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BMW Releases The GINA Light Visonary Modeling Concept
The key to affecting the development of tomorrow’s mobility lies in our readiness to challenge what is established and in the ability to present new options. In order to meet these objectives, BMW Group Design taps into the potential of the GINA principle (Geometry and Functions In “N” Adaptions) which promotes innovative thinking by allowing maximum freedom of crea-tivity. GINA produces dramatically different solutions that affect the design and functionality of future cars. The GINA Light Visionary Model is an optical expression of selective, future-oriented concepts which provide an example  of the manner and extent of this transformation.

BMW Group Design is not just interested in answering the question of how
the car of the future will look but primarily wishes to explore the creative freedom
it has to offer. Both of these aspects are affected by the requirements that
future cars are expected to meet. All ideas that the GINA Light Visionary Model presents are therefore derived from the needs and demands of customers concerning the aesthetic and functional characteristics of their car and their desire to express individuality and lifestyle. The GINA Light Visionary Model has an almost seamless outer skin, a flexible textile cover that stretches across  a moveable substructure. Individual functions are only revealed if and when
they are needed. With this model, BMW Group Design initiates a fundamental discourse about the characteristics that will affect the development of cars  in future. It is therefore fundamentally different from concept cars, which reflect what is expected of them by implementing as many elements as possible  in a future production model. In contrast, the GINA Light Visionary Model is  a vision of future cars and serves as an object of research.


The seamless car body of the GINA Light Visionary Model.

Putting its visions of tomorrow’s car into practice, BMW Group Design has developed a two-seater roadster with the unique dynamic proportions that are typical of its brand. The GINA Light Visionary Model takes the sculptural design that has already been established by a number of production cars to a new, unparalleled conclusion. The car’s front and sides, including the doors, create one single uninterrupted, seamless whole that converges to form an optical  as well as a structural unit. 

In order to create this appearance, it was necessary to move beyond all previous conceptions of car body configuration, design and materials. Therefore, the GINA Light Visionary Model has dispensed with the usual body elements found on production vehicles such as front apron, bonnet, side panels, doors, wheel arches, roof, trunk lid and rear deck. Instead, a new structure with a minimum amount of components has taken their place. A special, highly durable and extremely expansion-resistant fabric material stretches across a metal structure. This new material offers designers a significantly higher level of freedom  of design and functionality.
The body consists of only four elements.

The largest component extends from the front of the vehicle to the edge of the windscreen and down the sides to the rear edge of the doors. The large side panels start at the front where the rocker panels emerge and run across the rear wheel arches into the rear. The fourth component is the central rear deck element.  An innovation breaks new ground: car with a flexible outer skin.

The innovation of a flexible outer skin breaks new ground in automotive engineering. This revolutionary solution opens up new design, production and functionality potential. It has a major impact on the interaction between  driver and car and enhances it by offering a variety of entirely new options. Some elements of the substructure are moveable. The driver can move them by means of electro and electro-hydraulic controls. This will also change the shape of the outer skin, which can thus be adapted to suit the current situation, the driver’s requirements and can also enhance the car’s functional range.

The most striking example of this is the headlight design. In normal position, when the headlights are not active, i.e. when there is no necessity to illuminate the road, they are hidden under the special fabric cover. As soon as the driver turns on the lights, the contour of the front end changes. Activated by the  metal structure that lies beneath it, the previously closed fabric cover opens to the right and left of the BMW kidney grille and reveals the BMW double head-lights. The rear and the rocker panels of the GINA Visionary Model can also adapt both the shape and function to the driving situation in hand. Both can change the shape of their outer skin to meet the driver’s requirement for particularly dynamic motoring. This concept also takes into account a potential interaction with aerodynamic requirements. The design of the rear element allows for automatic lifting of the rear spoiler when a certain speed is reached, thus creating extra downforce on the rear axle at higher speeds. Due to the  fact that the entire rear end, including the spoiler, is covered by a single sheet  of material that reaches as far as the rear compartment of the interior, the homogeneous shape of the car’s rear will not be affected by changes to the spoiler position. The mechanical system that moves the elements remains concealed.

