2008 NEW YORK AUTO SHOW Acura Releases First Official Photo Of The Next TSX- Enough To Stop The Slide?

Not Horrible, But Shows Far Too Many Accord Influences...

— checkNbalance (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 1:09:42 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 9   

just change the grill, the rest looks promising

— ericisamazing335 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 1:10:54 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4   

The grill's here to stay, at least for this Acura generation.

I agree, that in this view, it's not a complete disaster, nor is it a head turner.

— DaHarder (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 1:15:09 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4   

The grill is the weakest link...goodbye.
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— TauronB2G (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 1:15:29 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4   

I think Hyundai Genesis looks much better than any Acura line-ups.

Like the commercial says:
"Think about it"

— MrGunFun (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 1:17:13 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 7   

to stay alive acura need to delevop a real head turner that looks good

— ILikeLambo (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 1:47:39 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Aftermarket grilles ought to be great sellers for this car. Still need more info on powertrain, transmission. Hopefully they did better than the RL.

— klipprand (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 1:52:11 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4   

Very sad. Seems the bean counters at Honda have taken over Acura.

— Dr550 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 1:56:37 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

Another blander, forgetto mobile. No style. Let me guess every Acura is going to look just like in small/medium/and mini-large sizes now huh. Is everyone at Honda blind?

— Mercedes (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 2:00:30 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4   

If this car is another Fwd then Acura should kiss goodbye to its sales. Its like a fully loaded accord except for that grill. I am disappointed by acura and honda new design direction. They both Suck

— M3owns (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 3:00:48 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Being nothing more than the European spec Honda Accord just isn't going to cut it any longer -- especially with that grill.
And being FWD.
At least it didn't hit the same amount of ugly branches falling from the tree like its big bro, the RL.

— Bored (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 3:02:57 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

I hope that SOMEBODY from Acura is a member of Autospies.com (among other sites) to see what REAL people think about their latest designs (if you can call them 'designs').

Maybe the best thing for Acura to do would be to limit production on all models and focus their resources on FINALLY creating a TRUE 7/LS/S competitor in terms of beauty/size/RWD/V8

On a final note, Honda cars can get away with demure, subtle designs since they are created for mass appeal. Acura, on the other hand, should be cross shopped with the big marques instead of what I see people cross shopping it with (the Hyundai Genesis).

All Acura needs to do is step up or let Acura fade slowly and introduce a large Honda sedan slotted above the Accord (A'la Avalon sized) and give it a V8, RWD/AWD, revolutionary - yet classically proportioned beautiful design, and at a price that undercuts the Infinity M, Mercedes E, BMW 5, and Lexus GS. While it undercuts their price... it should be the same size as the flagships of those aforementioned brands. (Sounds like the Genesis way right? LOL)

Do something Acura!!! We miss what you used to be in the early 90's - Legends in time.

— aeyjay (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 3:51:08 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4   

That looks pretty good to me. Nice evolutinoary design.

JUGNU

— JUGNU (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 6:06:55 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

I'm still not wild about the grille, but this looks WORLDS better than the RL. Promising anyway. They should bring the wagon version over here as a TSX hatch....and put the turbo4 from the RDX in it....and SH-AWD.....and then we'll talk!

— finishline (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 7:32:17 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

Not that bad looking.

— david999 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 8:15:15 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

Suppository on wheels!

— kpaxx (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 9:23:27 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

Not as horrid as the RL, but those grilles are definitely gonna cut into sales, not to mention the whole FWD architecture is not whats in for luxury or entry level luxury anymore. Heck even Buick understands that now. Seems like Acura has a new competitor since it does not go against the big boys. I'd say Lincoln or Mercury.

— Whelan (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 9:26:09 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Its better looking than the RL. But its still too little too late with no real gain over a fully loaded Accord.

— PlanB (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 9:30:00 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

Does anyone remember "The Brady Bunch" movie. Mike Brady designed everything to look exactly like his house. Well it seems there is a Mike Brady designer inside the ranks of honda, cause everything they do seems to look almost identical to all their other designs.

— montyz81 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 10:00:55 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Much better than the RL, but it still doesn't do much for me. Too much Honda.

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 10:25:46 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

this will only sell based on price point. just like the current TSX, people think they are getting luxury for under 30K

— 2ndbimmer (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 10:31:53 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

Not too bad, BUT that grill has to go. It's a lot better looking than the newly tweaked RL.

