2010 Ford Fusion and Fusion Hybrid pricing released

Do you think because your User Name is veyron1001, that you will ever own one? Not a chance.

— Airliner (View Profile)

Posted on 11/23/2008 1:51:12 AM | | Votes: 7   

veyron1001 -
"Does Ford think they are going to win against the new Honda hybrid? Not a chance."

First point - the Hybrid Fusion competes with the Hybrid Camry not the Insight.

Second Point - The Fusion blows away the Hybrid Camry in city MPGs.

Third Point - The Fusion is a FULL hybrid, unlike the Honda which is just a mild hybrid.

Fourth Point - Honda has yet to produce a FULL hybrid, they have only been able to buid mild hybrids unlike Toyota and Ford which have built full hybrids for years.

Fifth Point - How did the Accord (mild) Hybrid do anyway?

Sixth Point - Honda has yet to produce a 6 speed automatic, but I digress.

Seventh Point - why doesn't the Honda Fit bet better highway mileage? Have you compared it to cars much bigger than the Fit? but I digress further.

— Kyle (View Profile)

Posted on 11/23/2008 11:50:33 AM | | Votes: 6   

cptunamzing4, youre an IDIOT

— lexusrox123 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/24/2008 8:59:04 AM | | Votes: 0   

yes, and at least Ford is being competitive by offering FULL hybrids for the last four years, unlike Honda, which has yet to produce ONE.

Honda should really try to get with the 90s too and produce a 6 speed automatic.

— Kyle (View Profile)

Posted on 11/23/2008 11:52:55 AM | | Votes: 3   

Honda does not need a hybrid to get over 30mpg in a car. Ford cant even get 20 hwy in their suv.

— veyron1001 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/23/2008 2:47:00 PM | | Votes: -2   

veyron1001 -
"Honda does not need a hybrid to get over 30mpg in a car. Ford cant even get 20 hwy in their suv. "

Actually the 1.5L Fit only gets 33 mpg while the larger Ford Focus with a 2.0L engine gets 35 mpg.

QUESTION: Why does the smaller Fit get such poor mileage in comparison to the larger Ford?

QUESTION: Why does a V6 Honda Ridgeline only get 20mpg when you can buy a real truck, with a V8 and get 21 mpg?

QUESTION: Why does a Honda CRV only get 20/27 while the Ford Escape gets 22/28?

It sounds as if you are not too knowledgeable about these items.

— Kyle (View Profile)

Posted on 11/23/2008 8:16:42 PM | | Votes: 6   

Kyle quit reading the brochure

— veyron1001 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/23/2008 8:18:18 PM | | Votes: -1   

Actually I am reading the EPA mileage figures, something you may want to consider doing. Otherwise you just continue to demonstrate your ignorance.

I'm glad I was able to correct you glaring mistakes. Any time I can help you gain some simple knowledge, please let me know!

— Kyle (View Profile)

Posted on 11/23/2008 8:24:08 PM | | Votes: 3   

kyle, the fit's mileage according to the epa's site is A-5 27/34 mpg
M-5 28/34 mpg
As5- 27/33 there sports version
The Focus
A-4 24/33 mpg
m-5 24/35 mpg average of 1.5 mpg lower than the fit, impressive for a larger car
and the crv gets 20/26 not as good as the Escape but close.
These are 2008 numbers.
And this Ford is 6 mpg better on gas in the city as the famed Camry hybrid.

— truckman (View Profile)

Posted on 11/24/2008 1:45:40 AM | | Votes: 2   

They can be considered a hybrid leader but thats only because there hybid technology is a toyota patent.

I'm glad ford is finally producing good looking cars and their reliability is up too. Looks like ford is heading in the right direction compared to the other detroit two.

— morhpthanu (View Profile)

Posted on 11/23/2008 8:40:35 PM | | Votes: 0   

Ford payed Toyota to use their patents for a few years because their in house system (Gen I) was similar and they didn't want to face copyright infringement. Ford did NOT buy Toyota's tech like Nissan is doing. Ford may not actually still be paying Toyota for their patent.

Either way Ford is using Ford technology.

— 91z4me (View Profile)

Posted on 11/23/2008 8:50:29 PM | | Votes: 2   

Thats absolutely correct, Ford did NOT pay for any patents from Toyota. They swapped licensing agreements on the CVT control software because the Prius and Escape use the same CVT transmission.

IN FACT, it was Toyota who was sued and lost in court for infringing patented hybrid technology owned by an American company. The US Supreme Court recently upheld the judgement against Toyota. Here is the article.

"Toyota Loses Hybrid Patent Infringement Appeal

The US Supreme Court let stand a $4.3 million award against Toyota Motor Corp. for using another company's patented technology in gasoline-electric hybrid vehicles, including the top-selling Prius, Bloomberg News reported today."

Its amazing how much BAD info there is from some people on this site.

— Kyle (View Profile)

Posted on 11/24/2008 12:17:57 AM | | Votes: 4   

Kyle, get off this site. You seem to have real knowledge of the auto industry and you make logical arguments. We don't want that here!!
(sarcasm)

— neutral (View Profile)

Posted on 11/24/2008 3:50:57 PM | | Votes: 3   

The batteries have an 8 year warranty.

The equipment level of the hybrid Fusion is a lot great than the base Fusion.

There is a tax credit from the Feds for more than a couple grand on the Fusion. And you can't get that on the Camry Hybrid.

— Kyle (View Profile)

Posted on 11/23/2008 8:21:23 PM | | Votes: 3   

Thanks Kyle, there may be light at the end of the tunnel after all. I wonder if the 2010 camry will improve? This Fusion looks great.

— truckman (View Profile)

Posted on 11/23/2008 11:34:54 PM | | Votes: 2