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BMW 1-Series To Hit U.S. Shores Under $30,000!

Agent009 submitted on 9/12/2007 Official Bell & Ross Timestamp: 10:48:27 AM

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The 1-series, as sold in the US, will come only in coupe form, but will have the option of two different six-cylinder engines.

The base 128i model will have 230hp, while the 135i will share a motor with the 335i boasting a conservatively-specified 300hp. Expect 0-60mph to come in 5.1s in the 135i, and 6.1s in the 128i. Aimed at a younger demographic, BMW is mum on projected sales volume, but expects the 1-series to play a “big role” in the U.S.

The most ground-breaking statistic, however, is not the performance, but the price: the base 128i will start under $30,000, with the hotted-up 135i starting in the mid-$30,000s, reports Automotive News.

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even the base model should scream with 230hp...and 300hp...scary
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 11:14:36 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

If BMWs are the claimed "Ultimate Driving Machine"...then is this the ultimate "pocket rocket"?
— Need4Speed (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 11:18:27 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

Good Lord! That is an amazing deal.

Hmmmmm, I think I may have a new favourite.
— Hyundai (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 11:29:45 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

Why would anyone pay that money for that much power (135), while basically sitting in a tin can? No luxury features at all for that price. Compared to other vehicles in that under $40,000 price range, this vehicle is very, very spartan.
— david999 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 12:57:15 PM | | Votes: -12

as a sports car should be
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 4:59:16 PM | | Votes: 4

spartan, modern, clean...beautiful.
no unnecessary gizmos, complexity and weight.

just a fun, fast, compact sports coupe...and all that for $35K!
— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 9:03:04 PM | | Votes: 4

Yes. It carries BMW's past perfection (2002, original M3, etc) in modern form. Amazing!
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 9/13/2007 1:29:31 AM | | Votes: 5

legend in the making!!!!
— chris760 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/14/2007 6:51:00 PM | | Votes: 4

Too much power for the young badge whores to control properly.
— david999 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 11:44:21 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -14

definately not your car then.
— MrGunFun (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 12:03:50 PM | | Votes: 6

agreed, not for you.
stick with the ES350.
— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 12:45:50 PM | | Votes: 0

david rarely speaks to facts.
just his bizarre opinions that he tries to project onto the entire buying public.

thankfully, sales and performance numbers prove him wrong again and again!
— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 9:04:47 PM | | Votes: 1

Enthusiastx11,
I am afraid you are just another victom of the corporate logo, who would blindly buy whatever is put in front of them because of the badge. It's really sad.
— david999 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/13/2007 4:25:09 AM | | Votes: -13

Funny how Mr. David999 tells us that we're badge whores when he's known to be a diehard Lexus fanboy. The same stuff he's saying about us applies to him too.

Example:

David999 said he'd never buy a Mercedes hybrid because Lexus hybrids are superior and more reliable.

That's what I call BADGE WHORING too...
— Bill (View Profile)

Posted on 9/13/2007 7:30:48 AM | | Votes: 5

More hatred born out of sheer envy, Lexus don't have anything to compete with thsi do they david999?
— Kinger (View Profile)

Posted on 9/13/2007 7:50:06 AM | | Votes: 4

Bill,
I said I would not want to buy a first generation hybrid Mercedes.
I like many types of cars including Lexus. Just because I have the opinion that this 1-series BMW is overpriced for what you get, ( and based on the posts on BMW themed web sites that are critical of this car I am right), you think I am being a meanie.
Sorry to hurt your feelings.
— david999 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/13/2007 10:13:59 AM | | Votes: -2

dear david:

you seem to know me so well. in fact, i'm an extremely discriminating consumer who knows exactly what he wants. in this case, cars that take a clean, modern design point of view and provide a wonderful driving experience.

now please explain your loyalty to lexus. how is that any different in principle?
— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/13/2007 11:56:28 AM | | Votes: 3

actually, I agree. I had a 745i my Senior year of highschool and I repeatidly and stupidly hit 155, and raced countless mustangs, and drifted countless corners, which inevitably lead to me hidding a curb at 40 mph and bending my chassis, and this was a 2+ ton car that did 60 in 6 seconds. imagine what kids will be getting themselves into with a much lighter car that does 60 in low fives, high fours. i would be one worried parent if my kid drove one of these...
— CLK63BlackSeries (View Profile)

