Agent001
Agent001
I like to go top shelf, where Mama hides the cookies
View My AgentSpace

Print this Page | Digg It | del.icio.us

Tags: Safety, Small Cars, Honda Civic, Nissan Versa, Subaru

Tag Links: Safety, Small Cars, Honda Civic, Nissan Versa, Subaru

Agent 001's Fox Segment On The Safety Of Small Cars-Are The Gas Savings Worth It?
High gas prices have many consumers switching to smaller, more fuel efficient cars, but are those compacts safe on the road?

A driver is up to twice as likely to die in a small car than a midsize or larger vehicle.  That's according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

In test after test, the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety also found smaller cars have higher fatality rates than larger ones.

It’s all based on the law of physics.

"When you look at this Explorer here, next to this Honda Civic, it only makes common sense that if you get into an accident you've got more armor around you to protect you,” said Donald Buffamanti.

Buffamanti is the C.E.O. and founder of AutoSpies.com, the insiders guide the world's best automobiles.

He says lighter vehicles are more dangerous but he credits manufacturers like Volkswagen for engineering their compacts to meet high safety standards.

"Their cars are designed to drive on the Autobahn and when you are driving at speeds of 140 miles an hour you have to have a safe car, you have to engineer it differently to take collisions of higher speeds."

When it comes to fuel economy and price, Buffamanti still says the Civic is a great buy.

It’s aerodynamics reduce drag and Buffamanti says the Civic is designed with features like side air bags, so drivers like Melissa Morais don't have to compromise safety.


Agent 001's Fox Segment On The Safety Of Small Cars-Are The Gas Savings Worth It?



Comments:

Images hosted in your AgentSpace can now be posted in the comments section using the following syntax (case matters):
[img]IMAGE URL[/img]
Example: [img]http://agent004.myautospies.com/users/150/Sample-Gallery/sample1.JPG[/img]

holmstarholmstar - 6/20/2008 12:04:43 PM
+4 BoostDrop the Boost Up the Boost
why is it that people never look at it the other way?... Is it worth it to own a heavy car when the risk of injury or death to other drivers is higher due to your choice?

For the record, I own a mid-size car myself, and probably wouldnt go smaller due to the risk of becoming a pancake if I get into an accident with some 3 ton monstrosity.


reply to this comment
gsh23gsh23 - 6/20/2008 12:08:38 PM
+2 BoostDrop the Boost Up the Boost
StarStar - 6/20/2008 12:21:39 PM
+7 BoostDrop the Boost Up the Boost
Oh, please...let's stop trying to find reasons to keep the SUVs on the road. The heavy dinosaurs need to go. Lets get the SUVs OUT of the road and we will all be safer.

reply to this comment
StarStar - 6/20/2008 12:23:07 PM
+2 BoostDrop the Boost Up the Boost
Oh, one more thing. Melissa(the girl in the video) needs driving lessons more than she needs another SUV if she wants to feel safe.


auto001auto001 - 6/20/2008 12:33:45 PM
+1 BoostDrop the Boost Up the Boost
You run the risk of getting hit every time you cross the road, is it worth it?

If everybody thought this way, we would've never ventured outside the caves.


reply to this comment
StarStar - 6/20/2008 12:40:25 PM
+2 BoostDrop the Boost Up the Boost
So should we wear an armour when going to the store? Education(drivers education) is much more important for safety. Bigger "guns" never reduced the chance of getting killed. By contrary, they give you a false sense of security.


WhelanWhelan - 6/20/2008 12:34:17 PM
+2 BoostDrop the Boost Up the Boost
Putting people like soccer moms and business types who pay no attention to driving those behemoths, then yes it is cause for alarm in a small car. When you see a full size SUV doing 80+ on the highway weaving like they are some sport compact or something really irks me. I drive a Matrix and that thing has saved me numerous times. I got rearended recently by a guy doing 40-45, I was doing about 15 when it happened. I had a new bumper and the hatch had a dent, floor pan, and new exhaust system. That's it. His car albeit a small four door was totalled. So I feel my 5 star rating is holding up well. There are many articles on how safe small cars are.

reply to this comment
IVANURI97IVANURI97 - 6/20/2008 1:02:51 PM
+2 BoostDrop the Boost Up the Boost
The real issue is driver distraction. We need better laws with proper enforsement of them to better the safety of all drivers.

