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Are Jaguar and Land Rover living slow death after Tata purchase?

rhp1462 submitted on 7/31/2008 Official Bell & Ross Timestamp: 9:11:52 AM

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Recently Tata Motors of India purchase legendary car marquees like land rover and jaguar.

Tata motors have a lot to gain from this deal as they will have tomorrow’s technology today buy just buying these brands and introduce their technology to Indian car market without going through tedious process of r&d. well that is what Tata thought of before buying these brands. What will happen to those brands when current technologies go out of date and time comes to developing new ones? Are they going to be able to develop new technology at the pace of their competitors like Bmw, Audi, Mb, and even Gm? Are those great brands eventually die or left out of race? What does future holds for these brands and Tata?

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Maverick2020

I think it's a little too early to tell what Tata will do or potentially screw up.

Jaguar is not going to be Mercedes or have huge volumes. Instead it should be positioned as a premium niche brand. They should be thinking of worldwide volumes of 200-250,000 instead of the million that was once their goal.

Land Rover, the same. Very focused, very high quality, very aesthetically driven AWD and SUV offerings. But not aiming for world domination, just the finest.

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Posted on 7/31/2008 10:11:21 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4   

drake0707

Land rover, high quality? The worse reports for reliability out of any premium sport utility. Tell me maverick, where do you get your information? Next might I hear that the AMC should still be making highline cars?

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Posted on 7/31/2008 11:28:55 AM | | Votes: 4   

adamsaf723

I don't think he was calling Land Rover high quality, I think he was referring to what they need to change in order to not suffer a miserable fate.

Land Rover has great technologies, they just aren't built well. Tata has a great opportunity to turn a great looking product into a great quality product as well.

Jaguar also has a great chance to change its reputation. With the XK and XF looking as good as they do, if they could come out with a great looking X-Type volume car again, it could possibly gain some of the younger market. Their cars are becoming much more bold, and I would hate to see them go under right when they are starting to look good.

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Posted on 7/31/2008 11:41:19 AM | | Votes: 6   

Maverick2020

The qualities I listed are what Land Rover should be shooting for. JDPA IQS studies currently rank LR very low.

However, my own experience owning 2 Range Rovers, they were flawless--have not had a major problem. Can't say that about other high-line vehicles I have owned.

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Posted on 7/31/2008 11:41:55 AM | | Votes: 1   

woood

Definitely not.

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Posted on 7/31/2008 11:19:17 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4   

rhp1462

Well we are not talking about their present we are discusing their future.

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Posted on 7/31/2008 11:39:40 AM | | Votes: 0   

adamsaf723

I'm a little more curious on the fate of Hummer

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Posted on 7/31/2008 11:41:32 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4   

rhp1462

well there are talks about hummer and as far as i know they are not as global as land rover so if tata does buy it, they better make it global so they can reap profits out of it as hummer has to be imported indipendently in many euro-asian countries. if they buy it and sell it locally than its just another docter checking on dying dog.

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Posted on 7/31/2008 11:44:27 AM | | Votes: -1   

cdoke

Simply- No. Tata has already budgeted $2 billion for the company, and it won't need such help forever. Combined the business is profitable. Second, many of the technologies in cars are not actually developed by the car maker. The biggest example is probably transmissions. Jaguar does not make transmissions, they buy them from ZF to be specific. I could go on...

As a note in regard to some previous posts, Jaguar intends to sell far less than 250,000 cars per year; they intend to sell 80,000 worldwide per annum. In fact, much of the problem with today's Jaguar is the result of them trying to sell that many cars. Oh, and yes, there are no plans to replace the X-type (thank goodness)

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Posted on 7/31/2008 12:49:17 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

rhp1462

thanks for the comment. u made a really good point. something new i learnt.

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Posted on 7/31/2008 12:51:29 PM | | Votes: 1   

EL34

Are Jaguar and Land Rover living slow death after Tata purchase?

no.

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Posted on 7/31/2008 1:29:22 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

ubercool

Jag and LR will do very well under Tata.

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Posted on 7/31/2008 2:35:18 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

iepurilah

If you ask me, Ford did a bad deal selling these two and I think Tata will manage them well.

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Posted on 7/31/2008 2:51:31 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

truthpursuit

The first thing they need to do is improve their dealer network.Most dealers have been barely keeping their head above water.Its hard to keep the doors open if your new car volume and\or gross per copy is low.When this happens you can't spend the money in service to take care of your existing customers ie. Loaner cars etc.

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Posted on 7/31/2008 3:17:58 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

xj13

NO,no,no and NO.

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Posted on 7/31/2008 8:30:18 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Tour18

Obviously the Asian business community can plan and execute business enterprise much better than those in the West.

It would not surprise me to see wonderful things come from Jaguar. I have never owned one, but...

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Posted on 8/2/2008 10:19:36 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

EnnNorak

I never owned a Jag either because it was always overpriced and I look for value like Audi's A6 or the VW Passat that I recently bought. I must admit though that I came real close to buying an XKE half a century ago when that car was the cat's meow (pun intended).

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Posted on 8/7/2008 7:07:07 PM | | Votes: 0   

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