Posted on 9/14/2007 1:09:29 PM | | Votes: 2

nonetheless... I want my brother to have this beast as his first car!!! lol
— CLK63BlackSeries (View Profile)

Posted on 9/14/2007 1:10:38 PM | | Votes: -2

get him a used taurus. teens + nice cars is possibly a worse combination than toothpaste + orange juice
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/14/2007 3:44:15 PM | | Votes: 2

You obviously haven't tried the new Crest citrus toothpaste.
— henbmw (View Profile)

Posted on 9/15/2007 4:23:31 PM | | Votes: 1

A parent that'll fork out around $30,000 for a teenager's first car? Jesus! I want that parent please!

Seriously, how often does one come across a teenager with a spanking new BMW, even if it has a statistically low price? At my schools parking lot? Hell no, there are ZERO. There are those few spoiled rotten kids, but I must emphasize that they are the spoiled rotten, on the hella-good-side-of-town kiddies. Then again, one come across those who borrow their parents' cars to brag about how they have luxury cars to drive to school infront of their peers' faces (my personal experience: big fat meanie friend of mine.. calls my 1995 BMW a piece of crap.. psh). But still, the guy is only able to drive it two times a month, and on the condition if its raining (hello california environment of nearly summer-all-year-long). Therefore, you won't see too many kids driving these things. Yes, I give you permission to sigh in relief.
— bmwgrl (View Profile)

Posted on 9/18/2007 1:45:52 AM | | Votes: 1

go away.
— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 12:46:41 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

yeah but the maxima handles like pooh!
— kpaxx (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 1:51:06 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

i want one of these shoe boxes.
i think i'll actually buy one for one of my younger siblings!
— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 9:06:00 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

Oh yeah this car is in the same class as the maxima. same size, rear wheel drive, inline 6, perfect 50/50 weight distribution....sigh.......... How the hell does the maxima compare to this?? if the 335i is already below 6 seconds to 60 then this will surely be much faster, and the 128i will also be faster, and oh yeah, heres some math to help you for school tomorrow RWD+lighter+50/50 weight distribution=faster acceleration+better, more stable handling. Oh don't forget your lunch pail and don't miss the bus to school tomorrow. Oh I happen to like the IS lexus by the way, so don't even call me a fan boy because I love BMW's, because although they are one of my favorite cars I don't put them above everything else. What else will compete with this car? anyone? and don't say STI or EVO because they are totaly in another class, souped up ecnocars. this car will have some luxury, and I'm not dissin the EVO or STI because they are awesome cars.
— 85bmw745i (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 10:49:29 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 5

The 135i really is in a class of its own. In making it coupe-only for the US, BMW has avoided competing with the A3 and its own Mini Cooper, but perhaps this will start a trend for future A3 coupes and B-Class coupes, both of which are rumored.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 9/13/2007 1:31:28 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

I saw one on the road
it had black tape over the badges...looked good.

Then the police came and stopped me taking photos of it (it was right outside a police station).
— Rupert (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 11:52:56 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

That's very odd.
— LuxuryFan (View Profile)

Posted on 9/13/2007 5:30:12 PM | | Votes: 1

now thers no reason for stupid Amercians to buy Jap. Honda an Toyouta ar dead
— BenzW124 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 12:06:08 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -14

please houston.

you and w124 sound the same. just different sides of the fence.
— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 12:52:13 PM | | Votes: 4

I wouldn't be surprised if they were the same person.
— Hyundai (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 1:32:14 PM | | Votes: 4

Cool car. Great price. And that 300hp is nuts!!
— answer (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 12:16:48 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

It still doesnt seem like that good of a deal. Why? Because of the endless BMW options list. By the time you get the normal luxury car features added on (xenon lights, htd seats, power, etc.) The 128 should be at the mid 30's. That's a base price of the outgoing G35 coupe.

It's going to be an awesome car, but for it is, it's still an expensive one.

It should fit in with badge concious late 20-yr olds that are single and are getting started in the corporate world....and dont be suprised to see some high school/college girls saying "oh its so cute! Daddy I want that!"

