2008 DETROIT AUTO SHOW: The Spies Pick The Top 12 Cars That Stole the Show

I agree, the two Toyotas are bland as hell.... nothing of interest there... just a Jacked-up Camry wagon that one thing is.... Now that Cadillac Coupe WOW!!!!!! Sign me up!

— atomicbri (View Profile)

Posted on 1/18/2008 12:07:08 AM | | Votes: -3   

Yeah that Venza really got my blood churning.(Not) BTW, I want that Fisker!

— no1listensanyway (View Profile)

Posted on 1/18/2008 12:21:25 AM | | Votes: 2   

If we take out the Toyotas, drop the Caddy and Dodge
They are from the Lee family of design
Ug-lee and Hasti-lee
DrFill

— DrFill2001 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/18/2008 8:23:46 AM | | Votes: -13   

To GoObama...

Fisker is already producing cars. They are established in Europe, I'm surprised you haven't heard of them. They are a European firm that outfits Mercedes SL Roadsters and BMW 6 series coupes/convertibles with custom body work, wheels, engine and suspension tuning, custom hand crafted interior, etc.

Mechanically, the cars are BMWs or MBs, so it's not like you're buying from some start-up company. It's not comparable to a Delorean at all. Fisker is sort of like a Carlson or a Ruf, if you're familiar.

— pushrod27 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/18/2008 11:48:31 AM | | Votes: 2   

Spot the coincidence: two Toyotas that don't deserve to be included on the list and every photo is sponsored by one of Toyota's subsidiaries.

— bitschaser (View Profile)

Posted on 1/18/2008 2:26:31 PM | | Votes: 1   

Pilot?

— pacotacolol (View Profile)

Posted on 1/20/2008 10:36:22 PM | | Votes: 0   

Huh?

— DaHarder (View Profile)

Posted on 1/18/2008 2:20:48 AM | | Votes: 10   

Lamborghini is owned by Audi/VW you moron. That's a large company. Ferrari is owned by Fiat. Another large company.

Furthermore, how exactly are these cars relics? Lamborghini just posted its best year EVER and is set to release a car that retails for $1.4 million.

New Ferraris are nearly impossible to get. Even if you have the money, there is a two year waiting list for new cars. Ferrari's profit margins exceed those of Toyota.

The LF-A and GTR promise to be great perfomers, but their primary selling point is value, compared to Lambo or Ferrari. People still desire and aspire to the real thing. The LFA hasn't even been released yet.

If you know as much about politics as you do about cars, then you are doing Senator Obama a tremendous disservice by using your wit (or lack thereof) to champion his cause.

Dumbass.

— pushrod27 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/18/2008 12:01:17 PM | | Votes: 1   

junior Obama, I'll bet you've never seen a Ferrari and Lamborghini in your life!

And I'll bet you don't even like a good Chestnut Panettone ;-)

— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/18/2008 1:43:24 PM | | Votes: -2   

Please back up the deboosts. Im guessing though they're mainly from uneducated , non-projective people. No words need to be said about audi. They are definately going to lead the industry in this decade and beyond. Prime examples of the future can already hold up as evidence, one step ahead of the other germans. Audi was always about envisionment and contemporary sophistication, unlike the other counter-cars.

Mr. Daharder, Huh?

— EnvyofyouRS5 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/18/2008 2:42:16 PM | | Votes: -5   

My, "Huh?" was directed solely at the unintelligibility of your statement (1/18/2008 2:13:23 AM) as typed/structured.

Nothing More... Nothing Less

— DaHarder (View Profile)

Posted on 1/18/2008 6:54:36 PM | | Votes: 9   

"The days when the small shop company can build great cars and stay alive are OVER."

Two words:

Porsche

BMW

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 1/19/2008 2:51:06 PM | | Votes: 0   

Are you thick? Porsche is still a low-volume company, no matter how much money they have. They are only extremely profitable.

BMW is still a luxury automaker. They are just like Porsche, but on a larger scale.

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 1/21/2008 1:20:31 AM | | Votes: 0   

Does Toyota pay you? If not, you should calm down. Why does their success excite you so much? It's supposed to be about the cars, man. Exciting, visceral cars. Not boring "small-midsized CUVs" Why does that excite you?

Drop Dead.

— pushrod27 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/18/2008 12:06:04 PM | | Votes: -3   

Once again, someone without anything productive to add the conversation resorts to personal attacks.

I make no bones about my love for Toyota. I do not disguise it, apologize for it, or use it to knock other brands.

When Toyota comes out with amazing new products like the Venza and A-BAT concept, Autospies lights up with venomous attacks on Toyota. I will be a voice of reason throughout, expressing my opinions regarding the brand, not based on emotional outcries, but on solid evidence.

"Exciting, visceral cars" indeed. The problem with this site is that too many posters try to push their own vision of what a real car enthusiast is down other people's throats. So let's have no posts on anything other than muscle cars, European exotics and aspirational toys that only 5% of the public is buying. Let's just ignore the importance and worthiness of everything else. No more posts about Tundras, Malibus, CR-Vs. Hallelujiah.

— 1970toyotamarc (View Profile)

Posted on 1/18/2008 1:51:29 PM | | Votes: 0   

"The title of the thread was ...STOLE the show."

You're right, and the Venza did NOT.

It is an attractive, uninteresting new crossover. Everybody else has been releasing cars just like it. It's nothing new, nothing special. People weren't flocking to the Toyota booth get a look at THE SEXY NEW VENZA!!!

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 1/19/2008 2:53:59 PM | | Votes: -1   

1970toyotamarc:

"The problem with this site is that too many posters try to push their own vision of what a real car enthusiast is down other people's throats. So let's have no posts on anything other than muscle cars, European exotics and aspirational toys that only 5% of the public is buying. Let's just ignore the importance and worthiness of everything else. No more posts about Tundras, Malibus, CR-Vs. Hallelujiah."

excellent observations!

the funny thing is, i'd guess some 90 - 95% of the fanbois advocating the cars only 5% of the general public buys, CAN'T afford them themselves!

it's OK to aspire to certain cars. but immature and idiotic to denigrate those who do not share the same enthusiasm and are MORE REALISTIC in their car choices/aspirations.

— XYZZ (View Profile)

Posted on 1/20/2008 5:31:45 AM | | Votes: 1   

OH MY GOD!!! A 2.7 liter 4 banger with 190 whole horses, you say?

That excites you?

— pushrod27 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/18/2008 1:44:46 PM | | Votes: -4   

Great point, DrFill. That engine is going to be very significat over the next several years, I am EXCITED, yes pushrod, EXCITED, to see the hp, emissions and mpg of this one.

— 1970toyotamarc (View Profile)

Posted on 1/18/2008 2:03:46 PM | | Votes: 0   

I apologize young lady. I will try to be more tolerant of your perspective.

— pushrod27 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/18/2008 3:14:37 PM | | Votes: -4   

I know that by calling someone a lady you intend to be disrespecting them, but it only speaks to your ignorance, immaturity, misogyny and lack of intelligence. As in this enlightened age we know that a woman is equal to a man, that is no insult, and were I of the kind to resort to ad hominem attacks when I run out of logical arguments or points of view, I would undoubtedly call you a neaderthal for thinking that would work as an insult.

What rock did you crawl out from under?

— 1970toyotamarc (View Profile)

Posted on 1/18/2008 6:02:27 PM | | Votes: 5   

Lesson in Feminism from 1970toyotamarc....YAWN

— Star (View Profile)

Posted on 1/18/2008 7:08:26 PM | | Votes: -9