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Alternative Nation: Hybrids and Electric Cars Are Coming – But What Will You Drive?
It has been an interesting two weeks locally as Hurricane Ike knocked out a critical gas pipeline which supplies Middle Tennessee and surrounding areas.  Gas shortages became the norm with the market finally settling back down within the past 3 days, however long lines with frustrated drivers certainly gave credence to looking at alternative means of transportation.

Chevrolet has made a lot of news recently as official information pours out making some pretty bold claims for their new Volt sedan.  After some extensive negotiation Chevrolet will be able to claim the Volt achieves 100 MPG, a number that dwarfs the EPA numbers of the Toyota Prius and Honda Civic hybrids.

And although I have really been a staunch opponent of Hybrids and other alternative modes of transportations, after experiencing gas shortages coupled with long lines, the reality of reality is the fact that it doesn’t take much to knock out a fuel supply, and I know at 14-15 MPG in my car I spent a lot more time sweating where to find gas next than someone driving a fuel efficient Prius or Civic.

But are you ready to make the switch, and if so which route would you go.

The Chevrolet Volt is a compelling option in a specialized market.  Capable of being a daily driver that plugs in at night, the thought of fuel stops being a few and far between notion makes this vehicle one that I think will sell extremely well for Chevrolet.  The fact that an American maker is bringing this technological advancement to market is a bright spot as well.

The Toyota Prius has been with us for a number of years now.  Due to be redesigned, the current generation has sold extremely well for Toyota, often with waiting lists as customers demand more and more fuel efficiency.  Given Toyota’s reputation for quality, the Prius has also maintained high resale values as their owners motor silently around town.

Honda offers two alternatives, the Civic Hybrid along with a Natural Gas propelled Civic as well.  Sales were brisk this past summer as gas prices soared, and dealers sensing an opportunity to cash in tacked on “market adjustment” profits onto the bottom line.

What if we reached a point where a gas powered car no longer made sense however?  While hybrid and alternative vehicles are only a niche market right now, a time may come in the not so distant future where gas is scarce, and the supply we do have is accompanied by long lines of frustrated drivers.

So let’s pretend for a moment that cars powered solely by gas where no longer sold, given the options currently available along with the Chevrolet Volt, what will you drive?

As much as I hope that day never comes, the reality is it just might come to fruition, I just want you to be prepared.

So go ahead, enlighten the rest of us with your alternative


Alternative Nation:  Hybrids and Electric Cars Are Coming – But What Will You Drive?



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LexusLexus - 9/28/2008 1:50:00 AM
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I would definitely get this new Chevy Volt, or wait for the plug-in Prius hybrid which rumor to get 140+ mpg.

Lexus


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993Turbo993Turbo - 9/28/2008 3:45:53 PM
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I love the Volt but how can they "reveal" the car fully two years before its for sale? Talk about teaser fatigue! That's worse than the Camaro!


BJS470BJS470 - 9/28/2008 3:03:01 AM
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Segway Scooter

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djrickpdjrickp - 9/28/2008 7:00:27 AM
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Bugatti Veyron

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Cornholio852Cornholio852 - 9/30/2008 9:53:09 AM
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Nice Alternitive


Designer1Designer1 - 9/28/2008 8:17:44 AM
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I would drive either a Toyota or Honda.

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StarStar - 9/28/2008 10:01:04 AM
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Something fun, obviously not a hybrid or an electric car.

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tesla311tesla311 - 9/28/2008 1:39:19 PM
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drive a tesla roadster and you won't be able to wipe the smile off for hours on end.


StarStar - 9/28/2008 1:52:40 PM
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I don't think so...I prefer real cars.


1dott81dott8 - 9/28/2008 12:11:31 PMView My AgentSpace
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a diesel powered anything

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t_bonet_bone - 9/28/2008 12:27:34 PM
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I'd drive an electric NOW, and I would do so even if without enviromental issues AND even with 10 cent gas.

