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5.7-liter Toyota Tundras Hit with Camshaft Failures
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5.7-liter Toyota Tundras Hit with Camshaft Failures
The launch of the all new 2007 Tundra full size pickup continues to go anything but smoothly for Toyota. Automotive News is reporting on a string of twenty recent camshaft failures in Tundras equipped with popular i-Force 5.7-liter DOHC V8 motors. Toyota is trying to determine how many of the 30,000 engines built so far might be affected by, "...a metallurgical defect in the casting," according to Toyota spokesperson Mike Michels in the story. The company is blaming the defect on the camshaft's supplier and says it has been corrected.
A camshaft is a metal rod with lobes, or cams, that spin and push open an engine's intake and exhaust valves to let the air/fuel mixture into the engine and the exhaust out during combustion. Double overhead cam motors, like the 5.7-liter V8, use four cams - two per head - to allow for better gas flow and more power.
Toyota will pay the costs to replace the entire engine of any new Tundra with a failed camshaft.
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kpaxx
- 5/29/2007 10:46:54 AM
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Sludge, hesitation, and camshaft failures...where is this toyota quality I keep on hearing about?
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TheSailor
- 5/29/2007 11:09:48 AM
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So much for the famous Toyota Reliability...
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TheSailor
- 5/29/2007 11:22:05 AM
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I know... It is those german gremlins who are trying to destroy the good reputation of Toyota!
DallasMR2
- 5/29/2007 1:05:40 PM
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ok, then why is it that when i purchased my MR2 in spring of 2000 that within a year and a half i had 3 catalytic converter failures that made the exhaust clog? then when they replaced the whole exhaust system the engine, no longer under horrible strain (it couldn't rev past 3k) it would spin a rod??? it's a huge documented problem with the 00 and 01 models and toyota NEVER did a thing for us.
so how's THAT for Toyota reliability????
i guess i should be thanking Toyota in a way...it reminded me i shouldn't have strayed from Honda.
TheSailor
- 5/29/2007 2:24:49 PM
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I don't have anything against Toyota and everybody will experience some reliability issues... What I do have something against is these fanboys who always are on about how unreliable german cars are and how they are stuck at the side of the road all the time. Then it turns out that Toyota has an issue with a car... Ofcause I'm gonna jump at that chance! Who wouldn't?!
BTW: All the reliability reports I've seen all point to the fact that german car makers have problems with quality control, which won't make you grind to a hault... A broken camshaft however WILL blow your engine to pieces! Valves, pistons, heads, crank shaft... The whole nine yards will probably suffer some kind of damage! And that WILL make you grind to a hault... Even though only one of the four camshafts breaks!
SevorbeupstryIsBack
- 5/29/2007 11:33:53 AM
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I truly RESPECT the almost legendary reliability of the Japanese. But some of you forget that German cars are ALSO very very reliable. BMW, Audi and Mercedes all had their problems but in the end they make reliable cars that fun to drive. Many of you don't remember the fantastic Merc 190E, Audi 100, BMW E24... As a matter of fact many of the great reliability you experience in current Japanese cars are all things they "learned" (I don't think copy is the right word here) from the Germans and Americans. (and some others too..)
It seems that many of these 12 year old ignorant fanboys don't grasp that fact because:
1) daddy tells ... is best
2) they weren't even born
3) they believe everything the leaflet says
Stop it!
As with this Tundra pick-up, even the best have issues. This doesn't change my opinion about Japanese cars.
To be honest, they don't make bad and unreliable cars anymore.. ask any engineer.
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Threepoint1415926
- 5/29/2007 3:59:24 PM
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I have to agree.. "unreliable cars" aren't made anymore. Even if I hear people complain about this and that, they clearly dont remember the really unreliable cars of yore. For years you couldn't get a car that promised to start up at the dealership properly... let alone drive off the lot. I'm exaggerating of course but it sure seemed like that back then.
Anti_Bangle
- 5/29/2007 7:54:53 PM
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"I have to agree.. unreliable cars aren't made anymore."
