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2010 Nissan GT-R sets a new record at Nurburgring

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Subsequent to Nissan’s dealing with the glitch in the VDC-launch control limit that proved to be an obstacle to the first R35 model, the Japaneses carmaker came back and pledged a GT-R that would be faster.

Nissan provided a software update to permit the launch control and VDC traction control to be utilized simultaneously to offer higher shifter rpms, and based on that, the company promised on paper a faster GT-R. There are some skepticism, however, among owners who turned off their VDC and busted their transaxles in last year’s model concerning the performance advantage with a traction control hindering speed operations. So, for good measure, Nissan has been quite busy testing the latest model year GT-R at the Nurburgring. The GT-R model last year set a remarkable lap time of 7 minutes and 29 seconds around Nurburgring, and with an updated GT-R this year, the best lap time is 7 minutes, 27.56 seconds, about 2 seconds faster than last year’s figure. With 150 lb removed from the total weight of the SpecV, just imagine what could happen.

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2010 Nissan GT-R sets a new record at Nurburgring

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Porsche will say, it is imposible...snd most of people will start to praise the GTR.
— Yonder7 (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 9:22:44 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

But the haters will continue to be skeptical and try to poke holes in the...can you name a few here?
— _43LE (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 9:33:56 AM | | Votes: 7

Praise the GT-R all you want because I am. But don't even start with a Porsche vs Nissan flame war because it's going to go no where. Nissan is an economy brand, Porsche isn't so in anything other than performance, nothing can be compared.

Most Nissan GT-R owners are Porsche 911 Turbo owners as well and love both so only the fanboys are hating. Learn to love cars, I don't see how you can hate the German firm when their engine is in the back and still manage to do such crazy times on the track as well as straight line performance. Porsche is clearly capable of making a full fledged super car like a CGT.

GO GT-R! awesome figures.
— Agent63 (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 5:15:43 PM | | Votes: 0

Really, record for most hyped car that is not really that fast or reliable.
— rocker (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 10:14:06 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -14

HAHAHAHAHA, massive slap upside rockers head. So true, oh so true.
— roundwego (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 10:43:21 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -7

— Whatthe:

| Still slower then the ZR-1

ZR-1, with all its imposing performance, does not work in the rain (no AWD) or snow or in any road conditions other than perfectly dry hot tarmac. And it cannot carry your children.

| Are you talking about the exploding tranny in the gt-r? Or the race
| slicks and setup need to go fast?

"In our view," says Scott Vazin, Nissan North America's chief of product public relations, during a conference call with Inside Line, "this has been blown way out of proportion."

According to Nissan, "less than 1 percent" of the transaxles in the GT-Rs delivered to customers in the United States have failed in some way. With somewhere between 1,750 and 1,800 GT-Rs in the garages of American enthusiasts, this puts the number of transaxle failures experienced in this country at somewhere between 16 and 19 cars. This is not an insignificant number of GT-Rs, but it's short of an epidemic of transaxle failures.

Regardless, Nissan has already instituted a running software change to the onboard computers of any still unsold 2009 Nissan GT-Rs.

Source: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=140966

2009 Nissan GT-R: Reprogrammed, Our GT-R Gets Quicker

Bottom line, the GT-R with the revised software will be quicker with the VDC on, but not as quick as it was before with the VDC turned off. Only a trip to the track will reveal exactly how performance will be affected.

This is what we wrote a couple of weeks ago in our investigative piece Nissan Reprograms the GT-R. This reporting was based on interviews with many members of the GT-R team at Nissan's headquarters in Nashville, TN. It was also wrong. Turns out the GT-R gets quicker with the VDC on and off.

Source: http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/2009/02/2009-nissan-gt-r-reprogrammed-our-gt-r-gets-quicker.html
— MrBratwurst (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 10:45:55 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 7

Amen brother...
— golfer38 (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 11:26:13 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -6

— Whatthe

| 1)What Moron drives any "supercar" in the snow?

You don't drive supercars in the snow. But you do drive EVERYDAY supercars (like GT-R, 911 Turbo, R8) then. That's what they were built for. To be in service regardless of conditions.

| 2) So said Nissan.