Go ahead and deboost.
— M35MT (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 12:44:03 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 6

i think you're missing the point.
this car is not about luxury. it's about great performance and style.

personally, i would trade xenon, heated seats and power everything for fun-to-drive and style. my priorities. i can handle manual seat adjustments the one time a week i actually move the seat.

luxury gizmos are apparently your priority.
— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 12:49:24 PM | | Votes: 1

sure, they'd go for a G37...unless they want a faster, better handling, better looking car for the same price!
— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 12:58:02 PM | | Votes: -2

enthusiastx:

Not my prority. My priority is performance. Which is why I drive a car that costs 6,000 less than the 128 will start at, handles better (I guarantee it, dont give me your 'magic feel' speech, do some research on my car and honestly assess whether you think this car can beat the numbers)

Ever been to a dealer lot? Check out a 3 series. It's not the base model. It has the basic premium/sunroof package which ups the price at least 3,000. Are you going to special order a base model?

— M35MT (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 1:10:21 PM | | Votes: 1

m35mt, what for 6k less will outhandle this? or for that matter, what for 15k MORE will outhandle this?

— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 5:04:06 PM | | Votes: 2

M35:

"My priority is performance. Which is why I drive a car that costs 6,000 less than the 128 will start at"

sounds like your priority is price. mine is performance. not price. not luxury. what performs best is what i buy.
— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 9:09:23 PM | | Votes: 0

Gotta agree with M35MT on this one. Nice car, but good lord, starting at $30k for the "base" model? And how many people stay at the base price when getting a Bimmer. I don't care if you are one of the 3-5% of enthusiasts who are going to buy this car with no options. Adding a decent stereo and you'll tack on about a grand, and that's if you can get it without getting the "XYZ" package...another $3500. If they had done about mid-20's 128 and 30-ish 135, they'd have a smash. This will probably sell once BMW offers one of their great lease deals, but not much until then...and I love BMW's. Hell, I can get a brand new S2000 for less than this and it will probably give up very little if anything, with respect to performance.
— cktoo (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 11:33:28 PM | | Votes: 1

None of you (except enthusiastx) are seeing the point of this car. Many buyers of this car just want the performance, which is going to be fantastic, regardless of price. It is the spiritual successor of the original E30 M3. The 135i will provide perfect handling, superb straight-line speed and a dose of practicality and everyday-friendliness that just makes it very appealing. So what if the G37 is bigger and more luxurious? The 135i will be the more capable vehicle, and ultimately, more satisfying. I'm really liking the new Infinitis, but you shouldn't call yourself a car enthusiast if you can't see that.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 9/13/2007 1:35:38 AM | | Votes: 5

Looks like my X5 4.8is is about to get a lil' brother...
— DaHarder (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 12:46:27 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

will be a huge hit!

it will be quick as hell and i'm certain the size/weight will give it remarkable reflexes.

what a great everyday performance car.
— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 12:51:12 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

approximatelt 1500kg (2600lbs)
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 5:10:33 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

1995e34:

1500kgs is not 2600 lbs. it is about 3306 lbs.
— 07mcs (View Profile)

Posted on 9/13/2007 5:22:45 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

oops, i was thinking of miles vs kilometers
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/13/2007 11:08:05 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Obviously a few of these people prefer lux over performance... a "tin can" with high horsepower sounds fantastic to me. Forget the bells and whisles, the one amenity I'll take is leather. Other then that, forget your nav system, idrive, champaign coolers and other b.s. I'll take a 6-speed, rear wheel drive, and have a ball everyday while driving to work or otherwise. I'll take mine in black please.
— FerrarisR4me (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 2:11:46 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

Poor man's BMW
— ACS_CarbonBlack (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 3:31:50 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -3

or REAL man's bmw
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 5:12:19 PM | | Votes: -4

and why should those who can only afford a $30,000 car have to suffer!

a BMW for the masses. hooray!
— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 9:12:04 PM | | Votes: -1

I have a feeling that many people who can afford a 335i or even M3 would take this car over it. Don't judge a book by its cover- I would bet that many people think I can't afford a "real" luxury car when I'm seen driving the A3. They have no idea what they're missing.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 9/13/2007 1:37:57 AM | | Votes: 1

Good Bye 3 Series Sales! It was good while it lasted.