No, VW Touareg is a nightmare in terms of reliability. The Porsche Cayenne isn't any better. These two aren't the worst however, the worst have to be Range Rovers and Land Rovers.
BMWRocks
- 5/29/2007 12:02:17 PM
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Only 20 units. I would say that is damn good. Less than 0.06%. This is not a bad news but a praise worthy.
Keep up the good work Toyota.
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kpaxx
- 5/29/2007 1:09:31 PM
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This "limited number" (20 units) is the same tactic toyota tried with the sludge issue and we all know how that ended up.
paul3230
- 5/29/2007 2:19:05 PM
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Keep up the good work?? Dude, what are you smoking? We are talking about camshafts..not some interior radio trim piece here! Camshafts are one of those things that shouldn't break...ever. Especially on a "tough as nails Tundra" Give me a break. Apparently they didn't take a large enough sample size to create a normal distribution to understand (from a 6 sigma standpoint) how many defects they were to expect. Would be nice if they understood the operating loads and designed the camshaft to not operate so close the failure strain limit of the material.
Agent009
- 5/29/2007 2:43:20 PM
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Statistically it is a small number, but the problem is we are also very early into the production cycle as well.
Hopefully it is limited to a small number overall.
TheSailor
- 5/29/2007 3:05:12 PM
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Honda have made more than 15.000.000 V-TEC engines without one failing due to production issues? So compared to that, 20 engine failures out of what? 10.000 Tundra 5,7 V8? That is a VERY large number!
TheSailor
- 5/30/2007 7:50:32 AM
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No I'm not... The components are the same, they just have to make them larger... and the engines torque doesn't affect the cam shaft! The strain on the camshafts is determined by the amount of force it takes to open the valves against the pressure inside the combustion chamber and the valve spring pressure. Then there is a little friction on surfaces "touching" each others... But it has nothing to do with the engines torque! Actually, a V-TEC engines camshafts is exposed to far greater strain because the engine revs much higher and therefore, the camshaft will have to turn faster as well causing it to perform a greater work (work = force / time). The faster engines also mean that the valve springs need to return the valve faster which means the spring tension needs to be higher (some engines use hydraulic valve lifters, but the result is the same) meaning further increased strain on those poor little cam shafts!
TheSailor
- 5/30/2007 6:56:54 PM
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Only the torque required to turn the cam shaft... The torque is determined by the work performed by the cam shaft, more work = more torque, ergo, if anything, the V-TEC engines should be more proned to camshaft failures, but they aren't... Anyway, whether you choose to misinterprid my post or not doesn't change the fact that you didn't know what you talk about, but was just trying to sound like you do... Don't... If you have nothing proper to say just say nothing at all... We're all better off that way!
And now, for your "Retard, you are so stupid comment":
TheSailor
- 5/30/2007 8:03:07 PM
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BTW... That wasn't even just a simple misinterpretation of my post... That was a true double whammy! First you choose to deliberately misquote me and even then you fail to make a point out of it! I didn't say the camshaft don't need torque to turn, but that the torque the engine produces doesn't have anything to do with the torque on the camshaft!
The only way for the torque of the engine to influence the camshaft is the camshaft is stuck, then all of the torque in the engine will try to turn the camshaft, but only for a fraction of a second... Because a stuck camshaft will ruin your engine...
Designer1
- 5/29/2007 12:16:33 PM
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Since Toyota and all other Japanese companies started building their cars in the US, their quality went down. Its amazing as why do we make a bad product? is it that we're lazy and we just want to get the job done and go home and drink bears? what is wrong with America??
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SevorbeupstryIsBack
- 5/29/2007 12:31:03 PM
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It's the same with Mercedes.
paul3230
- 5/29/2007 2:15:00 PM
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This is NOT an assembly issue, it's a design/manufacturing issue...