I despise gas engines, they have pathetic torque characteristics (we're now catering to its sorry state with 7 gears), tons of maintenance, thousands of parts and sub-systems.

Electric can easily give us 500 lbs of torque right off the line, zero maintenance, and low operating costs. The only thing holding us back is better batteries and a kick-ass nuclear infrastructure, with pebble-bed reactors in every town.

And if you're still dragging your knuckles over the idea that electric is "weak" go to Lowes and hold a 36-volt cordless circular saw to your head and pull the trigger. Are you feeling lucky?


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LexSucksLexSucks - 9/28/2008 12:44:58 PM
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I'd never drive anyone of those things. Gas would have to go up to around $20/Gallon for me to even consider any one of those electrical appliances.

Sorry to popular belief but fun/fast cars are not going anywhere. Only the gloom-and-Doom retards believe that crap.


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enthusiastx11enthusiastx11 - 9/28/2008 1:18:39 PM
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a 335d. quite simply, the best balance of performance and efficiency you can buy.

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S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 9/28/2008 1:32:10 PMView My AgentSpace
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I wasn't impressed with its EPA ratings. I would've forgone AWD in the 335xi just to have the 335d's MPG and torque, but IMO it's not enough of an improvement. They should've brought us the 330d instead.


WorldofLuxuryWorldofLuxury - 9/28/2008 3:35:04 PM
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nah...the new clean diesels really aren't that efficient anymore. Unlike the old times when the diesel models and the fuel were both cheap, it's now like any heavily taxed gasoline vehicles.


StarStar - 9/28/2008 5:33:57 PM
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Stop the propaganda!!! This is NOT an environmental site, is a CAR enthusiast site. Take your "Greenpeace" mumbo-jumbo somewhere else.

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StarStar - 9/28/2008 8:04:07 PM
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No, you shut up RETARD! I don't want to hear you spewing your propaganda on a car site. You are a tool, not a car enthusiast and I don't give a rats ass on your "concern" about environment. You can choose to drive electric appliances if that's what you want but I'm not giving up my right to enjoy driving a proper car just because some "green" asses want me to. With what's going in the world at this time the last thing I'm concerned about is how much driving an internal combustion engine affects the future. The future is f***ed anyway.

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StarStar - 9/28/2008 9:37:50 PM
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Ha, ha, ha....you lazy cockroach. Making the world a better place... Oh, poor hippie, brainwashed idiot who doesn't even know what is talking about. Making the world a better place has nothing to do with the BS green message you and your sect are trying to push on people. You want a better world...then keep a low profile, scum and let people enjoy their lives. Like I said, if you want to drive in an electric shopping cart I am fine with that but expect to eat the exhaust gases coming from my C63 every single day until you die. Millions of people are dying of hunger right now and the green idiot is worried about the air quality centuries from now. F***ing moron!

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kylenkylen - 9/29/2008 3:37:32 AM
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Poeple like u "Star" deserve to get shot in the head without warning.

Gasoline/diesel cars is old and classic.
Its not our fault that we dont drive elektric cars, its the manafacturers who dont give as any reasonable alternatives. A electric car would be nice, but there arent many to choose from so if everyone decidede to change at once, they would all be driving the same car.

Everybody wants to be diffrent.
But you "Star" ur not a car enthusiast, ur not even close to being one. I despice people like you.




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StarStar - 9/29/2008 1:58:45 PM
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kylen,

Are you illiterate boy?

"Poeple like u"
"cars is old"
"elektric"
"A electric car"
"I despice people like you"

Get your a** back in school, clown.


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E36erE36er - 9/29/2008 2:01:43 PM
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bimmerfan25, do you drive a hybrid yourself? Just wondering.

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Cornholio852Cornholio852 - 9/30/2008 10:03:56 AM
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Calm down Star,

BimmerFan25 has got a point we ALL need to go green, but you have a point too. there are worse things than pollutions in the world right now. BOTH have to be changed for the 22nd Century.

