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2008 Villa D'Este Photo Gallery: BMW Out Foxes Audi's R8 And Others With New M1 Concept?
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2008 Villa D'Este Photo Gallery: BMW Out Foxes Audi's R8 And Others With New M1 Concept?
Well, it looks like Audi won't have much time to rest with their new R8 as it looks like BMW is getting ready to fire its gun with a production version of the M1 Concept they showed at the 2008 Villa D'Este.
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M1 or R8?
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IS3andME
- 4/27/2008 12:47:19 PM
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Looks great. I like the long low shark look. It gives it a sinister look. Now, what engine will it use, and will BMW still come out with a SL competitor? I see this M1 sitting at the top of the range above the M6, and possibly with either a bi-turbo V10 or a tuned version of the 6 liter V12.
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C63AMG
- 4/27/2008 11:53:26 PM
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R U Kidding? That thing looks like something out of a bad 1980s sci phi flik like TRON.
No style at all.
farabira1
- 4/28/2008 1:19:22 AM
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Hate to mention it to you, but it looks like the cars in the old 80s sci fi movie that my dad used to watch.
And besides it was designed to look retro, because it is a tribute to BMWs only Supercar the M1.
If BMW decides to put a 20th century M1 into production, they won't make the mistake of creating another Z8 with this car.
And a silly article really, why compare a state of the art modern design like the R8 with a memorabilia for celebrating BMWs past. Frankly i like the R8 way more.
kthor
- 4/28/2008 4:55:58 PM
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This M1 Homage Concept is magnificent! I love every angle. It's a beautiful combination of a super-car wedge and BMW's chiseled, muscular design. While being stunning among today's cars it is a very direct interpretation of the original 1978-81 car. Nearly every detail and proportion have been captured in the new car.
KZ258
- 4/27/2008 12:54:53 PM
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this thing looks computerized and horrendously ugly. R8 all the way for me unless the GTR is put into the mix
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Notjustlex
- 4/28/2008 11:14:27 AM
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the wheels are horrible and the body is a very poor attempt. Not impressed, I usually like most BMW designs.
alsarea3
- 4/27/2008 12:58:18 PM
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It's remind me to the Z8 ..
Just another Ugly BMW ..
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MookGmbH
- 4/27/2008 1:00:57 PM
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Yay! No Bangle butt!
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1995e34
- 4/27/2008 1:02:49 PM
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while most details on this car can only be described as over the top and silly, it has some GREAT proportions that pay respect to the original m1.
the wheels are a horror show on a good day. most, if not all the details need heavy refining by the design deity himself chris bangle.
i LOVE the idea of a mid engined bmw, or even an ACTUAL sports car for that matter. as much as i like the m5/m6/m3, they are all based on sedans. NONE are genuine sports cars.
and to answer the question, i would absolutely take this (when refined and bangled) over the R8. and possibly even over the f430/lambo offerings.
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stash84
- 4/28/2008 4:30:55 PM
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over the r8??? no way !!
dimitri_010
- 4/27/2008 1:02:54 PM
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brilliant! amazing! unmatched!
way to go BMW u just dumbed downed the idea that you were actually on the right design track. ;)
just kidding...it looks ok, in my mind it needs work still which im sure it will go through. Look better than the R8? i doubt it as this doesnt look as revolutionary as the R8 did when it debuted, but a decent step towards making a supercar anyways.
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cdoke
- 4/27/2008 1:03:25 PM
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At first sight yesterday I thought this was cool and rather interesting, but then someone pointed out something which forced me to look again. They said it looks dated, as if it is a concept from the 90's. Looking particularly at the rear 3/4, side views, and wheels I must admit that I agree.
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1995e34
- 4/27/2008 1:14:47 PM
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i'm thinking lister storm, perhaps
cdoke
- 4/27/2008 1:50:12 PM
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I really don't mean that it looks like a specific concept car, simply that it looks as if it is a concept car from that era.
cdoke
- 4/27/2008 1:59:59 PM
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Not that it doesn't bear more than just a passing resemblance to more than one car of the time.
autopro
- 4/27/2008 1:03:43 PM
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This car looks like crap,better redesign quick!!!
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FerrarisR4me
- 4/27/2008 1:17:23 PM
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That looks amazing... a little too much like a Lotus Esprit, but still looks great.
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Brembo
- 4/27/2008 1:19:18 PM
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mean looking.
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M3owns
- 4/27/2008 1:22:50 PM
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is this another collaboration between lamborghini and bmw or is it just bmw?
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cyco
- 4/27/2008 1:28:46 PM
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The R8 looks much better in my opinion. I hope the insinkerator designed wheels don't make it to production.