TheSailor
- 5/29/2007 4:34:44 PM
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No... Generally, it is a production issue! Both BMW and Mercedes have experienced similar things after they started producing cars in the US! The problem is that both German and Japanese workers have pride in what they do, right down to the guy who sweeps the floors in the factory. In the US, manual labor workers don't care about the quality of their product (with a few exceptions) as long as they get payed! That is what I have experienced in the US harbours I've called and that is what I'm told by my brother who have carried out lots of quality inspections of products and production facilities from around the world.
HOWEVER, In this case, it IS a production issue... But that is the exception to the rule!
no1listensanyway
- 5/29/2007 5:44:08 PM
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Thats right, blame the workers who have nothing to do with the cam shaft failures. This is clearly a design flaw. I understand that there are only 20, but their is bound to be more.
BigShow50
- 5/29/2007 12:27:12 PM
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I agree with you completely, us americans in certain labour positions sometimes needs a slap in the a$$ every other day. The label "Made in America" is starting to look like "Made in Taiwan"...I am not basing this towards the Toyota plant, they took thier chances on a American 3rd party supplier, that I am sure Toyota will take the Camshafts and put it up their you know what...
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Ironman273
- 5/29/2007 1:29:17 PM
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Every manufacturer will have problems. What sets them apart is how they deal with the problem. So far 20 camshafts have broken (out of 30,000 engines) because of a metallurgical defect in the casting from an outside manufacturer that provides the camshafts. So how will they take care of it? Well, they'll air freight a whole 5.7l V8 engine to the dealership to replace yours if you're having a problem.
The bottom line is that Toyota owners will have fewer gripes than most other manufacturers and when they do have a problem they'll be happier with the solution than most. I have a feeling most of the people complaining here never have and never will own a Toyota for their own reasons.
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mopar4dodge
- 5/29/2007 1:37:35 PM
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I'm not really sure much is "Made in America" anymore. "Assembled in America"...sure. Thanks to NAFTA and outsourcing most of the parts are manufactured outside the U.S. and shipped here to be assembled. Ironman, you are correct in that Toyota does probably handle their customers better. It all goes back to the old saying, make one customer mad they will tell everyone they know. Make them happy and they are pacified and don't say anything unless asked about it a majority of the time. I know because I have worked in a Chrysler Jeep Dodge Dealership for 10 years. Customer service has taken a backseat to just trying to make the sale. Truely sad....
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JUGNU
- 5/29/2007 3:56:08 PM
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Well this is sad.
But as we all know it's an All new engine.there would be still some work to do.
But i think Toyota should really concentrate on it more than normal.Trucks are meant to be reliable.
That numbers(20) may be small,but that's a big issue Toyota.
Good Luck
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TheSailor
- 5/29/2007 4:39:15 PM
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Yes... In heavy duty trucks, the manufacturers should pay more attention to the mechanical components than usual, but they should also keep these engines as simple as possible! They should stay with a single camshaft pushrod 16 valve engine... And that is a general issue with all work cars!
JUGNU
- 5/29/2007 3:57:25 PM
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and haters calm down.
JUGNU
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trd1
- 5/29/2007 5:52:06 PM
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i know like one recall on a toyota and everybody goes off.
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TheSailor
- 5/29/2007 6:26:38 PM
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Yes, and you know what? The Toyota fans are to blame! When an article about a largely irrelevant recall (like a wind screen warmer which interferes with the radio) on some german car is uploaded, the Toyota guys are the first to make a huge fuzz about it and claim how german cars blow up as soon as you get near them... Even though the manufacturer have made the recall and is replacing the part for free... But when a Toyota turns out to have a major production flaw, it is just something that "happens to everybody"... And sure it is... But how about letting go of that bias and actually acknowledge that that is the case when it happens to a german car manufacturer?
Anyway, actually, if you look at the above posts, everybody didn't go off... Most of the above posts are actually quite sensible and acknowledges that this is something that happens to everybody... Had this been a Mercedes or Audi however, it would have been a completely different matter!
