Audi R8 Smoked By Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG Wagon.

weaponX submitted on 07/14/2008 Official AutoSpies Timestamp: 11:33 PM
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Tags: Audi R8 Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG

Audi R8 Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG

Few sports cars at any price have garnered as much attention and accolade as the sexy, saucy, and very fast Audi R8. So imagine one being outgunned by a housewife in, of all things, a station wagon. That’s exactly what could happen with this über-fast and über-rare über-wagen, the Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG wagon.

Picture it: you’re at the wheel of your brand-new R8. A black Benz E-class pulls up, and the driver puts down her phone long enough to toss you a sideways glance over her latte followed by a nod to the horizon. Surely she jests. An E-class against an R8? This should be easy, you think. As the light turns green, you notice the “6.3” badge on the fender and hear wheelspin. Uh oh.

You get on it with all four wheels gripping. Your ears are pinned back as you blast to 60 in four seconds flat, neck and neck with the Benz. 100 mph and what’s this? She’s pulling away! Then you start to get a view of the sheetmetal aft of the B-pillar: she’s in a station wagon! A quarter-mile later, she’s still pulling away. At 130 mph, are those her kids laughing in the rear-facing jump seats? Within 23.5 seconds, she’s at 150, 1.2 seconds before you. Mercedes’s seven-passenger station wagon will outaccelerate the R8 all the way to its 155-mph governor. And now the driver is probably back on her pink Razr to tell her BFFs all about it.

Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG wagon --- Audi R8
0–60: 4.0 seconds --- 0–60: 4.0 seconds
1/4: 12.5 @ 115 mph --- 1/4: 12.6 @ 113 mph

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eric452 - 7/14/2008 11:54:56 PMView My AgentSpace

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Volkswagon R8 smoked by Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG

well u think?

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audirevolution - 7/14/2008 11:56:09 PM

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You spelt Volkswagen wrong. Idiot.
And the R8 shares more with the Lamborghini Gallardo than any VW..

motor1 - 7/15/2008 12:09:43 AM

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And the Lamborghini Gallardo is Volkswagen

eric452 - 7/15/2008 1:01:18 AMView My AgentSpace

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i am using a german accent thruoght my typing
so it would be folkswagon

hao420 - 7/15/2008 1:19:31 AM

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Calm down,Volkswagen fan/s

Agent63 - 7/15/2008 1:55:03 AMView My AgentSpace

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How is an R8 a VW?

Anyways the E63 is a beautiful car. I'm not surprised it can beat an R8 straight line power. Mercedes is a top notch company building superb engines.

steve27t - 7/15/2008 4:08:45 AM

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Top gear did tests comparing Merc's AMG cars with their competition and on a track, any track, the Mercs are crap. At the first bend the R8 would be out of sight, you can write these articles till the cows come home but they are pretty meaningless.

EL34 - 7/15/2008 11:13:07 AM

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hmmm, the top of the line E-Klasse beat the bottom of the line R8.

:-\

Agent63 - 7/15/2008 11:19:29 AMView My AgentSpace

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Don't you realize what you're saying?. An R8 is a purpose built road going super car that is also capable on a track. The E63 is a performance wagon based off a performance sedan that has always beat it's direct competition in straight line acceleration. Mercedes is first and foremost a luxury brand. However their sportiest offerings are not "crap". They build world class engines. Just because you don't like Mercedes doesn't mean you can't respect it.

It is what it is, a fast wagon.

EL34 - 7/15/2008 12:15:50 PM

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Of course the R8 would beat the E-Klasse in the twisties on any day and twice on Sunday.

Threepoint1415926 - 7/15/2008 12:24:31 PM

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"..on a track, any track, the Mercs are crap. At the first bend the R8 would be out of sight, you can write these articles till the cows come home but they are pretty meaningless."

Funny you should mention a stop light race being meaningless then bring up the idea of a station wagon and race track in the same paragraph.

The R8 is still first and foremost a road car. Most wont see the track but I would bet money that lots and lots will see friendly stop light races. In that sense, I think this article is less meaningless than your comment.

VISO - 7/15/2008 2:31:40 PM

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And the RS6 Avant will smoke the E63 AMG wagon and so on.