Quote more accurate sources then. All what you've done by now is keeping "blowing things out of proportion" again and again, with no data to support the claims obviously.

| 3)Doesn't change the fact they have been back over and
| over with different cars with different tires and
| different setups trying to go fast. No one can reproduce
| their claimed times.

Who? Automotive journalist who don't understand torque? Porsche engineers doing black PR for the Nissan?

How many professional drivers lapped the Ring in a GT-R in a documented coverage?

"Independent testing has provided times of around 7:50 - 7:55 for the Nissan GT-R and 7:49 for the Porsche GT2[38][39] on the Nürburgring, though both tests were conducted with the track partially damp and with the use of automotive journalists as opposed to professional drivers.[39]"

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_GT-R

| 4) Chevy spent a few days with the Kentucky test driver

Stop implying the driver didn't know the track. It's lame.

| lapping on stock tires and stock suspension and easily
| lapped quicker.

How can you know he managed it EASILY?

| As to rain and your children, who cares.

I do.

| The Vette is a drivers car, the gt-r is nanny mobile, for
| those who want the car to do all the work. Just a hint,
| save your money, get a PS3 and GT5 if that's what you
| like.

Why are you commenting on AutoSpies if you're so much against technology? Why don't you just stick to a typewriter in a barn?
— MrBratwurst (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 11:28:00 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 14

Will you name Porsche 911 Turbo an overkill in terms of technology employed?

Please respond with just with one word: YES or NO.
— MrBratwurst (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 11:54:48 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 15

still cheaper than the zr1 and has back seats
— BJS470 (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 12:18:24 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 10

Thank you, whatthe, for proving me you're just a pro-German fanboy lamer.

Why?

Because, what you obviously don't know since you're a fake car enthusiast, Porsche 911 Turbo is just as computerized as the GT-R.

1. 911 Turbo has a electronically managed and hydraulically actuated clutch-based all wheel drive, just like the GT-R.

2. 911 Turbo also has a twin turbocharged 6 cylinder engine, just like the GT-R. In fact Porsche employs even more technology in it due to variable vane turbines.

3. 911 Turbo also has an electronically controlled active suspension with regulated damping force, called PASM, just like the GT-R.

4. 911 Turbo also has an automatic gearbox (the Tiptronic S) just like the GT-R.

5. 911 Turbo also has a precise electronic stability control allowing driving at the limit, called PSM, just like the GT-R.

6. 911 Turbo also comes with launch control and adjustable subsystems just like the GT-R.

The only thing that makes gormless individuals think GT-R is computerized and 911 Turbo isn's are those fancy gauges displayed using Playstation graphics.

Yet despite all of that, you call the GT-R a technological overkill while you don't name the 911 Turbo like this.

Thank you for attention.
— MrBratwurst (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 12:19:54 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 10

This debate is comical. First off, the GT R has incredible technology, but bottom line is the ZR 1 is faster. The GT R has four seats, but the ZR 1 is faster. As impressive as the GT R is and it is very impressive, the ZR 1 is faster. Not just in a straightline but also around the track. Whether its tough or easy to drive, good feel or bad feel, to much or just the right technology, the ZR 1 is faster period.

And if you're trying to justify a heavier and less reliable awd setup over rwd setup on the track well that's just foolish. Everyone knows in racing awd is a gas guzzler, it tends to breakdown more, it adds weight which will wear tires out faster. Btw, kids?! Please! If you cared about your kids you wouldn't put them in a high performance uncomfortable vehicle in the first place driving around like a weekend track warrior.
— golfer38 (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 2:38:26 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -3

Funny, the GTR needed a second run and to be re-enginnered. Also Nissan used an actual racecar driver whereas GM used a friggin engineer to run their RECORD SETTING lap. Imagine if they used someone like Ron Fellows. Also by the looks of the auctions on EBAY, most GTR owners have their cars up for bid. Hmmmmm...... wonder why?
— rocker (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 4:28:14 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -5

And WOW, 4 SEATS. Anyone mentioning that is has 4 seats is grasping for straws and knows it is an inferior high performance Machine. OR just an idiot.
— rocker (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 4:31:35 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -3

— golfer38

| the ZR 1 is faster period.