EnnNorak
- 5/29/2007 6:29:50 PM
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OK, that does it -- Toyota is completely off my shopping list. It's bad enough that some Toyota cars had engine sludge problems but news about camshaft failure is the straw that broke my camel's back. Cracks in castings are a problem that can be nipped in the bud by incoming statistical inspection and working closely with the supplier to solve the problem immediately upon discovery. It's much more costly to fix these kinds or problems after the offending component has been installed in vehicles that have been delivered to customers. Obviously Toyota's offending supplier in this case is incompetent in statistical process control.
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kart1
- 5/29/2007 11:42:35 PM
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To be fair I doubt you were ever going to buy a Toyota. A camshaft failure turning you away from Toyota just means you were not serious about buying one.
TheSailor
- 5/29/2007 7:03:18 PM
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Because Africa is renowned for the Following engine builders:
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And the following car manufacturers:
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TheSailor
- 5/29/2007 7:04:33 PM
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ARRRRGGHH agents... Now you have to erase my above post, because it makes no sence now, aswell... And this one!
scottb67
- 5/29/2007 7:23:51 PM
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first year blunders, I work for a Toyota store and we usually hear about first year problems with in the first three months, but one thing I can tell you is that Toyota reacts fast to the problem and takes care of the customers,
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kpaxx
- 5/30/2007 9:01:28 AM
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Right they reacted so fast when they had sludge in their 3.0 litre engine. Toyota's first reaction was blame the customer.
BMWreplicat
- 5/29/2007 8:56:21 PM
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God I hate the lexus fanboys here that truly believe that it is superior to BMW.
THEY AREN'T EVEN IN THE SAME LEAGUE!!!!!!!
League 1 BMW, MB, AUDI.
League 2 Lexus, Acura, Infiniti.
BE DONE WITH IT YOU FUCKING RICERS!!!
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cbro980
- 6/1/2007 12:40:21 AM
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yep
huu76
- 5/29/2007 11:46:20 PM
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Toyota can blame whoever they want, but maybe it's time to drop back to #2 until they get the reliability sorted out.
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huu76
- 5/29/2007 11:48:57 PM
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It sounds like Toyota found the defect, but that's just sounds like.
If it's just 20, I wouldn't lose sleep over it, but I would unload a can of whoopass on the supplier.
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gsh23
- 5/30/2007 6:22:23 PM
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wow my post got deleted, but BMWreplicat's is still up there?
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TheSailor
- 5/31/2007 6:54:28 AM
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LexusAdmirer
"the engines torque doesn't affect the cam shaft"...
You deliberately chose to quote my post wrong... THAT is what I wrote...
Torque does turn the camshaft, but it has nothing to do with the weight of the camshaft, but the force you need to turn the camshaft and the rotational speed of the camshaft, and as i wrote, the V-TEC engines turn at far greater speeds and the valves excert more force on the camshaft, THIS is the very reason why high speed engines are so hard to build and expensive... And why high displacement engines with two cylinder rows and high revs are such a rare sight! Please go read up on torque! Had there been a lot of gravitational pull in the equation, then you would have been right, but since the force of gravity is equalled out by the bearings on which the cam shaft rotates, it isn't a part of the equation!
Don't talk about stuff you don't understand!
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TheSailor
- 6/1/2007 7:57:33 PM
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And there goes the "retard" comment... Is that your last line of defense?! Pathetic...
LexusKid... Seriously, look into how you calculate torque! The torque is determined by the amount of force it takes to turn the camshaft, not the weight of the camshaft! The only way the weight influence the torque is the amount of friction the weight causes in the bearings, and that is next to none because of the oil in the bearings! Okay pumpkin? How about when you open one of those fanzy beers with the screw top... Do you think that it is the weight of the bottle cap that makes it so hard to turn? Or if weight is a matter, how can you possibly push yourself around on a wheeled chair? Wouldn't that be impossible? Do you see weight anywhere in the SI-unit? Nm? NO... I know it is used in the american unit, but that is because it is a retarded unit... Newton is a force meassure... Not a weight meassure... How someone suddenly came up with the retarded idea to use pound in the american unit, I do not know, but it is actually wrong... Especially since a pound changes in weight depending on where you are located on the earth because of the changing gravitational pull... A newton always stays the same!