Audiphile - 7/15/2008 11:02:36 PM

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Good point, VISO. In addition, the RS6 would handle better than the E63 AMG.

JMB1013 - 7/15/2008 12:00:45 AM

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and if said competition took place on a non-straight line?

What's funny is the e63 wagon is slightly quicker to sixty than the sedan (yeah, aerodynamics are cool).

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Threepoint1415926 - 7/15/2008 12:25:49 PM

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I think most of the help comes from the extra weight on the bumm, giving it better launch traction.

motor1 - 7/15/2008 12:13:46 AM

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The E63 is the better one. The E63 is a better car. It seats 5 people, instead of 2, has 4 doors instead of 2, and other drivers don't cut you off and pull the finger at you like they do in the R8 (though not as much as they do in the Porsche 911).
It also has a trunk that you can use and is more conventional, and probably a bit more easier to maintain.

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CLK63BlackSeries - 7/15/2008 2:27:39 AMView My AgentSpace

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I actually love it when people cut me off... gives me a reason to step on it and blow their doors off...

cl0wn - 7/15/2008 4:55:02 AM

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jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzz.... like smiley on herndon

chewy - 7/15/2008 12:25:18 AMView My AgentSpace

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I wouldn't call .1 of a second in the quarter mile being smoked. Just a little over a car length. Not that this isn't unexpected, the E63 has a monster engine. But nothing that the V10 R8 isn't going to fix. The other comparisons are a little more interesting.

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enthusiastx11 - 7/15/2008 12:38:44 AM

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the E63 is such an insane car. love it.

and there is something perversely hot about a rocketship wagon that can smoke a supercar. ; )

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vman1013 - 7/15/2008 12:42:17 AM

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R8's not a supercar.

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Agent63 - 7/15/2008 9:40:48 PMView My AgentSpace

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Yes it is, where have you been all this time?. What? just because it's not a Ferrari or Lamborghini badge it's not a super car? please.

vman1013 - 7/15/2008 12:43:31 AM

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its in a class by itself. beats the cars below it and comes close to the ones above it. but getting beat by a wagon....ouch!

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w209w114 - 7/15/2008 10:48:29 AMView My AgentSpace

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I love the article its hilarious... "At 130 mph, are those her kids laughing in the rear-facing jump seats?" LMAO...

Threepoint1415926 - 7/15/2008 12:27:34 PM

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I can see them now, waving bye-bye at you! Oh the humanity!

theman - 7/15/2008 1:05:34 AM

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I admire cars like the E63..Although I am a coupe lover, it just makes more sense to have a strong 4 door german car..The next gen E63 and M5 are going to be insane..To me the best overall cars in the world..

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VISO - 7/15/2008 2:35:14 PM

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Why, you can have RS6 Avant now.

shabaru - 7/15/2008 1:24:23 AM

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kinda sad but the not exactly due to the fact that you are comparing a 2WD to a AWD... yea and with a 6.3L engine even though it's an estate.... it's still pretty much a handfull

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MercedesBenz00Z - 7/15/2008 1:25:13 AM

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Nissan GT-R smoked R8 easily anyway.

Nissan GT-R will smoke E63 as well

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chewy - 7/15/2008 1:36:00 AMView My AgentSpace

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depends, Car & Driver has gotten worse and worse acceleration figures from the GTR as they test it. The last one was actually slower than either one. (other times have been quicker)

golfer38 - 7/15/2008 11:37:51 AMView My AgentSpace

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That's right...

AlexTx - 7/15/2008 1:41:45 AM

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But put the E63 on the track and it will get nuked by the R8. The S6 already is about 3 seconds faster than the E63 sedan on the track, so you can imagine what the R8 will do to it.
That is just a silly comparaison...
AMG cars (except the new C63) are incredibly fast in a straight line, but when you have to make some turns, their faults come out very quickly.

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xj13 - 7/15/2008 1:47:14 AM

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both great cars, enough said.

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MunichRob - 7/15/2008 5:21:00 AMView My AgentSpace

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I wouldn't say the E63 smoked the R8 but won with little room to spare. Even still I've always felt Audi shouldn't have dropped the RS4's engine in the R8, or at least should've come out with the V-10 first.