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jeffgall
- 4/27/2008 1:30:23 PM
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1987 called. It wants its concept car back.
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kthor
- 4/29/2008 8:30:40 PM
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Some of you guys should have looked up the definition of "homage" before you rip on it for having a retro flavor. This concept M1 is a showing of respect for the original M1 from 1978. The details you are whinning about come from a thirty year old car. Look at the original and then go back to the concept...it is brilliant.
GermanNut
- 4/27/2008 1:31:02 PM
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Don't worry Audi has been preparing their R8 for the M1.
Later this year, the R8 is coming with a twin-turbo V10 with 570 horsepower. courtesy of the RS6
With a 0-60 time of what is likely to be 3.5 seconds and 0-100 in 8.3 - 8.5 seconds the R8 should not have any problems dealing with the M1.
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1995e34
- 4/27/2008 1:42:36 PM
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how will they deal with their fwd handicap?
S4cabriofoxone
- 4/27/2008 2:15:48 PM
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1995, I know you're a little biased, but don't turn into a fanboy. That is one retarded thing to say.
1995e34
- 4/27/2008 3:52:51 PM
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i only give audi a hard time because i believe they are capable of better. i am extremely grateful for them bringing the r8 to market, as i think it will motivate bmw to get off their butt and offer a sports car again.
my comment was 2 parts tongue in cheek, 1 part serious. i do honestly believe that in the land of mid engined ballerinas, the purity of rwd is second to none. i don't think Baryshnikov ever performed on all fours.
my comment was also a response to a 0-60 time being cited as a reason for one mid engined exotic being better than another.
i do instigate, sometimes. i can be a punk, if nothing else (but never a fanboy!).
S4cabriofoxone
- 4/27/2008 4:55:16 PM
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I don't think it can get much more balanced or tossable than an AWD mid-engined eight-cylinder manual gearbox sports car. The R8 has nearly perfect handling, or so I've read.
bmwdrvr
- 4/28/2008 8:43:30 AM
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but obviously peoples perception of the R8 are very different, to some mags thats say its ugly, and doesnt drive or perform like a true sports car in the way the 911 does, to the R8 winning a comparison between it and the 911 so to say this car is the end all be all that many here are making it out to be are dead wrong. i would give more credit to the GTR than the MIXED review R8, because the GTR always impresses where as the R8 does not.
henbmw
- 4/27/2008 1:43:49 PM
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Definitely some serious potential there. Can't wait to see how this beast progresses...
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GermanNut
- 4/27/2008 1:46:40 PM
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The fwd handicap will be dealt with by having a mid-engine design and taking a car that is already one of the best handling cars you can buy, and giving it horsepower and torque that will allow it to be right there with Porsche's 911 Turbo not only in the handling department, but also in the straights.
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1995e34
- 4/27/2008 1:50:17 PM
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but the bmw will be rwd.
8000rpm
- 4/27/2008 1:49:04 PM
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How Nostalgic!! It's the VECTOR car reborn!!
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kthor
- 4/29/2008 6:40:54 PM
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It's a BMW M1 reborn. Do a little research on the M1.
S4cabriofoxone
- 4/27/2008 2:16:56 PM
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It looks interesting, to say the least, but how can you compare a car that is so obviously a concept to the R8? There is no way something like that would make it to production.
And yes, it looks like it's from 1992.
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huu76
- 4/27/2008 2:28:22 PM
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OK, BMW outfoxes Audi by coming in second. Alright.
Leave it up to Bangle to steal old designs and hope no one remembers. The rear hatch looks like it came off of an old Hyundai Pony.
I never realized how ugly the old BMW's were either.
It's difficult to believe the 8 series is related to these crapboxes.
BMW should sue Chevy and Chrysler for copying and putting its headlights on the Camaro and Challenger.
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EL34
- 4/27/2008 2:36:55 PM
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Hey this is a computer animated drawing and I will wait to see the real concept before I pass judgement.
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_43LE
- 4/27/2008 10:11:20 PM
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Just imagine if this concept were from an Asian manufacturer. We all know what your thoughts would be then.
8000rpm
- 4/27/2008 3:01:56 PM
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...Do they expect to be grating cheese on those wheels?
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kthor
- 4/29/2008 6:42:52 PM
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The wheels are an interpretation of the originals from 1978. Do some research before you speak.
TimE
- 4/27/2008 3:09:52 PM
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This is just a HOMMAGE Concept - a tribute to the original M1 (for its 30th birthday).
Not having any future agenda. Won't make it into production - nor showing any clues about future BMW cars.