It is. With so much of brutal power, it's actually faster than virtually anything else.

| And if you're trying to justify a heavier and less reliable awd setup
| over rwd setup on the track well that's just foolish. Everyone knows
| in racing awd is a gas guzzler, it tends to breakdown more, it adds
| weight which will wear tires out faster.

All what's above is true.

But the GT-R is not a track car. It's an everyday supercar with 2+2 seats and a big boot than can put up a very effective fight on a track with most expensive top exotics.

And since it has to work in any other situation as well, it just needs an all wheel drive. With so much power from a forced induction engine it is technically a must to ensure efficient control in as many conditions as possible.

| Btw, kids?! Please! If you cared about your kids you wouldn't put them
| in a high performance uncomfortable vehicle in the first place

Why? When driven carefully, such machine becomes extremely safe children carrier due to its limits of grip and braking/acceleration performance to assert safety in virtually any condition. For the price of comfort though.
— MrBratwurst (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 4:52:36 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

Porsche will disagree. The only way a factory spec GT-R can even remotely register those times is by running on racing tires, not street ones. I like the GT-R, but this is just blatant false advertising. The best GT-R Nurburgring time is closer to 7:50-7:54 mark.

http://www.automobilemag.com/features/great_drives/0903_2009_nissan_gtr_vs_2009_porsche_911_gt2_nurburgring/index.html
— weaponX (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 9:57:27 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -6

This was actually done with a series II GTR with the rays wheel upgrade wrapped in Dunlop rubber, not a Spec V. Also... press was there witnessing it done as well as a Porsche rep so nobody will be calling BS on this one. We'll all still have to wait for the Spec V times. Apparently they are running it soon.
— SVTruong (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 10:53:35 AM | | Votes: 10

— weaponX:

| I like the GT-R, but this is just blatant false advertising.

Sorry, but it is your comment that is just blatant, false advertising. And here is why.

| The best GT-R Nurburgring time is closer to 7:50-7:54 mark.

Source?

| http://www.automobilemag.com/features/great_drives/0903_2009_nissan_gtr_vs_2009_porsche_911_gt2_nurburgring/index.html

Oh, here is one. Let's read though it and see what you failed to quote.

"[...] I haven't won a World Rally Championship, we don't expect to match the manufacturers' claims, but we should get a very good idea of which car is faster. [...]"

So the author clearly states he cannot achieve limits of those cars and that this is not the point of the comparison. Yet you quote GT-R laptimes as if it was the car's limit, maximum what can be achieved.

"[...] caused one of the most interesting car debates of our time, namely - is the new $77,840 GT-R really faster around the Nürburgring than the $194,950 pinnacle of Porsche's sports car lineup?"

Oh, so they're comparing the 80k GT-R with the 200k Porsche? A bit lame, isn't it? GT-R knife gutted ordinary Carrera and 911 Turbo quickly shared its fate. So they desperately picked the 2,5x more pricey racer with standard carbon ceramic brakes, no back seats, no boot and optional roll cage.

Well.. thank you, dear journalists for acknowledging GT-R superiority over Porsche by pairing it with such powerful opponent.
— MrBratwurst (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 11:14:27 AM | | Votes: 11

Wow sausage, you must’ve failed grade 6 reading comprehension.

The very simple point that Porsche is trying to make on that Automobile mag story is that you can’t possibly achieve those times with a factory spec car, regardless of what superhuman driving skills you have.

Even if you take a steroid-enhanced, superhuman Nissan driver and ask him to drive both cars, he will always register the better time on the Porsche. No human living on this planet can devise a black art driving technique that’s gonna erase 25 seconds off a lap time.
— weaponX (View Profile)

Posted on 4/17/2009 11:31:35 AM | | Votes: 2

weaponX:
"Porsche will disagree. The only way a factory spec GT-R can even remotely register those times is by running on racing tires, not street ones. I like the GT-R, but this is just blatant false advertising. The best GT-R Nurburgring time is closer to 7:50-7:54 mark.

http://www.automobilemag.com/features/great_drives/0903_2009_nissan_gtr_vs_2009_porsche_911_gt2_nurburgring/index.html"

In your link Nissan GT-R and Porsche 911 GT2 are BOTH 17 sec slower than times claimed by BOTH automakers:

Porsche 911 GT2 claimed time: 7:32

http://www.autospies.com/news/Video-Porsche-911-GT2-s-7-32-run-at-the-Nurburgring-21040/

Nissan GT-R claimed time on Bridgestones like in the comparison test: 7:38

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzBcZFWAi6Q

So I think you should also say that Porsche claims are also blatant, false advertising.
— abcd (View Profile)

Posted on 4/17/2009 12:07:51 PM | | Votes: 0

I agree with you. Nissan has been pulling this B.S ever since this POS was released.
— roundwego (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 10:44:28 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -12

"Horst von Saurma, chief editor of sport auto magazine, completed about 100 kms with the new Nissan GT-R at the Nurburgring Nordschleife. Best time he achieved was a 7:50 on a partially wet track especially at one of the key passages so called Kesselchen.

"With all the electronic aids the handling is absolutely perfect, the driver doens´t feel how the drive-by-wire system really works as the GT-R stay on track like on rails, always has grip, doesn´t lose control, higly computerized and a perfect racer for the street. A time less than 7:40 is pretty much optimistic, 7:50 shows the true potential of the car. And when the price stays at the announced level, it is a real bargain."

http://2009gtr.blogspot.com/2007/11/sport-auto-test-2009-gt-r-at.html

http://www.sportauto-online.de/test_U_technik/fahrberichte/hxcms_article_508540_14469.hbs
— TurboSpyder (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 11:41:07 AM | | Votes: -7

[Quote]
Just to add a bit towards your post dr S. The aforementioned rallye star during one of the recent nurburgring 24hrs 30-45s a lap quicker than even the manthey car when heavy fog descended on the Eifel. He knows the place very very well.

I dropped him an email and he sent me this and asked me to post it onto the discussion:

"Hi Adam,

Its funny how fast information goes around the world! I drove the Nissan GTR yesterday for KW with the KW clubsport and with the original suspension. All other parts were stock and the weight was original! Due to the fact, that there where some passing manouvers and 2 small mistakes in my line, the theoretical best time, calculated from my best sectors (with data logger), was a 7.46. ( a real lap was 7,49)

So I think, it is not possible, to go faster, when W.Röhrl and Chr.Menzel also where not able to go under 7.45!
The secret source, who watched the test of the 3 cars is not so secret: He owns a guest house in Nürbrug and was there at the test and watched everything. I spoke to him 2 days ago and it was true that tha car was far away from stock, that means power, sound, tyres, exhaust, weight!
But anyway the Nissan GTR is fast also in stock outfit and fun to drive. Only when acclerating it would need more power to the rear, to kill the understeer. Under braking conditions it steers very good into corners! Sometimes to much, but then it is even more fun!
If You want, You can post that in the internet! Source: Wolf!

Danke und Viele Grüße"
[/Quote]

http://www.porkers.co.uk/topic.asp?p=2&f=48&t=605408&h=11
— TurboSpyder (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 11:41:49 AM | | Votes: -9

As I predicted, the haters are back out and trying to poke holes. Roundy & Turbo, don't be so bitter, it makes you look even worse than you already do.
— _43LE (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 12:14:37 PM | | Votes: 9

Here we go again...
— golfer38 (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 11:28:08 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2

Yea this is never gonna end until somebody admits defeat or Top Gear publishes their own test results with the stig.
— SVTruong (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 11:47:33 AM | | Votes: 6

HA HA HA SLAP!! And down she goes!!!
— roundwego (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 11:53:36 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -5

If this were a non-Asian car would there be nearly as much bitching and conspiracy talk?

I think everyone here knows the answer to that question.

Why are the euro-only-fanboy guys so unwilling to let an Asian brand get any credit for anything?

That's the question I'd like answered.
— answer (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 12:02:42 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 9

3814 lbs
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 12:11:33 PM | | Votes: -5

Answer, you hit the nail on the head.
— _43LE (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 12:12:56 PM | | Votes: 10

its not the nationality, its the weight.
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 12:30:50 PM | | Votes: -6

i answered the question, buttholes!
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 3:46:29 PM | | Votes: 0

More race baiting by answer and 43...despicable.
— NannerPus (View Profile)

Posted on 4/22/2009 9:17:21 PM | | Votes: 1

The Nissan GTR is the worlds ugliest new car on the road today.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 12:09:30 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -10

If we were talking about "rides", then I guess your Mom would win.