Eletric cars dont have to be boring, and hopefully eletric cars will one day be able to give the ride, Speed, and power that entusist want from a car but untill then there are still cars that are great to drive and are "Green" so to speak.


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AudiphileAudiphile - 9/28/2008 4:55:15 PM
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I'd check out the Chevy Volt. If the car did not come with a Sport Package (more powerful generator/battery, high-performance tires, sport suspension, etc.), I'd opt either for the BMW 335d or the Audi A4 3.0 TDI.

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topneurotopneuro - 9/28/2008 5:59:19 PM
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E92_M_PowerE92_M_Power - 9/29/2008 10:58:21 AM
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minhvunguyenminhvunguyen - 9/28/2008 10:51:01 PM
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Star, I understand your right. Just out of curiosity, what's your favorite car manufacturer(s)?

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StarStar - 9/29/2008 2:10:06 PM
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Mercedes, BMW and Porsche are my favorite car manufacturers but since I buy a new car every 6 months or so, I cannot stick with them exclusively.



StarStar - 9/29/2008 2:15:26 PM
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...and when it comes to something more affordable I really like VWs too especially since in US they have no competition. In Europe you have nice offerings from Renault, Ford or even Seat when you look for a fun car but in US the only fun to drive cars that are affordable are made by VW.


Cornholio852Cornholio852 - 9/30/2008 10:09:00 AM
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And just out of Curiosity Star,
What do you do to finance these cars every 6 months?

and plese before you get all fanboy on me just note that there is no hostility in this question, i just want to know



StarStar - 10/1/2008 10:19:26 PM
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"What do you do to finance these cars every 6 months?"


I'm not sure I understand your question. Well...

There is no restriction in how many car loans you can get in a year, if that's your question. I financed 5 brand new cars in one year switching them one after another and more than 40 to date. I didn't encounter any problem, plus there was never a "charge" for having the loan paid off extremely early(but that's something you have to make sure is written on your finance contract). I should mention though that the value of the cars I trade is always higher than the pay off so there is always an amount that goes toward the next car. Banks like that. I should also mention that I only buy brand new cars. I hope that answers your question.



topneurotopneuro - 9/28/2008 11:15:37 PM
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Some of these retards make Leona Hemsley look like Mother Theresa. Sorry calling these guys retards is an insult to the mentally retarded. Electric vehicles (1834) preceded internal combustion engines vehicles.

http://www.speedace.info/electric_vehicle_history.htm

http://avt.inl.gov/pdf/fsev/history.pdf

The “natural selection” to gasoline power only was an operational/fuel cost and range issue. GM also helped by buying all San Francisco trolleys and replacing them with buses and destroying all EV1’s. The operational/cost and range issue is changing very fast, electric cars will soon closely match Tesla standards.
http://www.teslamotors.com/
The Tesla can out perform most present street legal gasoline vehicles.

Mercedes Benz C63 0- 60 mph = 4.6 seconds
Tesla 0- 60 mph = 3.9 seconds
tzero 0- 60 mph = 3.6 seconds

Fastest gasoline car, Bugatti Veyron 16.4 = 253.3 mph.
Fastest electric car, Buckeye Bullet = 321.8 mph.

If you fail to see the transition from gas to electric as the future of performance cars (100% Torque, 100% of the Time) enjoy the view of the Tesla tail lights on your MB C63.


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tesla311tesla311 - 9/30/2008 10:45:23 AM
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tesla ftw


WhelanWhelan - 9/29/2008 12:28:44 PM
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If I had to choose one of the mentioned, it would be the Volt, best looking so far, by far. But since I am not at that point yet, I will stick to my other choices.

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lambo98lambo98 - 9/30/2008 12:59:57 AM
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volt but im worried that when i get old enough 4 a car they will all be like teckno ugly looking

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