It's just a tribute (like BMW Concept Coupe Mille Miglia 2006 was two years ago) - combining retro styling theme with the modern BMW styling ("flame surfacing").
So: NOT A DESIGN STUDY BUT A HOMMAGE CONCEPT (A TRIBUTE) WITHOUT FUTURE AGENDA.
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Spoonie_G
- 4/27/2008 6:06:05 PM
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HOMMAGE CONCEPT my ass. BMW is testing the waters.
VISO
- 4/27/2008 3:14:42 PM
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amazingbimmer will think its the best thing since sliced bread.
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stash84
- 4/28/2008 4:34:44 PM
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absolutely
0to60
- 4/27/2008 3:33:37 PM
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why did they position the badge on the back like that. Ugly
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TimE
- 4/27/2008 4:00:43 PM
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Have you ever seen the original M1? I guess not. If you had you would not ask such a stupid question.
The M1 Hommage Concept is a hommage to the original M1: M1 reinovated (retro + futurism. Just an exhibition Concept to celebrate the 30th anniversary of the original M1.
Geez!
stash84
- 4/28/2008 4:35:16 PM
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excuses excuses
Larry
- 4/27/2008 6:55:52 PM
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yes, that new BMW M1 crushes that rebadged VW, Audi R8TT
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chewy
- 4/27/2008 7:04:17 PM
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good one
the R8 shares some parts with the Lamborghini Gallardo
chewy
- 4/27/2008 7:03:29 PM
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It's a concept, that doesn't look roadworthy. Compare it to the R8 when you can actually buy one.
What's next? comparing design sketches to real cars.
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chewy
- 4/27/2008 7:10:13 PM
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as a concept it does what all concepts do, get attention with concept styling
SoSnootySo
- 4/27/2008 7:11:51 PM
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This is the most beautiful car ever made. It has to be because it's a BMW. I so hope they put this car into production. I truly do. It will sell like Hotcakes! I do have one concern though. There are not enough badges on the car. It needs 2 or three more BMW logos on the door. Maybe some small ones on the windshield.
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stash84
- 4/28/2008 4:36:02 PM
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lmfao
S2000VS911
- 4/27/2008 8:00:43 PM
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the front head design look like Zion mobile suit in Gundam Movie & 850.
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rspect
- 4/27/2008 8:23:26 PM
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Front looks inspired by the KTM X-bow, which was a more cohesive design in my opinion. Overall, I do not like this M1.
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senorgato
- 4/27/2008 9:20:48 PM
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looks more like a concept car from back in the 60's and 70's. Not fresh at all.
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_43LE
- 4/27/2008 10:10:09 PM
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This is horrible, how could one mention this and the R8 in the same sentence?
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t_bone
- 4/27/2008 10:12:06 PM
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I wonder how loud this will get at 80 MPH as the air molecules are forced to "interpret" the chaos of the rear design...particularly that slit.
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amazinBimmer
- 4/27/2008 10:15:24 PM
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of course the BMW.. when have they not beat the snot out of the vw?
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OBie
- 4/27/2008 11:36:22 PM
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Is this a serious question??? Looks like an 80's concept car, perhaps something for the movie "Blade Runner". Hot? Perhaps 20 years ago. No where near the evolutionary design of the R8.
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bigredcaddy
- 4/28/2008 12:24:02 AM
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looks kind of like a cross between delorean and nsx
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1evlaudi
- 4/28/2008 12:52:33 AM
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so I will not comment on the Larry's of this web site. However, I agree with the 80's and 90's comments, and is it just me or it looks like an "hommage" to the Vector.
Remember the Vector W2, that was actually very "space age", that reminds me of it .
LOL anyway
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altdude
- 4/28/2008 1:32:34 AM
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Not bad looking. I like the very sharp angles, which are quite a contrast to the smooth lines on the R8. That being said, they're both beautiful designs, just in different ways. For me personally, I prefer something a bit bolder, sharper, more intense and aggressive... so I pick the BMW.
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Designer1
- 4/28/2008 1:37:48 AM
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Looks 80'sh, ugly, and I don't know how can it possibly outfox the R8, Lambo, Ferrari???
BTW, what the HELL is the deal with the two BMW emblems on the back?