I was rear-ended last year in my 2000 Integra, I was stopped and a Dodge Grand Caravan doing about 35-40 hit me pushing me into the truck in front of me and the truck into the car in front of that, 4 cars involved total. My car did the proper job of protecting me, albeit was totaled. The problem was that the driver of the other car was on the phone/blackberry and just didn't see me stopped in rush hour traffic on a clear day. I live in VA and thus far the state does not have the handsfree law, but we all need to focus on driving, that's all. Most cars will withstand a crash overall. It's those people you see doing 80 while texting that cause accidents.


reply to this comment
ShredmoShredmo - 6/20/2008 1:42:53 PM
0 BoostDrop the Boost Up the Boost
How is it that a VW is considered safer than the Honda by the owner of this site? Anyone looked into all the crash stats? Honda has a higher percentage of "safest" vehicles on the road compared to VW PERIOD. Look at Subaru, the overall safest manufacturer on the road. Not even mentioned, though most of their cars are compact to mid-size. We could also talk about Merc C class.

Give me a break.


reply to this comment
WhelanWhelan - 6/20/2008 2:19:02 PM
0 BoostDrop the Boost Up the Boost
It's called bias and this site is very. Its a big anti Jap, pro German board but some interesting discussions do pop up and get me involved.

However you can tell this by looking at the most recent article on trucks. Once again it's Toyota sucking. But I have yet to see an article about GM or Ford cutting production. I did see the article on Yahoo though that Ford is delaying its new F150 and scaling back production along with forecasting worse profits than last year. But you won't see that here.



Agent00JAgent00J - 6/20/2008 3:35:04 PMView My AgentSpace
+1 BoostDrop the Boost Up the Boost
Agent 001 was using VW as an example of a safe German car, he did not state at any time that it was the safest German car.

Bias has nothing to do with safety, he could have also referenced BMW or Mercedes in talking about safety, however the price points of those cars are above those of VW, and as such a larger segment of the market can afford a VW versus the BMW or MB.

Do not read into his statement a bias as there is none present.

-00J



StarStar - 6/20/2008 3:54:30 PM
+2 BoostDrop the Boost Up the Boost
Whelan " Its a big anti Jap, pro German board "

That's the funniest thing I've read all day. Take a look at who gets deboosted on this site, German enthusiasts or Japanese fanatics?
German enthusiasts are simply terrorized by the Japanese flock of sheep and you think the site is pro German? Ha, ha, ha...



atomicbriatomicbri - 6/20/2008 10:15:11 PMView My AgentSpace
0 BoostDrop the Boost Up the Boost
VW is safer, check out the crash tests.... DUH!


TheSailorTheSailor - 6/20/2008 2:37:07 PMView My AgentSpace
+6 BoostDrop the Boost Up the Boost
WHAT THE?!? 001, do you actually have any engineering insight into what is happening during a crash and what crash engineering is all about or are you just talking as a lay man?

An SUV meaning more armour?! Sure... If you are going to plough through a house, a heavy SUV is better suited, but in a crash, you don't want armour! You want energy dissipation! The crash safety of a car has very little to do with the size of it! As soon as you get over the super compacts (like the Smart), it doesn't have to do with armour anymore! It has to do with how the car disintegrates around you, moves the energy of the crash away from the passenger compartment and how softly it will decelerate! The lower deceleration, the higher the chance of surviving! Actually, in many cases, an SUV will be more dangerous to it's occupants because they tent to be build with very stiff chassis rails. These are enormously good at carrying a heavy car, but at the same time, they are incredibly bad at dissipating energy meaning all the energy is transferred directly to the occupants! And at the same time, the high center of gravity means that you have an incredibly high risk of rolling over or flipping up during a violent crash! And the huge weight of an SUV means increased braking distances and higher strain on the brakes. And it means that there is more energy to dissipate in the event of crashing into a stationary object (like a tree which probably won't move)! Ohh... And lets not forget the appalling handling of most SUVs! That means that you have a much lower chance of dodging an accident because the car is less responsive!

The safe european cars 001 is talking about (Actually, asian cars in europe are pretty safe as well, the only ones lacking are the american ones strangely enough) come in every size and shape! Even the french knows how to make small cars very safe, so it really can't be that hard! And if you look at the Euro NCAP which doesn't rate the safety of a small car any different than that of a large car, you can see that many of the cars you (in the US in general) would call compacts or even super compacts achieve five star ratings to boot! Even though they are barely half the size of your average american SUV!

