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AUDI A4 2.0t Q S-Line vs. BMW 325i Sport
Today, I test drove two excellent cars back to back. A black 2006 325i with sport and premium packages, and a black 2007 A4 2.0t Quattro with S-Line package, tiptronic and premium packages. I assumed that the BMW would demonstrate superior driving dynamics and enjoyment--I was wrong.

Let's compare the two:

Engines: Both engines (the 2.0t found in the Audi, as well as the 2.5L in the BMW have both been recognized by Ward's as 10Best engines, 2005 and 2006, respectively). Although both fantastic engines, there are differences. The 2.0t, being a turbocharged four, feels a lot peppier--like the power is more readily available.

Although turbo lag is virtually non-existant, you can still tell it's a high-revving, high-quality four cylinder. The Inline 6 in the BMW on the other hand feels a bit smoother and seamless in operation, as you'd expect, with little hesitation.

The Audi ironically felt considerably quicker, both off the line and in cruising; the powerband seemed endless and it was hard to believe at times it was a four cylinder. The I6, while power was avaible, felt more sluggish and hesistant. While clearly a top notch six cylinder, it lacked the "soul" and eagerness of the 2.0t.

Driving characteristics: Both felt very "Germanic" and sporty in their own right, but slighly different. As you know, the BMW is rear wheel drive while the Audi is all wheel drive. We've discussed many times the advantages and disadvantages of each. Many of you have criticized Audi for making front-heavy cars, that "aren't balanced".

I can personally attest that when behind the wheel of these two automobiles, the differences in "feel" are quite minimal. While the RWD may feel more athletic to some, the security and sure-footedness of Torsen all-wheel drive cannot be disputed, especially in the rainy conditions I was testing them in. The Audi definitely felt heavier, but also felt more tossable, next to the BMW.

Both cars offered excellent feedback in the form of steering (although the Audi's was lighter), braking, and handling. The A4 chassis felt more taut, and sports-oriented however.

Interior: No contest here; the Audi's fit, finish, materials, and execution were top notch, while the BMW's were marginal, to say the least. With S-Line package the car came with special titanium piping--attention was paid to the smallest of details such as the stitching of leather, titanium accents in places you wouldn't expect them, and the finest leather.

The BMW on the other hand, had a simpler, more detached feeling interior with a lot of sharp lines and angles. Although the leather was of great quality, the dashboard, buttons, steering wheel, shifter, even mirror, just felt cheap to me. I was disappointed and it was quite obvious BMW cost-cut here.

Price: Both nearly at $40,000, but ironically the Audi's lease rate came out slightly lower.

Bottom line: All in all, these are both fantastic automobiles. I'd definitely have to say that out of all of the cars I've personally driven in this segment, the Audi comes closest to BMW in matching driving dynamics.

If I had to choose a winner based on handling and sheer enjoyment, I'd definitely have to go with the Audi. It felt more sport-oriented and with the Quattro all-wheel drive was incredibly confidence-inspiring in the rain.




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AlexTxAlexTx - 9/6/2006 2:04:15 PM
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Will: I drove the IS250. It's nice, but man it's slow.
The AWD has to be even worse.


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NeverfollowNeverfollow - 9/6/2006 3:01:19 PM
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The Lexus doesn't even wake up until you get over 4500 rpm. The AWD version is very slow. Slower than an A4 by almost a full second. If you have ever driven an unmodified 1.8T Quattro A4, you'd kinda get the idea. The performance is about the same as that car. 0-60 performance is about the same for both the A4 2.0T Quattro and an AWD 325 however. They just feel different. The torque of the 2.0T coming on strong at such a low rpm feels great. The BMW takes a little longer to spool up but once it gets going, shows some real muscle.

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speedracer54speedracer54 - 9/6/2006 7:07:04 PM
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Audi has better gas milage. The 325i is being upgraded to the 328i. So if you had to buy a car now get the A4. If you have more money and can wait get the 328i

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NeverfollowNeverfollow - 9/6/2006 7:16:20 PM
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Look for a bump in power to come from the A4 2.0T in the very near future. Audi will not let BMW have a power advantage in this sector. We may see a 225-230hp variant very soon especially in the S-line.

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chewychewy - 9/6/2006 8:04:09 PMView My AgentSpace
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Yes, in Europe the A4 already gets 220 hp in the 2.0 TFSI. The 2.0 TFSI is quicker than the Lexus IS 250, the VW Passat wagon is just as quick as the Lexus IS 250.

