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240HP diesel Porsche Cayenne coming March next year
Porsche has stated in the past it would not fit any diesel powerplants to its cars but with toughening fuel economy and emissions regulations looming in both the U.S. and Europe the sports carmaker may not have a choice.

Industry experts are predicting Porsche will use an upgraded Audi V6 turbodiesel in its Cayenne SUV, and new reports claim the oil-burning Porsche will be on sale by March next year.

The new engine will develop a peak output of 240hp (179kW) and Porsche is expected to produce up to 15,000 diesel Cayennes annually. Read Article



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huu76huu76 - 6/16/2008 1:54:45 PM
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Dang it Porsche, you just lowered your image another rung.

Goes to show us though, if your European car can't meet North America's superior emission standards, turn it into a truck and use a diesel to circumvent that stupid loophole.

Really wish the US would tax SUVs like they do in Canada. I'm hoping some day they'll levy the green tax on all trucks on both sides of the border.

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StarStar - 6/16/2008 2:15:09 PM
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"North America's superior emission standards"

Ha, ha, ha...right. The place where in most of the states you can drive cars without being required to pass technical inspection or pass any pollution test. Try again Panda.



EnnNorakEnnNorak - 6/16/2008 6:17:18 PM
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No way huu76, Porsche is simply offering its customers more choice. The only complaint I have is that the Cayenne's front seats are not wide enough -- they must be sharing seats with a lesser VW vehicle or simply smoking the wrong stuff.


CommonSense01CommonSense01 - 6/17/2008 1:45:54 PM
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Star

Please refrain from making statements which are either completely false or extremely stupid. Thanks.


Agent009Agent009 - 6/18/2008 8:32:10 AMView My AgentSpace
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To clarify the situation:

States and Federal Districts with periodic (e.g., annual) vehicle safety inspections of some sort

* Delaware
* District of Columbia
* Hawaii
* Louisiana
* Maine
* Massachusetts
* Minnesota
* Mississippi
* Missouri
* New Hampshire
* New Jersey
* New York
* North Carolina
* Pennsylvania
* Rhode Island
* Texas
* Vermont
* Virginia
* West Virginia
* Maryland
* Alaska
* Arizona
* California
* Colorado
* Georgia
* Illinois
* Indiana
* Nevada
* Ohio
* Oregon
* Washington
* Wisconsin


dumpstydumpsty - 6/16/2008 2:29:47 PM
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OK, 240hp diesel is great. But how much torque is spinning the wheels? Considering many diesels capable of 240hp may achieve 325-350lb-ft of torque (at low RPM levels) then this Porsche oil-burner may be a big hit (as in popularity)...not much of a hit to the wallet.

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S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 6/16/2008 6:29:06 PMView My AgentSpace
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The Mercedes E320 Bluetec gets 400lb ft of torque (200hp). This should be even better.


HeyhuubHeyhuub - 6/17/2008 8:41:54 AM
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The latest 3.0 TDI from Audi has 370 lb-ft @ 1500rpm against the 400lb-ft @ 1600rpm from the E320. The reason the Audi engine produces more power is because it revs higher.


NItePhireNItePhire - 6/16/2008 2:33:20 PM
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I wonder if they need any yellow mustard to go with those words that they are eating right now..

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steve27tsteve27t - 6/16/2008 4:29:55 PM
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Diesel power will be big in the premium market, huge torque, great power in the 3 and 4 litre bracket and much better mpg figures.

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steve27tsteve27t - 6/16/2008 4:38:44 PM
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Figures for Audi 3.0 Turbo Diesel from Audi UK. 240hp SAE and over 330 lbs ft of torque at 1400+ rpm......

These diesels are turning out HP figures that just a blink of an eye ago would have been impressive for a gas engine, I think BMW has a 280hp 3 litre diesel, but no gas engine has this kind of torque.


Performance data

Displacement, cc 2969

Max. output, kW (PS) at rpm 0(233)/4000

Max. torque, Nm at rpm 332(450)/1400-3250

Engine management Common rail direct injection, 1600 bar with piezo injectors, seven-hole injector nozzles, VTG turbocharger with intercooler, swirl and tangential intake ports, swirl port regulated Bosch EDC-16CP+, volume, injection start, charge pressure, EGR contro

Exhaust emission control Air-gap insulated exhaust manifold, oxidising converters as primary and main catalytic converters, water-cooled exhaust-gas recirculation



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S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 6/16/2008 6:30:27 PMView My AgentSpace
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Oh god... If they offered the A4 or A6 with that engine here, it would be my next car... The only reason I'm not sure about the Merc is because it's RWD!


HeyhuubHeyhuub - 6/17/2008 8:43:03 AM
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The new one in the A4 produces 240hp @ 4000 and 370 lb-ft @ 1500.


mini22mini22 - 6/16/2008 5:28:30 PM
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Well-I can just see some rich Beverly Hills type going to the back of a posh restaurant asking for spent cooking oil!

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EvoAudiEvoAudi - 6/16/2008 5:38:33 PMView My AgentSpace
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Give it TT's and then we'll see.



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DieselRulesDieselRules - 6/16/2008 6:43:23 PM
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Its the only way to meet gov't mileage regulations and offer performance at the same time (using today's technology).

Notice that Porsche didn't try to bump mileage and performance with a gas-hybrid option ...

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Matthew1Matthew1 - 6/16/2008 9:37:28 PM
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"Notice that Porsche didn't try to bump mileage and performance with a gas-hybrid option ..."

Not so fast.....




VenturaVentura - 6/17/2008 6:35:39 AM
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I don't know if the info that i read is correct but in 2 European magazines i read that the engine is based in the 3.0L 240Hp that Audi uses but tunned to develop around 320HP ( in a future itineration between 280-300 on Audi)!! If this is correct plus the high values of torque it shouldn't be that slow!!!

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huu76huu76 - 6/17/2008 5:51:39 PM
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Star,
Haha, everytime you have to resort to some racist comment, I just laugh. Did a Panda destroy you in school?
Don't be mad at me because you can't compete and got put in special ed.

foxy,
MB also doesn't recommend that you do any towing with the E320 Bluetec (although max 1000lb load is the official spec). A lot of good that torque is doing.
Atleast the Touerag chassis can handle the torque.

E320 Bluetec is also only now becoming 50 state legal (I might be giving it too much credit) and the rest of the oil burners from BMW are still being tinkered with for later release this year.

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