There is absolutely no reasonable explanation for why people have to drive around in SUVs! And saying it is because they are safer is just down to them being ignorant! A small car can be just as safe as a huge SUV (and in many cases even safer)! But people care more about cup-holders and in car entertainment than actual passenger safety, because "how big is the risk of you having a serious accident after all?" Right?!

If I had to choose between some random SUV and the Civic from a safety point of view, I'd take the Civic!

And I would like to finish by apologizing to everybody for this little rant, but PUHHLEASE!!! Get your head out of that F'ing hole! An SUV DOES NOT = Safety!!!


reply to this comment
eric452eric452 - 6/20/2008 3:30:12 PMView My AgentSpace
+2 BoostDrop the Boost Up the Boost
well said sailor

your correct many high rated cars from Euro NCAP are small cars.



85bmw745i85bmw745i - 6/20/2008 5:01:42 PMView My AgentSpace
+1 BoostDrop the Boost Up the Boost
Thank you Salior!!! You are absolutely 100% right. Thats what I try to tell people. I couldn't have said it better.


atomicbriatomicbri - 6/20/2008 10:19:22 PMView My AgentSpace
+1 BoostDrop the Boost Up the Boost
You are definitely right sailor! SUVs for years have not held up well in crash tests. Sure they are bigger and have some momentum in an accident, however many are still like tin cans with little in passive safety, poor side impact beams, no roof support in a roll over, etc.
Also I believe America needs more stringent exams in order to get a license. I am all for having like 1500 hrs of testing and driving courses before you can drive. That would keep a lot of poor drivers out of the highways!



TheSailorTheSailor - 6/20/2008 5:17:15 PMView My AgentSpace
+1 BoostDrop the Boost Up the Boost
Just thought I'd follow up on my post...

"In test after test, the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety also found smaller cars have higher fatality rates than larger ones."

That is funny, because according to Euro NCAP, the superminis have quite a track record when it comes to safety... Even I am overwhelmed by the number of "superminis" achieving five star ratings! Cars as small as the Fiat 500 have received five stars... Something even the Jeep Grand Cherokee can match... Actually, only three of the large SUVs tested by NCAP have gotten a five star rating...

Check it out... http://www.euroncap.com/tests.aspx


reply to this comment
atomicbriatomicbri - 6/20/2008 10:22:49 PMView My AgentSpace
+1 BoostDrop the Boost Up the Boost
Also what I find funny is that on their web site they state this:

"First Institute crash tests of Smart car: diminutive two-seater earns top ratings for protecting people in front & side crashes"

Top ratings??? I thought they were death traps according to this news story, and this is from the same IIHS.... contradiction at its finest



EvoAudiEvoAudi - 6/20/2008 9:57:50 PMView My AgentSpace
+2 BoostDrop the Boost Up the Boost
This is just typical consumer brainwashing.

Why is it that in the U.S.A, people just think about what happens if they crash instead of just driving safely? Just pay more attention and you'll be fine.


reply to this comment
saudi_ali1982saudi_ali1982 - 6/21/2008 11:37:42 AM
+1 BoostDrop the Boost Up the Boost
Accidents are inevitable, buying a bigger car does make more sense in countries where big cars are widley available...ie the states

but when you go to germany, france and many parts of europe you notice that the presence of a big car has downsized becuase when you pay 10 dollars a gallon you're definately sticking with a mini or a smart. the biggest income bracket in those countries is the middle class and most wanna stick to their class and avoid dropping down to lower coz of the raising gaz prices.....

another reason is the super expensive parking (NYC parking prices is pocket change compared to londons), adding to that parking spaces are also limited even in your own residence...


reply to this comment
RupertRupert - 6/21/2008 7:43:54 PMView My AgentSpace
+1 BoostDrop the Boost Up the Boost
London parking charges are insane. In some places it's 1 pound for every 20 minutes. But then again, nobody actually needs to drive into London when there are tubes, buses, bicycles and legs that will do it cheaper and quicker.