However an even crazier race would be the Jeep SRT-8 vs. an Aston Martin V8 Vantage, in which the Aston would truly get smoked!

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Threepoint1415926 - 7/15/2008 12:31:42 PM

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The Jeep SRT-8 is the 60ft king! Super high gear ratios, 4 wheel drive and big engine means it will smoke almost anything from stoplight to stoplight. Italians, Brits and Germans included. Just better hope that race ends at the next stop light before that brick starts to shift into higher gears.

kablaam - 7/15/2008 11:11:13 PM

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Plenty of videos on Youtube show the ML63 beating the SRT8. Granted, the higher gear ratios alloy the SRT8 to get the jump, but after 100mph+ it's no contest.

I would say the Supercharged AMG engine would do better at the strip vs SRT8.

The 60' time is usually a measure of the drivers reaction time.

tattedtwice - 7/15/2008 5:36:02 AM

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Not much of a surprise an amg would win a straightline race; thats all theyre designed to do. Put both of them on a road with even a hint of a curve and the pig would get passed and left by the R8 every time.

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M53R - 7/15/2008 5:58:45 AMView My AgentSpace

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Top of the line E class AMG plus entry level R8 supercar. :P It's not a fair comparison considering the AMG has a huge V8 and a 117 hp advantage.

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kpaxx - 7/15/2008 8:25:37 AM

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Totally different cars that serve different purposes. Both are great in there own right and I would not mind having either or both. 0-60 and 1/4 mile are not the 'end all' to real car enthusiasts.

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Rupert - 7/15/2008 9:16:28 AMView My AgentSpace

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I didn't know the E63 was quite so quick, I thought it was more of a high 4 second car.

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M53R - 7/15/2008 9:34:20 AMView My AgentSpace

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If you place both the Lexus' GS450h and LS600h 100/200 metres infront of the R8 and E63, than yes. Other than that, keep dreaming.

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Agent63 - 7/15/2008 3:06:44 PMView My AgentSpace

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E63 dominates it's class 0-60. =)

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E92_M_Power - 7/15/2008 9:38:34 AM

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R8 still way better looking than E63AMG Wagon.

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answer - 7/15/2008 11:08:09 AMView My AgentSpace

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That's really cool.

But I'd take the R8 100% of the time between the two.

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Neverfollow - 7/15/2008 11:22:42 AM

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What happens when you put the RS6 Avant against the E63 AMG? Has anyone written that article yet?

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stomp17 - 7/15/2008 11:26:27 AM

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Dont matter if the Audi R8 is "super sleek, sexy, fast, car of the year" or whatever - it couldnt hold its own against an E63 AMG hatchback. A hatchback, people! Guess that quattro AWD isn't the best thing ever, huh?

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Htay7500 - 7/15/2008 5:06:43 PM

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so this is a hatchback? um, ok, sure....

diesotto - 7/15/2008 11:59:40 AM

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Two fantastic autos...One terrible comparison! I'm benz biased but I absolutely love the R8. I wonder how many times they get cross-shopped against each other...none!

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MeanVulcan - 7/15/2008 12:17:31 PM

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on a straight line even a TOYOTA Camry can compete with a big enough engine... add a few turns and lets see how the wagon's handling compares to the super sports car, the R8.

Another thing, sure the wagon can hold kids in the back seats, but if it had actually carried the weight of the kids in the comparison, the added weight would have made it a bigger PIG than it already is and we wouldn't even be talking about this.

This is a STUPID comparison.

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Threepoint1415926 - 7/15/2008 12:38:39 PM

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I think everyone is missing the humor of this article. Everyone under the sun knows that the E63 wouldnt hold a candle next to the R8 in the bends. That wasnt the point. The comparison was meant to be humorous by jesting about the family wagon passing the supercar on the way to soccer practice.

diesotto - 7/15/2008 12:39:40 PM

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poor comparison, but the E63 Wagon is far from "pig" status. You're talking like it's a Toyota Sienna. It's going to handle turns better than the majority of autos in the world.

Threepoint1415926 - 7/15/2008 12:59:53 PM

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Yeah, people seem to forget that too. E63 is still no slouch in the bends. Far from a "pig" as people keep referring it. I bet it would give quite a few sports cars a run for their money.