...sorry, you left that out over the plate!
— StarSearch (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 2:59:14 PM | | Votes: 6

flamewar! *dawns flame suit* GT-R is fast, ZR1 is still faster, and if Porsche can't beat the ZR1 with all of their "experience" and awd... America wins! :P
— Joe_Limon (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 12:34:54 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

Amazing how this thread is all about hate and pointless fights.
— Willis (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 12:41:32 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 9

I've always said that Autospies is a microcosm of society in general.
— _43LE (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 12:44:39 PM | | Votes: 1

This is autospies.com
— answer (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 12:45:24 PM | | Votes: 3

It is interesting how answer constantly derides the other users of this site while at the very same is partaking race baiting. Handle your own business first answer.

— NannerPus (View Profile)

Posted on 4/22/2009 9:53:46 PM | | Votes: 1

Good job Nissan. The GT-R is one amazing car. Glad to see it still sits atop all other comptetion. Keep up the good work!
— PerformanceGuy (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 1:18:11 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 8

Yes but that's what the GTR has been about from the beginning.How else is Nissan going to sell it other then saying it's faster around the ring then Porsche.Unfortunately super cars have to brag about numbers in order to justify their existence in the 1st place.I mean your not going to just say it's "faster then hell".The automotive culture has been brought up on facts and figures.So as long as car companies keep bragging about facts and figures people are going to disagree and hate and pointless fights will continue to exist.The thing is these cars have more dimensions then just how fast they will go.How about how they drive or how the engine feels or the quality of the interior or how the steering feels.Otherwise if you only judged the value of an F430 over a 911 GT3 based purely on it's 0-60 times how could you justify it's cost difference over the Porsche for example(over 100 grand).A GTR is a great engineering effort and it is quick around the ring. That does not mean it's a better sports car then the Porsche.
— mini22 (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 1:28:54 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -5

pretty sad day! If you are a german fanboy!!!!!!!!!
— STJ88 (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 1:31:47 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 6

i'm a german car fan and i will be quick to congratulate nissan again. i don't see why every german car fan has to hate this car, it is an amazing machine.
— 1dott8 (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 1:58:20 PM | | Votes: 11

has their last record time ever been archieved by an independent source?

proven time is 7:50 until someone who doesn't get paid by nissan says sth different

— 100octane (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 1:45:12 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -9

Well done Nissan! I can't wait for the Spec V times.
— F1_Driver (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 2:12:22 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 8

Yesterday I drove from Irvine in OC to Long Beach to one of my real estate listings and along the way I saw 2 Ferraris and 6 Porsches, 4 Corvettes and 1 red GTR.

As usual the idjit driving the Nissan was an a-hold dodging in and out of traffic.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 2:28:11 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -8

Yesterday I drove to Taco Bell and got the triple layer nachos and a large Dr. Pepper.
— answer (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 2:30:46 PM | | Votes: 10

Yesterday driving from Long Beach Irvine in OC in my GT-R I saw a guy at the stoplight holding a sign that read "Will Show Homes For Food".

Kinda sad really.
— StarSearch (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 3:04:13 PM | | Votes: 10

But not unexpected.
— _43LE (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 3:09:49 PM | | Votes: 7

+1 answer, StarSearch, _43LE

By the way, yesterday I was driving my one and a half Veyron and...
— MrBratwurst (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 4:51:26 PM | | Votes: 6

StarSearch-

The house I was representing the buyers for closed and recorded yesterday tax day and I get a check tomorrow for $9,000 bucks.

:-D
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 4:59:46 PM | | Votes: -5

And here on the internet I am a billionaire and don't even need to work...
— _43LE (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 5:15:36 PM | | Votes: 8

To all the Haters that despise the GT-R...good riddance to you all. I think that Nissan made a remarkable car that can still kick Porches ass. Get over yourselves.
— Type707 (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 3:28:26 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 6

I think people forget that the GT2 is a 3 year old car. Porsche didnt build any of them for 2009 MY and my guess is that when they do release an updated version there wont be much to talk about anymore. The car has not changed since its release in 2007.

