Audi Admidts US Sales May Slip in 2008

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— EnnNorak (View Profile)

Posted on 4/28/2008 6:57:58 PM | | Votes: 0   

Wrong. Show me an all wheel drive luxury car with a V6 that gets better than 18/27 EPA mpg. (That's what the A5 gets) You will get a cookie if you can find one. [Hint, BMW doesn't have one]

— chewy (View Profile)

Posted on 4/28/2008 11:47:07 PM | | Votes: -1   

well given the fact that the 335xi with a 300hp twin turbo can get times faster than the 340 hp "13" mpg S4, and keep up with the "14" mpg S5 and get 17 25 i think there is your fuel efficiency problem right there.....since all the Audi people keep saying that it competes with the S cars the "306" hp G35 will also get this 17 25.....oh and for the record the Lexus IS250 gets better gas mileage than the A5....that and the current model "A4" gets gas mileage equal to its so called S4, and S5 competition so go figure....

— bmwdrvr (View Profile)

Posted on 4/29/2008 6:36:06 AM | | Votes: 1   

Who the hell cares about fuel economy when you'v got an V8 S4/S5. For 335i drivers i could imagine why, because it's allot cheaper then the S5.

And talking about V6's, what about the BMW 330i or Mercedes C350? Are they slow and underpowered too?

— Heyhuub (View Profile)

Posted on 4/29/2008 8:46:08 AM | | Votes: 0   

Audi is and always was underpowered. I want an S5 cause of the looks and the interior but cant justify paying 8k more for the s5 over the bmw 335xi. Identical performace with the 8k i save factoring in pricing and the free maintenance from bmw i can get the dinan software for 1500 doesnt void any warentee cause its from bmw. that gives me 384 hp all wheel drive and 6600 saved over the s5 and it gives me m3 performance.

— markanthony0419 (View Profile)

Posted on 4/29/2008 9:17:35 AM | | Votes: -3   

Don't listen to Chewy...he only appears to defend his precious Audi. He even defends the slo-mo-fo V6 - you know he's a fanatic! Audi can do no wrong and don't deserve any criticism according to Chewbaka.

— raikkonen (View Profile)

Posted on 4/29/2008 10:00:48 AM | | Votes: -3   

oh and heyhuub you may want to check the price on a 335xi compared to an S5 and than tell me if it is so much cheaper, while the S5 has a higher entry price a 335xi equipped like the S5 including 19 inch wheels is right there with it in price you can always tell a non car enthusisast but someone with a brand bias when they switch to price to explain why a car is better anyone that can afford a Camry running some 30-35 grand im sure could afford more if they wanted to. All audi did was load and OVERPRICE the car to appear out of the G37,and 335i's class while offering dismal fuel economy which hey is important now adays, whether you can afford it or not. If jaguar as old as its engines are can get better epa ratings from a Jaguar XKR with 420hp, i think Audi could be a little more responsible and produce a car that has 350hp which now adays isnt braggins rights in this class and get decent gas mileage....oh and on the 255hp 330i, and 268hp C350 both of which will keep up with or outrun the A5 all while offering real steering feedback and a good ride no they arent underpowered but if it takes 265hp to get to 60 in 6.1 seconds from a coupe the size of A5 maybe it is....

— bmwdrvr (View Profile)

Posted on 4/29/2008 10:34:19 AM | | Votes: 0   

Let's not talk about the pathetic economy ratings of BMW's V8's and V10 then.
The BMW 650i weighs exacly the same as the Audi S5, produces only slightly more power and despite it's RWD vs the AWD Audi it's milage is exacly the same as that of the S5.
Or the how about the Audi A8 4.2 FSI. Again despite the AWD it can achieve better milage the allot less powerfull 740i and the slightly more powerfull yet slower 750i.

Not to mention the RS6 vs the M5. Where the RS6 is more powerfull, faster, heavier, has a conventional automatic and has AWD it still provides a better combined milage of 17MPG versus the 15.9 MPG of the BMW M5.

At that both the more powerfull 273hp and 272hp 330i and C350 are slower to 62 then the new 265hp A4 3.2 quattro.

— Heyhuub (View Profile)

Posted on 4/29/2008 12:37:40 PM | | Votes: -1   

"and keep up with the "14" mpg S5"

That's the thing, it can't. On top of what Heyhuub said (great post!), the S5 is about 4 tenths of a second quicker than the 335xi. 4.8 is the 335xi's best time; it has yet to achieve it more than once. The S5 has achieved consistent 4.5-4.8 sec times.

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 4/29/2008 5:52:51 PM | | Votes: -2   

bmwdrvr/ any one else I challange you to find a luxury car with a V6/I6 (over 250 hp at minimum) that has AWD and gets over 18/27. (the A5, and new A4 satisfy all of these requirements) Go ahead and search

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/findacar.htm

comeback and report your findings

And the RS4 with 420 hp and more torque, and AWD gets 13/20 compared to 14/20 for the M3.

— chewy (View Profile)

Posted on 4/29/2008 6:28:36 PM | | Votes: -3   

S4 always getting facts wrong first off the car that most mags test is the 335i not the 335xi the 335i has on more than one occasion, mag, and test gotten a 4.8 second 0-60 with the highest test time ive seen being 5.2, the S5 gets somewhere between 4.8-5.2, with 2 more cylinders and a 14 mpg epa rating hmmm less than the get this 7.0 liter Z06 with 150 more horsepower. In fact the 335xi is faster than the 335i. So save the Bias, Facts speak louder.....its ashame if anyone else reads how unfactual these Audi fans post are they will see they dont know cars. a 335xi not fully loaded but optioned like a 54,000 S5, could run into 56,000....how comical to say people would buy a 335i would be concerned about fuel economy because it is cheaper than the gass guzzling S5 simply because AUDI cant get the performance of its competition without getting truck like epa ratings. As many diesel cars that are out there to improve MPG, including the AUDI diesels, how ignorrant to say only people that cant afford things care about fuel economy. If the hand me down brand AUDI can find ways to make high end diesels for the sheer purpose of getting more MPG but hey thats the crazed AUDI I imagine it paints a poor picture of those that these hand me down cars appeal to

— bmwdrvr (View Profile)

Posted on 4/29/2008 9:29:36 PM | | Votes: 2   

Audi has one of the smallest loss of sales in 08 compared to the competition.

— chewy (View Profile)

Posted on 4/28/2008 11:44:22 PM | | Votes: 0   

Yea...a million cars. 900,000 of which are Golfs...oops, I mean A3's.

— raikkonen (View Profile)

Posted on 4/29/2008 12:38:03 PM | | Votes: 2   

Yeah and BMW mostly sells pathetic 116i and 316i's

— Heyhuub (View Profile)

Posted on 4/29/2008 1:47:42 PM | | Votes: 0   

Unamazingbimmer is truly an amazingidiot.

— 4x4rules (View Profile)

Posted on 5/1/2008 5:41:38 PM | | Votes: 2