Hantra - 7/15/2008 12:38:05 PMView My AgentSpace

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Kudos. Good post. Informative, and entertaining.

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Caraficionado - 7/15/2008 12:38:06 PM

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Yes, a unfair comparison, but I can't deny how much I'd have liked to have seen the R8's driver's face

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Audiphile - 7/15/2008 10:59:46 PM

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Good point, VISO. In addition, the RS6 handles better than the E63 AMG.

amazinBimmer - 7/15/2008 1:02:45 PM

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R8??

a mercedes beat a vw.

expected.

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chewy - 7/15/2008 5:19:28 PMView My AgentSpace

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And in the same comparison a freaking Toyota Tundra was as quick as a BMW 3 series. Does that prove that Toyota trucks are way better than BMW's?

audirevolution - 7/15/2008 10:15:11 PM

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It will smoke your beloved IS-F as well.

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mpwr - 7/15/2008 1:57:30 PM

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THE STATIONWAGON FROM HELL

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Audiphile - 7/15/2008 10:56:39 PM

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LOL

richard112360 - 7/15/2008 3:42:00 PM

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Heck I think my 4 cylinder Toyota will outrun and out smoke this Audi R8.

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audirevolution - 7/15/2008 9:25:43 PM

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Your Toyota can do 0-60 in less than 4 seconds?
Didn't think so.

Htay7500 - 7/15/2008 5:06:03 PM

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station wagons rock!! but they're both amazing.

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Audiphile - 7/15/2008 11:10:39 PM

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This is an unfair comparison, but it is funny! If you put a big enough engine into a station wagon, it'll outrun anything short of a Bugatti in a straight line! And watching the supercar's facial xpression when he's smoked by a little old lady from Pasadena would be priceless!

Still, if you put the R8 and the E63 AMG on a race track, it would be embarrassing for the Mercedes wagon. AMG-tweaked Benzes are fast and stop well, but they don't corner much better than the standard Mercedes models they are based on.

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kablaam - 7/17/2008 12:12:30 AM

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The E63 is no comparison to the R8 on the track(whos sole purposes was built for the ring), but it is no dog on the bends no matter what all of you want to believe.

Secondly, the R8 will be faster then the E63 at the extremes, far beyond what most drivers would even be able to modulate....meaning, in most races between amateurs, the R8 will have little advantage.

Thirdly, granted @ the 1/4 mile it(E) is about 1 car length ahead, but notice the trap speed, it will only widen.

The cars were built for different purposes, they will obviously never be cross-shopped, so the "put a SRT10 engine in a minivan" argument is moot. Not to mention that both cars are built @ the factory.

jpighetti - 7/16/2008 2:43:01 PM

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When did 0.1 second difference equate to getting "smoked"? Maybe if one car did the 1/4 mile in 0.2 seconds, and the other car did it in 0.1 seconds - twice as fast - it would be significant...

Really? Smoked? Come on...

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amazinBimmer - 7/16/2008 4:14:34 PM

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goes to show you that vw cant build cars..

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huu76 - 7/17/2008 6:28:49 PM

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Bet all the power-to-weight ratios are the same for each pairing.
Some comparison, more weight means you need more power.

2mph is hardly "blowing" someone away.

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DieselRules - 7/18/2008 2:36:06 AM

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sure ... that's why VW/Audi have more engines on Ward's "10-best engines" list than any other manufacturer, ever. Try working from facts next time.

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DieselRules - 7/18/2008 2:33:10 AM

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E63 AMG is a fun toy.
Now, back to reality.
WHERE'S MY CDI WAGON?????????????

You can buy a practical car (wagon) with a crap gas engine, or an E-class sedan with a practical (diesel) engine.

Why can't you get a practical engine in the practical car???
Almost everyone buying a wagon wants a diesel. And the most recent ones in the US are 1987 and selling like they are made of gold.

Come on MB, wake up!

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Eyecarehawaii - 7/21/2008 5:33:49 AM

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Interestingly I just happened to watch a German auto show this past weekend that compared the E63 AMG, RS6 and M6 wagons and from a perfomance standpoint they preferred the RS6. The E63 had a larger cargo capacity though.

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