I will def consider the 135 when it hits showrooms. It will spare my wallet the extra 20K to get a 335. I wonder what the insurance premiums when every middle/upper class teenager gets their hands behind the wheel of the 135.
— no1listensanyway (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 3:45:05 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2

3-series: sedan, wagon, coupe, convertible
1-series: coupe only (and maybe a convertible)

3-series: space for 4 full-size people inside, larger trunk, more substantial exterior
1-series: backseat for occassional use only. not really for adult. small trunk. modest exterior dimensions.

net: these cars reach distinct buyers. and both will sell incredibly well!
— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 9:16:00 PM | | Votes: 0

Enthusiust, you are forgetting about the people who really cannot afford a 3 series in the first place. The people have to move back in their parents place becaause they are not able to make the payments on them. With Bimmers there are a lot of people like that. Thos are the ones who are going to cash in on the 135.
— no1listensanyway (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 10:37:27 PM | | Votes: 0

aren't those people buying used anyhow?
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/13/2007 11:11:01 AM | | Votes: 1

no worries. there are tens of thousands of people who will take the responsibility of driving a 1-series off your hands!
— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 9:18:01 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

"No Ricers in their right mind would be caught in such an ugly thing."

that's right, cause theyre always noted for their tastefully appointed autos.
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 5:24:28 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

I don't think BMW is going for "ricers" with this car.But, I will bet you that it will do great business in the Asian markets.

No need for airplane wings on the rear and side of this car and all the other rediculous things drifters,ricers,etc do to their autos. You would think they have been watching transformer cartoons too long.
— ICON (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 7:09:26 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

ridiculous
— ICON (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 8:41:40 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

IMHO, it is fugly. The whole thing has a bad proportion. The rear is extremely hideous. The roofline is very jacked up to the point of no returns!

*bmw shills can de-boost me as much as you like, it will only prove my point.
— jon21 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 4:38:51 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

these proportions are needed to give interior room, as rwd eats alot of space. look at the 2002, it had a high roof as well. most companies are doing this with their smaller cars these days.
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 5:15:51 PM | | Votes: 1

Wow it would be nice if the drop top comes in near 30K.
— Larry (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 5:04:07 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

I was excited about it, until I read how unreliable the car is.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=223617

I would wait on second year production, before declaring a winner here.
— charon (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 5:19:36 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

A lot of "enthusiasts" here don't care about reliability.
— david999 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 5:59:32 PM | | Votes: -2

how can you know anything about reliability as the car is not in production?

and BMW scored solidly above average in reliability according to JD Powers. why would this one be different?
— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 9:20:02 PM | | Votes: -2

If you treat your car well, it will do the same. I know from experience.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 9/13/2007 1:39:49 AM | | Votes: 3

Enthusiastx11,
If you bothered to read the post that Charon gives a link to, you will read about the terrible quality problems that owners of this car have.
— david999 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/13/2007 4:19:45 AM | | Votes: -1

The 1 series and the new 3 series have done very well over here in reliability surveys.
— Kinger (View Profile)

Posted on 9/13/2007 8:06:14 AM | | Votes: 2

a few people posting on a blog does not make for broad based quality problems. i could find this kind of info on almost any car (and, yes, even a toylex)
— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/13/2007 12:08:22 PM | | Votes: 2

I liked the hatch more.
— Htay7500 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 6:40:52 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

The 1 series has been in Europe for quite a while if I am not mistaken.
— 85bmw745i (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2007 10:54:41 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

Not a good value at all. I fail to see the excitement. Way too close to the 3-series in price, and not diferent enough (aka lightweight) to be as "pure" as you guys seem to think it is.
— t_bone (View Profile)

Posted on 9/13/2007 9:44:22 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2

The E46 M3 was no lightweight, but it was still an amazing driver. This will be the same.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 9/13/2007 10:16:59 AM | | Votes: 3

quite far apart in price.
a 3-series coupe well-equipped is over $50K, the convertible at around $60K.
— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/13/2007 12:10:27 PM | | Votes: 2

also not really about price.

different buyer for the 1-series. one who is even more focused on performance and has little need to carry more than one other passenger.
— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/13/2007 12:12:43 PM | | Votes: 3

You guys still don't understand the difference between a 3,200 lb coupe (yes, that's right, so the 2002 legacy doesn't apply here) and a true sports car. Sometimes I think this site should be called "SedanSpies.com"

All I'm saying is that if you need the rear seats the 3 series is a much better option. Need one for a 1-series price? Get a certified used one a couple years old. If it is for the driving experience, nothing matches a 2-seat sports car, despite what the marketers want you to think. Heck they want you to think SUV's are "high performance" too.
— t_bone (View Profile)