— richard112360 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 10:36:43 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

I am very disappointed in the 09TSX. Don't get me wrong, it is a nice design and I am sure a very nice car! The design is however, too conservative. The only brand that can afford to be evolutionary is BMW. In order for Acura, Infiniti, Lexus(although to a lesser degree) to be competitive, they need to be more revolutionary then evolutionary in each redo of each of their models. Case and point is the G35. Although it has received some great reviews and still a very strong contender in it's market, it has been blasted for its evolutionary design, and I agree. This market is way too competitive to be conservative. The market I refer to is the luxury brand market, and not just entry level luxury. I get the fact that it is a slippery slope. In a slide situation which Acura is in, how do you move forward. Stay conservative or hang it all out on the line. Infiniti managed to hang it all out on the line with the first gen G35, and boost the brand image. I think it's time for Acura to do the same. I believe they would be successful because people still have a very positive view of the brand in terms of performance and luxury. Now is the time for them to really stick their necks out and it seems they don't want to take that chance!

— montyz81 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 10:40:47 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 5   

Not bad some good, but is it going to get the buyers blood boiling ( which Acura needs) don't think so?

— chuck717 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 10:43:34 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

I don't get why ppl are bashing acura so much. I think the grille looks fine, like the one in the TL. And where are ppl getting a link in the design to the Accord, the Accord is much bigger in size (NA market) and the design of the headlamps and body are completely different, the only similarity is probably the angular design, which is an Acura/Honda design trademark and has been for all it's life, even the TL is full of angular and linear design elements. For me the TSX looks great, although i don't think it has enough to compete with the leaders of the pack: the CTS, G35, 3 series, and to some degree the IS. But anyway looks like a decent car and should fulfill the needs of Acura buyers.

— farabira1 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 10:45:01 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Not bad, but could have been much better.

— M53R (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 11:04:36 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

When the first TSX came out it was a winner, had all the offerings you get with a luxo car but at a very fair price.

What will boggle me is if they do not offer AWD in the TSX and TL. The TSX uses the same 2.4L from the Honda Element so it would not be hard to drop in the system.

My other gripe is the fact that the Type S has become nothing more than a suspension and badging upgrade. They give it wheels, side skirts, badging and exhaust and think it is some souped up performance car. We all know Honda can do better than this. So why not make a screamer and drop in a turbo or high output engine to go with it. Instead of 268hp in a Type S TL, why not bring it to the 300hp mark of the RL. And for the TSX, heck, why not cram the S2000 motor in there and give it a bump to 260hp. Although cars it competes against will have more HP #'s its a step in the right direction.

They also shot themselves in the foot when they stopped offering the RSX. I know the new Civic Si is now what the RSX used to be, but who cares. They sell glorified Accords, why not glorified Civics. They call them CSX's in Canada. I see no issue in having updated the RSX, it was a HUGE seller, when I worked for Acura in 06, we still were taking orders on RSX's and could not keep them on the lot, even when they were pre-owned, sold before we got em.

A few things Acura needs to do if they are looking to get in the ring.

-RWD (being the biggest)
-AWD or SH-AWD on sedans
-Type S versions with bigger power boosts
-Less look alikes to their Honda breatheren.

Cause let's face it, their cars look very very similar to Honda's. At least Lexus has some facial appearances that set them apart, as does Infiniti. But Honda is very much like Lincoln and Mercury right now where there upper echelon cars look way to similar to their bread mobiles. The TSX is literally the European Accord with a few extra trimmings. The TL is based off the Accord sold here in the US, as is the RL. The new RL looks a lot like the new Accord, and the TL used to definitely be a great car, but their updates seem to leave out things people are looking for in this type of car.

— Whelan (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 11:08:52 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 5   

Is it me or does new TSX look somewhat like a Toyota Camry?

— Tonee (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 11:25:44 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

Not as aggressive as the sport4...dissapointing

— ozibala (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 11:36:27 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

I think version #1 had a crisper look to it.This version 2 is looking too generic and bland. This is what happened to Nissan. They started to get too conservative with their mainstream cars and nearly went bankrupt.Acura needs-More dynamic styling,a luxury coupe,a Z4 Boxster fighter,RWD or stictly AWD on all models,V6 engines with V8;s for the RL and TL.If they do not start doing this Honda will simply have to shut it down.There is too much competition from Lexus,Infinity and soon to be Hyundai.

— mini22 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 11:42:33 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4   

Looks like a face-lifted Honda Civic with some Mazda thrown in.

