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Autocar TV reviews the Jaguar XF
Is the XF really a world-beater? Harris decides Read Article



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LexusKindaGuy12LexusKindaGuy12 - 2/17/2008 2:27:50 AM
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im glad he pointed out what lexus owners are saying in the forums: that the side profile of the xf looks exactly like the GS.

i love the way it looks though

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EL34EL34 - 2/17/2008 3:25:27 AM
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If I've said once I've said 12 times that Lexus rip off ideas from Jaguar and Aston Martin.

Com'on, look at old and new Jags & Astons and you will see heritage.


VISOVISO - 2/17/2008 2:20:34 PM
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I agree with you. When I first saw the XF, it reminded me right away of (1) Japaneses styling and (2) Lexus GS. I think this was done for the American geriatric buyes as both Lexus and Jaguar appeal to the Nursing Home set. I mean I see more Lexi and Jags with Handicapped Parking Stickers than any other car. No insult intended to eldery or handicapped people. Just a preference of senior citizens to drive a Lexus that reminds them of their Buicks of yesteryear.


zairnaimzairnaim - 2/17/2008 10:17:39 AM
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goobama08 stop being biased it is not like lexus has never copied any designs in the past. Even though i like lexus I have to admit that. As long as it is just the side profile I'm fine with it but when they copy the whole car like the chinese then it is a totally different story. Personally i hate the headlights on this car but a otherwise looks nice. Good job jaguar.

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AntiFanBoiAntiFanBoi - 2/17/2008 12:18:52 PM
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That's ironic GoObama,

Your candidate also, "Looked hot a month ago, but now i'm bored of it (him) already" especially those stupid 'pulpit inspired' - 'pep rally' speeches with no substance!

Oh Yea, He also 'literally' copied many of Hillary's platform ideas...

The Jaguar XF has a timeless, lasting quality that your candidate can never achieve!

So - GET A LIFE and Go Attend Another Obama PEP RALLY - And Don't Forget Your Pom-Poms!!

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farabira1farabira1 - 2/17/2008 12:31:04 PM
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I don't know what Chris of Autocar is on about. Usually i like his honest and frank observations, but this is totally ridiculous, how the hell does he claim that XF is a copy of Lexus GS. As i have said thousands of times before, the development of the design of XF started several years even before the GS debuted, so how on earth can XF design be a copy. The fact is that, both cars converge in body shape is because of use of similar designing elements and probably similar designing softwares, but the theme of each design, and the details are totally different and distinct. It is just like those incidents when two or more independent researchers discover the same thing while working completely differently and without any association. Think about how both Darwin and another of his friends reached the theory of Evolution by natural selection independently. Actually in terms of evolution, in this case of XF and GS, evolutionary convergence has taken place. But any way, the XF is thousandfold more beautiful than any car in the segment, let alone a second rate Lexus GS. And please stop giving misinformation about the headlamps, I have checked them out in the flesh and it looks absolutely awesome and quite simply very modern.

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farabira1farabira1 - 2/17/2008 12:32:30 PM
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Oh Darwin's friend who came up with a similar paper for natural selection was Alfred Russell Wallace.

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bulldogzbulldogz - 2/17/2008 1:51:23 PM
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Once again this site's posters show their true colors! Jaguar heritage, blahblahblah...they were owned by FORD for chrissakes, the S and X-type were absolute jokes, not to mention you could by a used XJ for pennies on the dollar because of their atrocious resale and reliability. 99% of you have never even been in a Jag let alone OWNED one, yet the moment a British critic says a Jag looks like a Lexus, all hell breaks loose...even though it does! Then farabira1 even defends Jag by saying "..the development of the design of XF started several years even before the GS debuted, so how on earth can XF design be a copy". Buddy, the prior GS design had been around for almost 8 years, you think the new one got thrown together a few months before launch?? That new GS was in the making almost 5 years ago, so it's quite possible for it to have been designed before the "legendary" Jaguar.

Nice car, unstable future and they may end up with horrible resale and an untested service support a few years from now. I think anyone would be crazy to throw almost $60k to them not knowing what's in store. Would've felt better if BMW or MB bought them.

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cdokecdoke - 2/17/2008 1:59:43 PMView My AgentSpace
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"99% of you have never even been in a Jag let alone OWNED one"

Care to test that hypothesis?


ym73ym73 - 2/17/2008 6:40:21 PM
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The XF was copied more from the XK and aston martin than from the GS. THe designer said that the rake of the roof is identical to the XK. Both the XF and the GS were trying to look like coupes, that's why they look similiar in their profile. From the front and the back they look nothing alike and the details in the sheet metal are different. There was no copying here. By the way, I have seen this car in the flesh. It look good from every angle but the front. When you look at it straight from the front, it's just OK. The concept was obviously much better in that regard. Hopefully, Jaguar designers are reading the critiques and will use the concept headlights in the next refresh.


bulldogzbulldogz - 2/19/2008 9:37:08 AM
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I don't have to test anything, these are the same people that trash Japanese cars, saying they'd never own one, so why would they go out of their way to stop by a dealership to test-drive something they have ZERO onterest in buying...when it's much easier to come here and say they did. Not to mention that Jaguars are next to non-existant here because of their lack of appeal in the US nowadays...hence my conclusion.

But you continue to convince yourself that "most" posters here have half the knowledge they talk about.


ThierryHenry14ThierryHenry14 - 2/17/2008 3:11:22 PM
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THIS THINGS REALLY GETTING GREAT REVIEWS... BUT GOING AGAINST A 4 YEAR OLD 5ER, THATS NOT A REALLY BIG ACHIEVEMENT...

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amazinBimmeramazinBimmer - 2/17/2008 11:17:47 PM
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by the time the XF hits the streets, new 5 will be on near term horizon. game over. again.

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