Who is the actual retard now?
elviososa
- 5/31/2007 10:42:15 PM
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Well...Tundra is a truck that built by Americans ... what do you expect!?
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wanga
- 6/1/2007 12:56:39 PM
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Yo Sailor,remember The big H manufactures Vtec.
lexusKind/Admirer,Toyota has the Sludge Problem for more than 10 years now.It's about times that they do something about it.They are competing with GM,they build more cars than GM,they start to act like GM.Honda had tranny problem with their V6 vehicles 99 to 01,they solved it within 2 years.
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wanga
- 6/1/2007 1:43:25 PM
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95% of SUV and Pick up trucks owners don't take their vehicles off roads or pulling more than a 3000lbs boat.I just don't see the need for these monsters that only guzzle fuels.Toyota+GM= unrelable vehicles
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truckmen
- 6/1/2007 2:47:45 PM
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Engine sludge, camshaft breaking... No problem here? Wake up toyota in going down hill! Dodge sounds a little better now! I'll stick with Honda!
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rocker
- 6/1/2007 10:03:35 PM
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Hey it looks like a Dodge Ram and performs like a Dodge.
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TheSailor
- 6/2/2007 8:34:09 AM
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LexusAdmirer... You found a formula... WOW... But what does that show?
F = m * a
F = Force... Got that one covered
m = mass... Got that one covered
a = acceleration... Now here lies the problem... Because though the acceleration might be great as a function of the rotational speed (angular speed), but as a function of straight forward acceleration which is m/(s^2) it is VERY small, so though the moment to rotate the camshaft might be influenced by this in theory, it is so infinately small that you don't calculate it... Ask any engine builder or engineer, they'll tell you... especially since most of the weight is concentrated around the very center of the cam shaft... You've just proven what? That you hate to loose an argument... LOL... I can go on like this all week! Why don't you look up the weight of the camshafts in the tundra and any V-TEC engine, and the dimensions for them and then calculate the numbers (if your calculator can handle those small numbers)...
BUT! What you forget is that force is more than gravitational pull and acceleration forces... Aren't you forgetting that there is also the force of the springs working on the cams and the friction forces...
BTW: The analogy is this; to open the screw bottle cap, you need to apply a lot of force even though (as you correctly said, is just a small and very light piece of aluminium... Meaning that when you turn it, your arm and hand is applying a moment (torque) to the bottle cap... This shows that the required torque can be huge though the weight is small... And vice versa... as it is the case with wheels on a wheeled chair (not necessarily a wheelchair)...
Anyway, your claim was that the higher torque of the big toyota engine means that the camshafts need to cope with more torque than the less torquey VTEC engines, and the fact remains that the torque developed by the engine doesn't have ANYTHING to do with the torque excerted on the camshafts... And actually, i'm not so sure that the camshafts are heavier in the tundra...
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TheSailor
- 6/3/2007 12:24:03 PM
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No you didn't
"How much torque can those "15.000.000 V-TEC engines" handle compared to those "10.000 Tundra 5,7 V8"? You're comparing apples to oranges"
And since we are talking about camshafts, you was obviously talking about those since anything else would have been completely off topic!
And please show me that the Tundras camshafts are bigger and heavier, because I'm actually not so sure that is correct since the engine is a V8 which means that it might have twice the camshafts, but the camshafts doesn't have to be bigger...
Anyway, the angular moment and moment of inertia (which is what you would have mentioned had you had any idea what you are talking about, since this is what influence a spinning body with a mass is very small, is influenced more by the angular speed than the mass relatively.
Why don't you do the calculations yourself, because to be honest I really can't be bothered doing it just to prove a point I know I'm right in...