Turbo is in the same boat. With the new PDK transmission and what most people guess will be over 520HP it wont even be a contest for the GTR.

If you look at their history Porsche really doesnt build a new car every time someone 1 ups them (or claims too in this case). Since both of the models above were not part of the MY09 mid cycle refresh that the other Porsche's received i am sure that they are just waiting for the right moment. Maybe when rich dudes are ready to buy cars again... In 07 you coudlnt go to a dealership and buy a Turbo coupe, they were all pre sold, or gone within a couple days of arriving. Porsche likes to make money, not let their cars sit in dealerships.

When the new Turbo comes out we can compare apples to apples, and when the new GT2 comes out, we can keep comparing it with other super cars... not ugly wannabees that sit in failing dealerships.
— Timzilla (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 3:55:39 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

Its fast, no one doubts that (I hope). And no one should have doubted Nissan's ability to create a highly competitive sports car either.

However, the GTR is never going to get the respect that some think it deserves. And definitely not on this board. And this is correct in my opinion. Why?

Because one good car (even as good as the GTR) does not a make Nissan a world class sports car manufacturer. Right now they are nothing more than a one trick pony. Anyone remember Acura and the NSX? Acura was said to have created a Ferrari killer. In hindsight, maybe not.

So, call me in 10 years (or 20 or 30) and then let's see where Nissan stands against the competition. Then, and only then, can anyone talk about "world class" status because that is how high the bar has been set. its an exclusive club and one good or even great model is not enough to get in. I am certain that Porsche will still be there building top of the class sports cars in 2030. Will Nissan?
— thstone (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 3:57:37 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

For those of us with a different perspective and further knowledge, the GT-R has had 5 previous iterations before this latest version. It all started way back in 1969. In fact, the R33 of the mid 90s was the first production car to lap the ring in under 8 minutes. So, in fact, Nissan does have a history of producing world class sports cars. Ever heard of the Z?

People around the world have respected the GTR for quite some time, it's just that people here for one reason or another (i.e. hate) choose not to.

FYI, at the time the NSX was a Ferrari Killer. Unfortunately, they did nothing to support their efforts after wards.
— _43LE (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 4:30:00 PM | | Votes: 4

Interesting when the ZR1 posted a time with only a video, everyone accepted it. When Nissan posted the time all the haters were @*(&^$&@^$%@( and there were a lot of skeptics as well. Nissan has been in countless magazine tests all over the world where it beats the porsche and in the US tests is close to the ZR1 and destroys the Z06 but people seem to not understand
— veyron1001 (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 4:56:45 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 9

no one denies that the gt-r easily outperforms a turbo and a z06, but that wasn't the point.

there were quiet more than a handfull of journalists and professional racing drivers that were not even able to scratch the 7:30 barrier, which is supspicious.

it doesn't make sense to call, someone who mentions that, a fanboy. ignoring this fact rather makes the nissan lovers look like fanboys
— 100octane (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 5:28:01 PM | | Votes: 2

The sad story is a few years back nobody would credit Nissan to compete with the Porsche 911 yet alone the Corvette Z06. Now that those cars are in the GTR's rear view you raise the Bar with the ZR1. We must not forget that the GTR is the base level for Nissan's ultimate supremacy in the super car world.....Wait til the V spec, better interior and better ride in the M spec, and then last but not least the V spec LeMans to hit showrooms near you.
— shiftless (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 10:26:18 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 6

reading this forum is like watching cat fights. take it easy girls!
— bluedart (View Profile)

Posted on 4/17/2009 11:35:17 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

How is this a new record? If it didn't beat the ZR1 time, which still hasn't beat the Viper time? What new record was set?
— Inline6 (View Profile)

Posted on 4/18/2009 5:25:15 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

LMAO @ Porsche again n again
— Denali (View Profile)

Posted on 4/19/2009 8:38:20 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

I'd say that 95% of the German fanboys on here drive Wabbits, left over Sciroccos, GTIs, Yettas, and those supergirly "New" Beetles. Not only they cannot afford a Porsche which they lust after, they cannot afford a "lowly" Nissan GT-R. LOL!
— avanti64 (View Profile)

Posted on 4/24/2009 6:03:29 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

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