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I95SPEEDINGTICKETSI95SPEEDINGTICKETS - 9/7/2006 12:30:13 PM
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The reason there is a slight Hp difference in the two Continents is in the Fuel Mix
The US uses slightly Weaker fuel hence the Jeremy clarkson "Limp Wristed Fairy Juice" Comment :)


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audiotaudiot - 9/7/2006 6:59:06 PM
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efoxS4... you have an A3? Thought you had an S4. Or do you have both? (I have an A3 2.0T coming around Thanksgiving.)

Audiman ... I think your assessment has a ton of merit. I would prefer the car you chose myself, personally.

The only thing I'm not sure about is the quattro.

I've found the dynamic of only 2-wheel drive (either FWD or RWD) can be quite fun in itself. I hear quattro talked about sometimes like it's training wheels. Not something I'm sure I want. But that's a small issue that I have. Lots of people feel the way you do.


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AUDIMAN4AUDIMAN4 - 9/7/2006 7:17:13 PM
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I also drove the IS250 sedan. While a good car, I don't think it's up to par with the BMW, or Audi in sport, and not up to par with the Audi in luxury. I'll tell you why.

Although the 2.5L V6 makes 204 hp (four more than the 2.0t), the car feels sluggish--not even as fast as the 325i. The power delivery also wasn't a smooth--I wasn't impressed with this engine and apparently Ward's wasn't either.

The car is very quiet, and it is obvious it is more focused on luxury. The interior is top-notch, although the materials overall aren't as high quality as the Audi's (but more so than the BMW).

Driving wise, I'd call it a luxury car with sport pretenses. It's not as sporty as either the BMW or Audi but still attemps to be sporting. However, the handling was disappointing, as was the vague, light steering.

Overall, I was disappointed, especially after I found out the damn thing didn't even come with xenons. They want $36k for a car without xenons or Mark Levinson/navigation. Come on.

It's apparent the only reason why this thing is really selling is because of marketing.


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audiotaudiot - 9/7/2006 8:35:00 PM
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If you mean marketing in the sense of the Lexus brand standing for something with consumers, then I would really agree with you. The Lexus factor is a decider for certain people, of course. (Marketing of this particular vehicle I haven't seen much of.) I do think the 'ninja' look of the car is a benefit for some people. The lack of a back seat was a deal-breaker for this family.

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AUDIMAN4AUDIMAN4 - 9/7/2006 11:06:08 PM
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I always wondered how it stood for more than Audi. Both are reputable brands, but Audi's brand image should be above Lexus, based on products, technology, racing history.

The amount of innovation Lexus has been responsible for isn't as great as Audi's contributions.


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audiotaudiot - 9/8/2006 1:53:06 AM
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A difference-maker for Lexus has definitely been advertising. I wish Audi would capitalize on this. People can dismiss advertising, but it is very hard to capture the imagination over 15 years like Lexus has. They've done probably a few hundred thought provoking ads over the years. (Remember champagne glasses on the hood or the ball bearing that ran down the seam?)

Audi's products have the heritage, the racing acumen and the technology (by and large, they lack a sophisticated navigation system) ... but AoA just doesn't put importance enough on creating a relationship with the American consumer. Lexus wasn't afraid to reach out and I think the American personality was a bit flattered by that. Germans have a reputation to maintain, but it doesn't mean they can't reach out to the American driver in their own way. In my mind, Audi is a bit aloof and doesn't know what it wants to say in an advertising message. (Quattro yes, but that's a feature and not a personality.)


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CarMadCarMad - 9/8/2006 4:40:34 AM
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Just a bit more into about new models from Europe for you.

I've got a 2.0T A3 Sportback with the 200bhp and its a little rocket especially with DSG. In the A4 yes we have a 220bhp 2.0T as well now.

Also just about to be added is the 2.0T in the S3 that has been completely upgraded to 265bhp. Its expected to go into the TT as well soon in the same state of tune.

Also expect new FSI tech 3.2 or 3.6 V6 engines for the A4 and TT to be added soon. The current motors are not the most frugal to say the least.

Interesting article above. I've driven both as well and I agree with some but not all of the article. The 6cylinder in the BMW has far more soul that the 2.0T in the A4 that whilst its good as a 4cyl is no match for a BMW 6 in the aural stakes.

Also the Quattro does make the car seem very heavy and lazy on the brakes, its great to get the car moving but really hurts it when you throw it into a bend with all the extra mass.

Interior I agree BMW have lost it a little IMO, I wish they brought back the driver focused look they always had.

All in all both are great cars, as for the IS250, great car from the luxury standpoint but not the most sporting in the world but then thats not the market that its going for.


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