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Designer1
- 4/28/2008 1:49:10 AM
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I just the saw the pics, the LF-A is gorgeous, and that Bentley is just ugly!!!
bmwdrvr
- 4/28/2008 8:37:02 AM
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you obviously dont know cars, all this concept is, is a modern interpretation of a car that was produced from the 70's to the early 80's, so hence it looking very retro, the BMW badges are EXACTLY what the original had on it, how can you be enthusiast and not no anything about the Lamborghini, and BMW effort M1 i mean seriously
MunichRob
- 4/28/2008 5:01:44 AM
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Wow this thing is ugly...I know it's just a concept apparently paying homage to an out-dated car, but if they really want to compete with the R8 from a design standpoint, they'll have to draw their inspiration from somewhere else.
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CLK63BlackSeries
- 4/28/2008 5:58:25 AM
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How dare you compare the magnificent R8 with gut-wrenchingly ugly THING!
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MaindrianPace
- 4/28/2008 6:38:05 AM
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I think this thing is beautiful, in an amazing way.
To be honest though I'm not sure if it would be focused enough to be an F430 competitor. I'd still take this over either, it looks way better than the R8. The R8's proportions always look silly to me... and the details were predictable Audi styling, not that thats a bad thing, but adventurous it wasn't.
The M1 Concept reminds me more of a lambo, possibly because of its ancestors relations!
Will they build it, no. I'm sure TimE is right on what he says.
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evilm
- 4/28/2008 8:29:54 AM
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That is one nice loking car! Interesting wheels.
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bmwdrvr
- 4/28/2008 8:30:45 AM
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i like it, it looks like a modern day M1, including the wheels, very retro which probably means it wont be produced, but i like it, and it does look like what a next generation M1 would have looked like
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Ventura
- 4/28/2008 9:18:11 AM
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It looks like BMW, LAmborghini and Zagato were having sex and they gave birth this child!!
From some perspectives it looks great , from some other it looks not realy great!!!
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evilm
- 4/28/2008 11:57:02 AM
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I was too mature to watch such an idiotic show.The R8 doesn't come close. Whats wrong with you!
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answer
- 4/28/2008 11:18:32 AM
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Flippin' awesome!
But, the R8 remains just as cool.
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Automaniac
- 4/28/2008 11:41:13 AM
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Great car!!!! Don't knock it!!!!
The original press release from BMW is here:
http://www.pressportal.com.au/news/186/ARTICLE/1845/2008-04-28.html
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vladyxa
- 4/28/2008 12:51:24 PM
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I love the design! Awsome!!!
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Agent001
- 4/28/2008 1:09:14 PM
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Design tribute to the BMW M1 celebrates its world premiere at the Concorso d'Eleganza Villa d'Este 2008.
Munich/Cernobbio. To mark the 30th anniversary of the BMW M1 super sports car, BMW Group Design is presenting a homage to this legendary model as part of the Concorso d’Eleganza Villa d’Este 2008. The BMW M1 designed by Giorgio Giugiaro was a car of superlatives and a highly emotive vehicle that was uncompromisingly primed for the race track. Spawning this development was the BMW Turbo by Paul Bracq, a revolutionary concept car which, in addition to its groundbreaking functional design, also boasted a raft of technical innovations. It is from these two unique vehicles that the BMW M1 Homage takes its cue – a design study that pays tribute to its forerunner models and an embodiment of the competence, creativity and potential of the BMW Group Design team.
“For BMW, heritage is always also a living heritage. Drawing inspiration from your own past and thereby reinventing yourself – that is exactly what the BMW M1 Homage demonstrates in impressive style.” Dr Klaus Draeger, BMW Group Board Member, Development
A particular forte of BMW Group Design is to draw on its own powerful history and actively feed this into the design of the future. The BMW M1 Homage is a design study in the tradition of a BMW Turbo that represents a contemporary take on the BMW M1 and the mid-engine concept. This tribute exhibits an emotional design that showcases technology and integrates it into the overall aesthetics of the vehicle.
The Concorso d’Eleganza Villa d’Este provides the perfect backdrop for the BMW M1 Homage. Here automotive beauties from the past meet the concept cars and design studies of the future. It is in this dynamic field of tension between past and present that the BMW Group Design team affords insights into its own perspective on a historically inspired automotive future.
Homage to the BMW M1.
“For a company as for a product, it is important to be aware of one’s roots. In the spirit of Giugiaro and Bracq, the BMW M1 Homage unites the BMW values of design and technology in a highly emotional and exciting interpretation.” Christopher E. Bangle, Director Design BMW Group
The BMW M1 was an utterly uncompromising super sports car oozing passion; its forerunner, the BMW Turbo by Paul Bracq, displayed innovative technical solutions that found their expression in emotional design. It is precisely this blend – of technology and design, rationality and passion – that the BMW M1 Homage embodies. It presents an exciting and authentic interpretation of the BMW M1 and the mid-engine concept from a present-day perspective, and the leg