:-(

— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 11:43:24 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

TSX looks similar to the Chevy Malibu

— Loki123 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 11:50:03 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Out of curiosity, what do you guys drive? Have any of you actually driven a TSX, TL, or any Acura? Judging by the posts here most of you haven’t a clue about Acura. Acura may be dead in the eyes of some “enthusiasts”, but not the consumer. This TSX and the next TL will sell like hotcakes.

— 06TLDude (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 12:38:44 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

I have 05 Tsx, bought it brand new, no problems to speak of, great car and looks amazing. This new tsx looks like a honda, just looks boring imo.
My sisters bf has the 06 TL, great car drove it numerious times, looks amazing and sporty, im sure they ae going to f* up with the tl as well making it look like accord on steriods and exhaust tips.

They should of stayed with the current models, changed thei looks just a bit, makign them look more agressive and they would of dominated the market if the prices lowered or at least stayed the same.

— Kiriller (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 1:10:06 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Is it just me or does the older TSX look better? I think it looked more aggressive(and while not a head-turner, it was quite elegant and had rave reviews). Have to see more to comment but one thing is for sure. The grill HAS TO GO!

— gasguzzler (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 1:24:18 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

grill looks like a saturn aura...

— cl0wn (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 1:47:37 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Personally, I've driven all the models. The TSX is nice but seems it could benefit from some oomph.

As for offerings, a S2000 variant for Acura would be nice. Don't stop making the car, just give it some crisper lines, a mouth like an Acura and some edges tails and headlamps. Then you will have a nice Z4 fighter.

Offer a convertible coupe. Take the TSX, make it two doors and chop the top.

— Whelan (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 3:36:49 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

i think it looks fine
just change the wheel and tire package

— maximafan1 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 4:58:42 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

I don't know what it is about the car, but its just not right...

Honda's designers seem like they are just dropping the ball on the whole acura line up...

— ThierryHenry14 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 5:43:18 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

love it

— senorgato (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 8:15:24 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

This really isn't bad looking. The only concern is that solid chrome bar across the grille. I'm thinking this might look better in person.

— lexusis350 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 8:35:38 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Acura, stop making such ugly cars.

— bmwfan1513 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 8:44:23 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

This is not an exact copy of the Euro Acccord like the haters have stated the front is pointier and overall the side profile is more aggressive. Definetly looks as good if not better than the IS, G and 3.

— mikeydred20 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 9:28:48 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

"I owned a '92 Vigor and a '96 TL. I have driven a 2004 TL quite a few times" Who cares this is 2008 and last I checked in the 90's Audi wasn't nothing great to look at either with their ugly boxy design theme and the gas peddles that stuck. Better to lead than follow huh!

— mikeydred20 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 9:53:45 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

Im looking foward to the diesel option though.

— Htay7500 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/11/2008 9:53:54 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

I agree with many on here regarding Acura's "almost there but not quite" consensus. If Acura is to survive it has to break away from its Honda counterpart and have its own LOOK. Funny thing is, the last generation Acuras influenced current Honda designs. Now current Honda designs are influencing Acura...hmmmm?

If Acura does not break away then most consumers will think, "Why am I going to pay more for an Acura, when I can get a Honda?".

— Porschinator (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2008 12:29:00 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Anyone else miss the Acura Legend? =)

— Porschinator (View Profile)

Posted on 2/12/2008 12:29:38 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

Nothing. They are doing nothing. The TSX gets bigger in every dimension(READ: heavier) - and retains basically the same engine! The difference being that it loses a few HP and gains 8LB-FT of torque.
What happened to the promise of a turbo 4, or SH-AWD, or the diesel for that matter?
What you end up with is a $30k FWD car w/a 4-cyl engine and is marked with the descriptor of "sporty".

The Acura grills are getting out of hand as well. 1st on the MDX, then on the '09 RL, and now on this. The called the grill on the new RL a "Double Plenum Power Grill"...seriously.

I've driven an Aussie Accord - basically a TSX, and it wasn't too bad especially for a FWD.

The RL('05-'08), however, is a huge disappointment. After having to sit through a presentation describing the car's sporty nature and superior AWD system, I finally got the keys to a new RL and took it out for a spin. Sure the AWD system (grip) was OK, but it couldn't make up for the massive body roll. No low end oomph from the 290 horses - typical Honda. It felt geriatric and I couldn't wait to get out.

— ElSparquito (View Profile)

Posted on 2/14/2008 12:56:47 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1