2011 Hyundai Sonata 2.0 Turbo priced from $24,145

Lol...this turbo is a MITSUBISHI twin scroll. They've been making quality turbo systems for about 30 years...pls do some research before you accuse a great effort with "problems."

— sccracing (View Profile)

Posted on 10/5/2010 1:05:13 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

A ferrari 458 italia engine wont last as long as a Toyota 4-cylinder. What is your point? And who keeps their cars for 15 plus years in order to accumulate 200k miles? Non issue. BMW is using turbos now. If it’s good enough for them, it’s good enough for me. Oh yeah... BMW didn't use the twin-scroll turbos at first, now they are. Guess Mitsu knew more about turbos than BMW (which they do).

And in Europe every other car is a turbo. Turbos have come a long way since the 80’s. It’s only the Americans who believe that Turbos are unreliable, and they base that off of experiences that happened over 25 years ago. There’s nothing wrong with turbos dude. Get with the times.

— LexSucks (View Profile)

Posted on 10/5/2010 9:33:29 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -3   

Agreed!!!

— 1uberaudiR8 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/5/2010 9:57:05 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

Lol...this turbo is a MITSUBISHI twin scroll. They've been making quality turbo systems for about 30 years...pls do some research before you accuse a great effort with "problems."

— sccracing (View Profile)

Posted on 10/5/2010 1:04:35 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

Sorry but the Mitsu turbos do not last as long as a standard NA Toyota 4 cylinder, which can easily go 200K with just the routine maintenance service.

— quizz (View Profile)

Posted on 10/5/2010 1:25:17 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 5   

Anyone who says that Mitsu Turbos aren't any good are ignorant fools.

— LexSucks (View Profile)

Posted on 10/5/2010 9:19:05 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2   

They have a special on Lasik's sir...

— LACMAN (View Profile)

Posted on 10/5/2010 9:51:20 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

Hyundai has a 10 yr/100,000 mile power train warranty on all their products, I don't think Hyundai is too concerned about reliability. Consumer report backs 'em up on this claim.

— richard112360 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/5/2010 9:49:12 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2   

Finally something sporty for families that does not need a large V6 guzzler. 33mpg highway is impressive. At least Hyundai is being creative, Honda, Toyota, Nissan are all dull beige. Ford is utilizing turbo now in a lot of their upcoming cars, even the Ford F-150 is getting an ecoboost engine. Chevy is putting a turbo option in the Cruze albeit weak. So Toyota sticking with lame duck rhaspy 4 cylinders and Honda with it's dated VTec are out-modes.

— Whelan (View Profile)

Posted on 10/5/2010 9:50:14 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2   

Numbers are very impressive but i agree i also have some concerns/doubts regarding the reliability and durability of Hyundai turbo engine compare to NA 4 cylinder units of Toyota and Honda. Hope they remain reliable after 100K.

JUGNU

— JUGNU (View Profile)

Posted on 10/5/2010 9:51:49 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 7   

4 mpg is quite a significant difference for cars that will have similar performance. I'm sure the toyota's v6 will edge out the hyundai in a drag race but the 4 mpg is worth it. I don't see too many families racing a sonata anyways. I think the 4 extra mpg is worth the half second difference that will probably seperate the sonata from the camry v6. Plus the sonata will be more lively handling since it won't have a big v6 sitting over the front drive wheels to promote even more understeer that already plagues front wheel drive cars.

— 85bmw745i (View Profile)

Posted on 10/7/2010 3:50:06 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

I don't think reliability will be a problem with the turbo because most of these family car shoppers aren't going to be running full boost very much at all. Most times the turbo will not be providing much boost at all, its there for when you need it. It will last as long as it isn't being wrung out non stop everyday.

— 85bmw745i (View Profile)

Posted on 10/7/2010 3:51:50 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

If that weren't the case why do all 18 wheelers have turbo diesels? They produce way more boost (well over 25psi) than the turbo in the sonata will ever make, and they last very well. And these turbos are constantly at full boost when accelerating and at near full boost just to maintain highway speeds. ( I know, I drive one ) Just keep the oil changed and it will be just fine. .

— 85bmw745i (View Profile)

Posted on 10/7/2010 3:54:31 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1