic with the badge and the car for youthful young upscale people that is you feel like you are climbing up in the world.
Honda Fit it says look at me, i probally can afford a lot more car but this says i'm doing my part and with a nice reliable machine go ahead pass me up i still win the race overall i got time on my side.
Cadillac for the sure fact they made the customer feel we stuck with CTS to make it better and now the public drives it around not ashamed to be at a light with a Benz or BMW i'm on equal footing now look at me i bought American also.
Basically i like the list i think that is what it is all about not just 0-60 or a name but overall feel,MFG getting it right and nothing to be hanging your head about you can feel proud to own these cars?

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Shredmo - 11/30/2007 3:02:57 PM

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The most American I have felt in a long time was when I recently had a Vette for a few weeks at my disposal. Every day after work, I'd take off the targa top, hop in and take a nice drive into the country. I love the hearty V8 sound, coupled with the 6 speed manual. It was a great feeling. Every time you would meet someone else driving a Vette, they would give you a big smile and a wave. You know they felt it too. Several of the vehicles on this list would give you some sort of great feeling. Probably why they are one of the 10 best.

AgentOrange - 11/30/2007 4:53:43 PMView My AgentSpace

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Welcome back GM..

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Htay7500 - 11/30/2007 5:09:52 PM

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VERY good list!!!

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nozferatu - 11/30/2007 5:18:35 PM

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Why is the GTI turd even on this list? At $29K loaded, on a dumbfk would pay that much for a VW.

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S4cabriofoxone - 12/2/2007 12:08:28 AMView My AgentSpace

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And it won Automobile's COTY this year...

Obviously, it does SOMETHING right. If you can't appreciate it, don't post.

StickShiftCamry - 11/30/2007 6:55:33 PM

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They put a Mazdaspeed3 in there. I have a CX-7 w/ the same Turbo 2.3 motor, that motor isn't all that, it doesn't have any sweet spot, no emotional exhaust note, mostly drones. But, guess mazda is building better cars, cuz i abuse my CX-7, the temp. needle always stays @ the same position.

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M35MT - 12/3/2007 2:07:47 PMView My AgentSpace

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wow that's weak. The exhaust note on the speed3 is invigorating. What's your problem?

autopro - 11/30/2007 7:16:13 PM

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10 cars with the best chance of being in the service dept. getting repaired.

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Bill - 11/30/2007 8:40:19 PM

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All in favor in having Autopro banned, post here!

M53R - 12/1/2007 5:46:27 AMView My AgentSpace

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Stupid comment, just like all your comments. "Euro cars break down the momment you get them out of the dealer". So childish, get over it.

S4cabriofoxone - 12/2/2007 12:06:01 AMView My AgentSpace

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Honda Fit???

StickShiftCamry - 11/30/2007 10:17:50 PM

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See the thing i see w/ the new Accord is, they're kinda following along the lines of the new body Avalon. But the Avalon took care of that already couple of years ago.

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S4cabriofoxone - 12/2/2007 12:05:23 AMView My AgentSpace

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The Avalon is hideous. It is huge, but its designers made no effort at trying to hide it. Too many lines. Too many strange light clusters. From the moment it was introduced, the Avalon's design was confused. They can't find anything "just right."

huntr - 12/1/2007 3:28:36 PM

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It is nice to see the three series made the list once again. I have lost count but this car has been on this list for around 15-16 years straight. If any of you do not believe the three series is a great car you should test drive one before posting. And yes it is GREAT to see some AMERICAN cars on the list.

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S4cabriofoxone - 12/2/2007 12:02:19 AMView My AgentSpace

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Great list this year. I agree with almost all of them.

"Almost," you ask? Not sure about the Corvette. It just has never done much for me. The older (REALLY old--'50s and '60s) ones have, but currently it seems like a mid-life crisis on wheels to me. How can it share the list with the Boxster? How can the Malibu and the Accord both be here? Are there any classes, or do they just pick these cars at random?

How many years is this for the 3 Series? And for the Accord?

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S4cabriofoxone - 12/2/2007 12:04:11 AMView My AgentSpace

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AND the GTI and Mazdaspeed3 are both on there! This is a little strange. Did they do all that on purpose? LOL!

M35MT - 12/3/2007 2:10:06 PMView My AgentSpace

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why do you hate to admit it? what's wrong with appreciating GOOD cars, and hating BAD ones? The badge shouldn't matter, if you're a real PERFORMANCE, not BRAND enthusiast.

S4cabriofoxone - 12/3/2007 9:05:40 PMView My AgentSpace

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I agree. The "I hate to admit it" caught my eye. What's wrong with Mazdas? They're the Japanese VWs.

alexdethier - 12/6/2007 6:09:34 PM

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someone's getting kickbacks because if you've ever driven a chevy malibu, as i've unfortunately had to, you know that that car should not be near the top 10... ever!

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