Posted on 9/13/2007 11:41:46 PM | | Votes: 1

528i MSRP=$44,300
328i MSRP=$32,400
128i MSRP=$20,500(my guess based on the difference between 528 &328)
535i MSRP=$49,400
335i MSRP=$38,900
135i MSRP=$28,400(my guess based on the difference between 535 &335)
Difference between 535i and 528i = $5100
Difference between 335i and 328i = $6500
Projected difference between 135i and 128i = $7900
$7900-$6500=$6500-$5100=$1400

So my take is that the 128i will start at $20,500, with the 135i starting at $28,400.

Just my guess.
— AdmiralT20 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/13/2007 3:25:02 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Doesn't the article state that the 135i will start in the mid 30s? If true, I'm sure that the take home price will be in the mid 40s. Go to any BMW lot and you will not find a car that is within $7k of the MSRP. Frankly, I don't see what's so great about the price.

The exterior of the car is not great looking. Yea, the performance should be superb but overall the car is not worth 45k. BMW didn't put a lot into this design.
— Jay7 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/13/2007 4:13:30 PM | | Votes: 1

Yes the article did, but if you read the article you will also understand that it is pure speculation- everything is speculative till the manufacturer makes an official announcement.
The reason for the point you made is that the dealers usually add options to the car. But if you want the bare minimum, you will be able to get it at the MSRP if not considerably less.
My guess is that a well optioned 135 will put you in the high $30k to low $40k.
— AdmiralT20 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/13/2007 4:44:47 PM | | Votes: 0

I'm not hating on BMW, but 30K is a lot for this little car, it will have a good engine, but that price is way too high, considering what else can be had for that type of money. Don't forget that the price will probably be considerably higher once you start negotiating with the salesman.
— Blakura (View Profile)

Posted on 9/14/2007 2:24:57 PM | | Votes: 1

Look at the euro prices, the 135i is only 4k cheaper then the 335i
— Heyhuub (View Profile)

Posted on 9/15/2007 9:06:29 AM | | Votes: 2

no rwd option. otherwise i think many people would
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/13/2007 7:13:22 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

If I wanted an ugly, low build quality, noisy, did I say ugly AWD car to impress 15 year old boys... well, high fives brother. Unfortunately, I like nice build quality, driver feedback, reliability, FREE maintenance. I'll take the 135. The "touch of class" is certainly a nice bonus though, yes.
— indoctrin8ed (View Profile)

Posted on 9/14/2007 4:47:14 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

I was waiting for STI/Evo to come up... I love my 06 STI, but would be willing to trade a little performance for comfort (getting old I guess). The new 135i is the only new car on deck for '08 to make me bat an eyelash. Make it an AWD 135ix first, though :)
— 06STI (View Profile)

Posted on 9/13/2007 9:03:36 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

UGLY UGLY UGLY. probably a great driver's car with a stick tho.
— E34M5 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/13/2007 9:49:55 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

Wake me up when either of these cars can run with a WRX or STi.
— huu76 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/14/2007 1:54:37 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

WRX or STI? Those are the same.

Um, anyway, 300 hp in a 135 would probably outlap a WRX. If a 335i outlaps a RS4, a 135 would SPANK a wrx, and nevermind that crap interior in the WRX. Does the STI even come with a radio?
— indoctrin8ed (View Profile)

Posted on 9/14/2007 4:35:14 AM | | Votes: 3

335i outlapping an RS4?

Nurburgring -
RS4 - 8:09
M5 - 8:13
WRX STI - 8:24
335i - 8:26

Hockenheim
RS4 - 1:15.4
M5 - 1:16.5
WRX STI - 1:17.9
335i - 1:17.8
335i -
— Heyhuub (View Profile)

Posted on 9/15/2007 9:09:35 AM | | Votes: 1

As far as people talking about option prices go, there are a great deal of 3-series out on our BMW dealer lot with only the Premium Package. I see a lot of base level 3-series drivers, and I'm sure we will see a lot of base 1-series.

BMW knows that this is a growing segment, and I'm sure they've researched this segment well.

