BMW 335i Coupe & Cabriolet Get M3’s 7-Speed Double-Clutch Gearbox

Unfortunately this is Europe only -- BMW is not doing this for the U.S., at least not for the time being.

— JRobUSC (View Profile)

Posted on 9/29/2008 2:07:04 PM | | Votes: 2   

That's not a photo of the DKG. The DKG does not have paddles that push forward, they only pull backwards.

— Agent004 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/29/2008 5:06:09 PM | | Votes: 2   

It is the correct photo. 335i is not getting the M3 shift paddles. Its getting the same paddles as the step tranny.

— rumnyc (View Profile)

Posted on 9/29/2008 6:09:38 PM | | Votes: 2   

"BMW is not doing this for the U.S., at least not for the time being."

That doesn't make any sense, because the M3 already has it.

However, it's like what Audi is doing--Europe is getting the option of a seven-speed DSG in the Q5 and S5, but we aren't... yet. That transmission should be making its US debut in the new S4.

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 9/30/2008 4:38:21 PM | | Votes: 1   

+1

— gooch (View Profile)

Posted on 9/29/2008 1:37:42 PM | | Votes: 5   

+2

— Htay7500 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/29/2008 2:51:47 PM | | Votes: 5   

+4

— 528i (View Profile)

Posted on 9/29/2008 5:08:04 PM | | Votes: 5   

But you have to admit that this isn't a bad compromise.

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 9/30/2008 4:38:49 PM | | Votes: 2   

Great! But can you drink a soda, shave, put on your make-up, and text at the same while driving a stick.

LOL!

— Brembo (View Profile)

Posted on 9/30/2008 5:10:49 PM | | Votes: 1   

+5 on the "sticking to manual"

S4 your only saying that b/c ur wife wont allow you to have a manual

— KZ258 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/1/2008 1:19:12 PM | | Votes: 1   

The S4 is faster.

BTW what makes you say that?

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 9/30/2008 4:39:16 PM | | Votes: 1   

'Furthermore, the new 3.0 TFSI achieves exemplary fuel efficiency. On average, the sedan uses 9.7 liters of fuel per 100 km (24.25 US mpg), and the Avant 9.9 liters per 100 km (23.76 US mpg) – an improvement of 3.4 liters (26 percent) compared with its predecessor.' -Audi press release.
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"Furthermore, the double-clutch gearbox helps drop consumption in both the 335i Coupe and Cabriolet by up to 5% compared to the equivalent models with 6-speed manual or automatic transmissions. In particular, the 335i Coupe & Convertible models with the DKG achieve an average fuel consumption in the combined EU test cycle of 8.8lt /100km (26.7 mpg) and 9.1lt/100km (25.9 mpg) respectively."- BMW press release

Which one is faster hasn't been determined yet, they have not been in a comparison test together.

If you look at the S5 and 335 coupe, they are almost identical, with the 3 series being more fun to drive and just as fast around a track.

What I find impressive is how BMW constantly uses less Hp and achieves the same performance as more powerful audis.

I think the latest M3 was a statement by BMW that its not going overboard with the hp war like Audi and merc. They made the new M3 have the same hp as the old rs4 and used a smaller engine, less torque, and the new M3 is still a couple seconds a lap faster then the rs4 around a track(top gear video). When BMW could have easily put a much more powerful engine in the car to up the bar. but yet they raised the bar with less hp.

— carcar3334 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/30/2008 5:25:05 PM | | Votes: 1   

"If you look at the S5 and 335 coupe, they are almost identical, with the 3 series being more fun to drive and just as fast around a track."

The S4 is completely different from the S5. One has a 4.2L 354hp V8, and one has a 333hp 3.0L supercharged V6. You can't go by S5 tests to judge the S4.

"I think the latest M3 was a statement by BMW that its not going overboard with the hp war like Audi and merc. They made the new M3 have the same hp as the old rs4 and used a smaller engine, less torque, and the new M3 is still a couple seconds a lap faster then the rs4 around a track(top gear video). When BMW could have easily put a much more powerful engine in the car to up the bar. but yet they raised the bar with less hp."

I'm sure you were EXACTLY the kind of person who was bashing Audi when the new S4 came out. It has 333hp as opposed to 344 with the old one. It's significantly quicker but gets much better gas mileage. They also didn't go overboard with the S3/TT, which both use 270hp 2.0T four-bangers.

So, you fail.

Not to mention... you act as if BMW actually made the M3 less powerful, like Audi did with the S4. BMW still stuck in a V8 instead of a six and the horsepower went up by nearly 90. I adore the E90/E92 M3 but what you're saying isn't true. The new RS4, on the other hand, will probably not be any more powerful than the B7.

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 10/1/2008 12:32:44 AM | | Votes: 1   

Great that the 335 DCT gets better MPG, though. I would love a 335xi DCT.

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 10/1/2008 12:35:24 AM | | Votes: 1   

what about the 580hp rs6, or the fact the new rs4/5 is rumored to have 450-470(thats almost in m5 territory thats crazy)?

"The S4 is completely different from the S5. One has a 4.2L 354hp V8, and one has a 333hp 3.0L supercharged V6. You can't go by S5 tests to judge the S4."

yeah but i doubt audi is going to make the one faster then the other...if anything they would have made the s5 the faster car.

"I'm sure you were EXACTLY the kind of person who was bashing Audi when the new S4 came out. It has 333hp as opposed to 344 with the old one. It's significantly quicker but gets much better gas mileage. They also didn't go overboard with the S3/TT, which both use 270hp 2.0T four-bangers."

the s3/tt are vw golf based vehicles...theres not to much they could do there. Yes the new S4 is more efficient then the old one, but when you compare it to the competition the 335, the s4 is less efficient.

"Not to mention... you act as if BMW actually made the M3 less powerful, like Audi did with the S4. BMW still stuck in a V8 instead of a six and the horsepower went up by nearly 90. I adore the E90/E92 M3 but what you're saying isn't true. The new RS4, on the other hand, will probably not be any more powerful than the B7."

BMW had to use a V8 if they didn't want to use forced induction...the merc has a 6.2 liter! BMW went about it in a smarter and more efficient way though.

— carcar3334 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/1/2008 9:27:17 AM | | Votes: 1   

I hear you gooch, I was lucky to test drive a manual M3 sedan and the clutch and shifter feel so nice, Id think I would miss that connection to the car too.

— Jaybrn (View Profile)

Posted on 9/30/2008 11:22:00 AM | | Votes: 1