The thing that snaps camshafts are the forces of the valve springs constantly working on the camshafts, not the inertial moment of a heavier camshaft! Have you ever tried spinning a push rod camshaft with the push rods removed (or an overhead camshaft, but the the chances of having one of those mounted without the valves mounted as well)? It spins very easy and will only snap if something is jammed in the bearings or something is obstructing the free rotation of the camshaft and you try to force it beyond it's designed tolerances...
Look... Why don't you try to actually prove your point instead of just avoiding the facts?
BTW: Are you trying to get a rise out of me by calling me a girly man? LOL... You have to try harder if you want to succeed... But at least it sounds like i'm finally getting through to you!
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TheSailor
- 6/3/2007 7:14:25 PM
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LOL... So now we are down to correcting gramma? Idiot...
I'm not going to bother with most of your post, but one thing stands out:
"Doesn't have to be bigger but it has to be heavier. You need the camshaft to be of higher strength to handle the extra cylinders. Remember the camshaft is pushing 8 extra valves."
Don't you know anything? A V-engine has two separate rows of cylinders with four cylinders in each... Overhead camshafts will mean that each cylinder bank has separate sets of camshafts each handling four cylinders with four valves each (or two). Most V-TEC engines are I4 (not V6's) Therefore, each camshaft will have to handle at least the same torque as the tundras V8... And because they spin faster, the valves will have to open more and close faster... Meaning that you increase the diameter of the camshaft (again, look up moment of inertia, larger diameter means the moment will quadruple for each time you double the diameter) and the faster closing time will result in added strain on the camshaft.
Also, i'd like to repeat the following since you just chose to completely ignored it because you suddenly realised (or if you are somewhat reasonable but just extremely stubborn you've realised it ages ago) that i am so right that it hurts right into the very heart of your stubborn heart. And if I assumed the wrong thing, why didn't you say so instantly? Did it take you three days to figure out how to twist out of a painful "Okay, I admit I was wrong!"? You know what? Just walk away and I'll let it slip this time... But don't let it happen again... Anyway here goes:
The thing that snaps camshafts are the forces of the valve springs constantly working on the camshafts, not the inertial moment of a heavier camshaft! Have you ever tried spinning a push rod camshaft with the push rods removed (or an overhead camshaft, but the the chances of having one of those mounted without the valves mounted as well)? It spins very easy and will only snap if something is jammed in the bearings or something is obstructing the free rotation of the camshaft and you try to force it beyond it's designed tolerances...
TheRetard... LOL... very original...
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TheSailor
- 6/4/2007 4:20:29 PM
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seriously... just walk away... You didn't show me shit... You showed me the definition of torque, but what you forget that the only time m*a can possibly have any effect is when you accelerate or brake... YOu are an idiot and you don't want to admit you were wrong, so now i'll just continue to make you look stupid.
And just how stupid are you? Can't you read? I've already proven it (several times, in several different ways)... If you don't believe me, get an education which gives you any qualifications to do so and prove me wrong!
"Have you rotated a wheel not attached to a car's axel? Rolls easily, right? But have you rotated a wheel attached to a car's axel? Doesn't roll as easily, right?"
You do know that you just proved my point exactly? The work needed to spin the tire when it's not attached equals your equation, F=m*a, but when you attach it to the car, all the resistance of the different elements in the car will drastically increase the amount of force needed to turn the wheel, ergo, the weight of the wheel plays an infinately small role, the same applies to the camshaft...
And don't you try to make it sound like we were discussing something else to save face! You brought this on and now I'll continue to make you look stupid until you admit you are wrong! It has always, right fom the beginning been your argument that the camshaft snapped because the Tundra has more torque... Now you see how stupid that argument is so you try to make it sound like I misunderstood you! IDIOT! Just admit it and move on... You'll feel so much better!
And now you did a doo doo again... Because by saying that what snaps them is the metal fatique you are just agreeing with me... The constant rotation of the cam shaft means that the loads on the camshaft constantly changes inducing metal fatique... It isn't a problem if you don't try to cut corners...
I'm done here...
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