Guys, people who will shop this car aren't shopping for a WRX. It's an entirely different focus, from a luxury brand.
— lewissalem (View Profile)

Posted on 9/14/2007 10:23:57 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

WOW! Here's my 2 cents about the upcoming 1 series. BMW is trying to kill three birds with one stone:

1. Produce a small car with amazing aerodynamics.
2. Boost the image of the 3-series, buyers won’t be
seeing them as entry level models anymore.
3. Establish a new benchmark and attract a different
crowd to the brand.

Number 3 is probably the most important to BMW. I'm sure we are looking at the next entry level luxury vehicle.
— BM3W (View Profile)

Posted on 9/14/2007 11:54:12 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

indoctrin8
WRX 0-60 5.7sec
STi 0-60 4.8sec
Same care, different engine, much like how the 128i and 135i are the same car with different engines.

AWD will outhandle any brick of a BMW. Take off the propellor and you'd never know it wasn't an economy car.

Anyway, the 1 will cannibalize the 3. Why should a poser spend an extra 5-6K when he can get the same propellor on a cheaper car?
— huu76 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/14/2007 1:58:17 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

can't he just get the propellor and wear it on a chain around his neck?
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/14/2007 3:51:02 PM | | Votes: 1

BMW3W,
Look up the specs for an Acura CSX, they've already established the entry level lux benchmark. BMW is just following as usual.

What next, an 8-speed transmission? Oh wait, they already have that planned for the next 7.
— huu76 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/14/2007 2:00:15 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

the bmw is rwd...no comparison
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/14/2007 3:53:01 PM | | Votes: 1

Good heavens the most in common the 135 has with the CSX is they both have tires and with options are priced in the mid thirties. The CSX is dismal, tarted up Civic. What it lacks in performance, it lets you down with generic looks. A benchmark? Where? it's only offered in Canada.

135 is smaller and probably priced with option about the same range, Oh and by the way it has just about twice the horsepower.
— theoptimisticpessimist (View Profile)

Posted on 9/14/2007 6:54:40 PM | | Votes: 1

I think the 1 series will definitely be a hit but it would have been incredible if the price was a little lower ( 26k for the 28 before options and 30 for the 35 before options).... Though I'm a huge Bimmer fan I would have to admit a new g35 coupe is a much better buy then a 135 , even with the 300 horses. But overall , it still will be a huge success.
— sixmilie (View Profile)

Posted on 9/14/2007 2:38:17 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

The g35 will be a pig compared to the 135. The 135 will have the m sport suspension/body work. This will be a true enthusiast's car for reasonable money. When you consider resalevalue/maintance package the 135 will be a steal. However both are great cars.
— seevemonka (View Profile)

Posted on 9/14/2007 8:35:00 PM | | Votes: 0

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

1 - SERIES???

Oh great, more poor people buying BMW and Mercedes!

That's it, after I'm done with my 2007 SL55 it's only Bentley and higher for me. I don't want to pull up to common peasants along side me on the road driving the same make as me.

Ugh.
— RICHNEWYORKER (View Profile)

Posted on 9/14/2007 10:34:17 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2

Great act. Nobody is buying what you're selling.
— Hyundai (View Profile)

Posted on 9/15/2007 1:12:15 AM | | Votes: 3

What I meant to say is, "Hello David989!"
— Hyundai (View Profile)

Posted on 9/15/2007 1:12:48 AM | | Votes: 0

Act?

You obviously have no clue who I am. It's really none of your business as I don't even associate with KIA drivers. K?
— RICHNEWYORKER (View Profile)

Posted on 9/15/2007 10:01:24 PM | | Votes: 0

OK, maybe you are (INSERT OTHER RANDOM TROLL MULTIPLE ACCOUNT POSTER HERE), instead?
— Hyundai (View Profile)

Posted on 9/15/2007 10:55:49 PM | | Votes: 1

Also, that car looks repulsive.
— RICHNEWYORKER (View Profile)

Posted on 9/14/2007 10:35:26 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

Repulsive is a little too harsh, but I do not find it to attractive anyway...
— rg12345 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/15/2007 7:12:54 PM | | Votes: 1

Mid 30K for the 1 series is way, way too expensive. If BMW wants the new 1 series to be successful, not a repeated failure like their last 318Ti debut a few years back, the 135i has to start below the $30 thousand mark.
— investor27 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/17/2007 1:30:30 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

how much do you think that turbo-6 engine costs alone?
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/18/2007 11:07:35 AM | | Votes: 1

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