AE86AE86 - 6/26/2008 11:43:55 PM
+1 BoostDrop the Boost Up the Boost
VW Jetta or Suburban, you will die in a 140 mph crash.

reply to this comment
gregsfcgregsfc - 6/28/2008 7:47:09 AM
+1 BoostDrop the Boost Up the Boost
American car safety regulations are ignorant! They keep us from moving forward in efficiency.

On the one hand, our choices are limited on cars through over regulation. We can pick a car or SUV that gets a five-star crash rating (front, side and rear), tire monitoring (which was mandated because we decided that Americans couldn't monitor our own tire pressures, thus we would pass the cost on to all of us), low rollover risk (because Americans weren't smart enough to know if their driving a truck/SUV, they must be more careful), smart seat belts, 3rd-generation air bags, anti-slip, ESP, and on and on to keep one safe on the road.

...but on the other hand, another can go out and buy a crotch rocket motor cycle that can achieve none of these safety features; be allowed to run side-by-side in a lane, have no limit on fuel efficiency, no limit on speed or acceleration, and have nothing to keep him or her from killing himself or herself in a heartbeat.

Why the double standard? Why so much regulation on one type of road vehicle, but allow others to drive death traps!


reply to this comment

To post a comment for this story, you must first Login.

If you do not have an account, you will need to Register (It's Free!).

Most Recent Stories
Hyundai Compares Themselves To Competitors After Genesis Scores 5 Star Crash ResultsIf The Keys For Both Of These Cars Were On The Table, Which Would You Pick Up?Lexus IS Convertible coming next year, lightweight IS-F in the worksSpy Shots of new Mercedes taken by yours truly!Teach An New Dog Old Tricks? Lexus Debuts The quattro Inspired LS460 AWD In MoscowForget A Sub-Compact If Want To Save Real Money Just Buy a Gas Hog!Chrysler Considers Selling The Viper As A Brand!Audi Offers Race Ready R8's To The PublicBMW's M6 Gets Put On Notice- Audi's 570 HP RS5 Caught On US SoilMcLaren working on family of supercars for 2009Revealed: Splinter wooden supercarGM releases GTR-style multi-function displayFiat Portofino concept re-creates 1960s beach carsNext-generation Mazda MX-5 will be more dramaticIf Lexus Isn't NERVOUS, It Should BE!Why Is BMW Backing Away From Performance? The M3 CSL Bites The Dust!Is It On Your Short List? Hyundai Counts On Fallout From Lexus, BMW, And Others For Genesis SalesDetroits Three Muscle Cars Hang Out: Camaro, Challenger and MustangProduction Buick Riviera cancelledCadillac version of the Volt hybrid in the worksAutomakers Expect Yet Another Dismal Sales Month For AugustBeen Waiting For Your First Look At The Official 2009 BMW Order Guides? We Got Em!Toyota Management Caught In A Struggle Between Profit Or SalesPeugeot could return to the USA Final Tribute: Paul Newman Takes His Last Lap Around Lime RockOC.T unveils 550hp Audi S3 BiturboRenault Twingo RS revealedNew Cadillac CTS-V Schools BMW M5?Revealed: Camaro SSWidebody SLK on sale in U.S. First official teaser for Buick LaCrosse First Fast and Furious 4 trailer Audi A4 Avant by CaractereAudi RS6 Splits In Half And The Driver LIVES!!!!What Are The Modern Day Classics Amongst Us?Audi Overtakes BMW As Top Place To Work For Graduate By Students In GermanyBMW and Lexus Top The Best Designed Luxury Vehicles List For 2008SOUND OFF: Detroit Lobbies For Your Tax Dollars To Bail Them Out!Toyota Overtakes GMAC In First Half As Biggest US Auto LenderUp To Measure: Is The 2009 Volkswagen Passat CC Really A Half-Price CLS?Audi's Entry Level A3 Out Classes The Lexus LS Self Park FeatureBugatti working on four-door model and 270mph super VeyronNew small 4-cylinder Cadillac sedan due out in 2010Infinti G37 cabrio will be bigger than the coupeMercedes already working on CL facelift2010 Mercedes-Benz GLK 350 4MATIC Test DriveBest Luxury Sports SUV???CHEAP Leases Are Going The Way Of The Dinosaur-What's A Luxury Brand Moocher To Do?What We Know About The 2010 Jaguar XJBespoke Rolls-Royce Peony Phantom to arrive in Abu Dhabi