The turn indicators and the taillights function without changes to the shape  of the outer skin. Their position, however, is only revealed upon activation. The emitted light shines through the translucent fabric cover, which is permeable  to light but not transparent. 

The rocker panels demonstrate the formal versatility of the GINA Light Visionary Model with an equally impressive performance. The air duct can be optimised  if required. A corresponding movement of the metal structure results in an adjustment of the rocker panel contour to allow for better airflow. At the same time, an additional protruding rocker panel line emerges. The aerodynamic optimization and the length of the line can be infinitely adapted to the driving situation at hand.

Special fabric cover ensures accurate reproduction of material folds.

The fact that the body surface is designed by means of a flexible fabric cover
that stretches across a metal substructure means that the materials used must
meet exacting requirements. Industrially produced hybrid fabric made from
a stabilizing mesh netting support and an outer layer that is both water-repellent and resistant to high and low temperatures is suitable for this application. Another essential material  property is a maximum level of dimensional stability. 

It must remain dimensionally stable irrespective of the temperature and air humidity it is exposed to even after severe and constant expansion. The dimen-sional stability helps retain the cover’s surface tension for a long period of time. The movement of individual body elements creates accurately reproducible  folds in the material. In its choice of material BMW Group Design was inspired  by exterior and interior architecture. The expertise of seat pattern designers working for BMW Group Interior Design was successfully applied in order to cut the fabric webbing to size with maximum precision, determine the strategic position of attachment points and stretch the material. As a result, the surfaces are remarkably well balanced and due to the steady tension that is retained between any two clearly defined points, the lines are extremely accurate.

The special fabric is supported by a metal wire structure. At specific points,
the high-strength metal is enhanced by carbon struts with a higher flexibility. They are used predominantly for round, moving contours with a particularly narrow radius.
The use of large fabric areas and the possibility of changing the surface contours by moving individual parts of the metal mesh that lies beneath it create a new relationship between form and function. If additional cooling air is required, the BMW kidney grille at the front of the vehicle can be opened. Because the overall surface of the special fabric covering remains unchanged, the contraction at the front of the vehicle, which is necessary for functional reasons, has to be compensated for by extra tension in other areas. The result is an optically attractive interaction between various body parts that introduces a new dimen-sion to sculptural design. The widening of the kidney grille openings is activated by a movement of the metal mesh in the front area of the side panels. This creates more tension, which becomes visible by the emergence of an additional character line. The development of this new contour tenses the front of the vehicle: the kidney grille opens up.

Innovative body structure introduces new functional dimensions.

The high-precision fit of the material to the metal mesh also allows surface changes without slackening the tension. In this case, opening of the surface  by moving the respective steel mesh struts creates precisely defined folds in  the material. The GINA Light Visionary Model uses this option to display  a function that corresponds to the opening of the hood in conventional vehicles. The material opens at the centre of the engine cover and can be folded to  the far right and left along an opening line that is approximately 0.5 meters long, to allow the driver or mechanic access to the service points in the engine.

The filler caps of the engine oil, cooling and wiper water tanks are now open  for servicing. Opening and closing is similar to the mechanism on a doctor’s traditional medical bag, where clip-lock fasteners are held together in the middle by a rail.  The effect of the accurate surface material draping is even more impressive when the doors are opened. They swing both outwards and upwards. The  high number of attachment points for the fabric cover positioned at the front of the car as well as at rear door edges creates a clearly defined and perfectly reproducible bulk of material. The draping is confined to the area between the front door edge and the side panel. Once the doors are closed, the folds in material disappear completely, leaving a perfectly smooth, stretched material surface.

The interior: discourse between driver and vehicle.

In the interior, variability, form and function are united in an inseparable connec-tion. Whenever selected functions are accessed, the driver also changes the appearance of individual car elements. Again, the car’s variability is adapted to suit the driver’s needs. This creates a close interaction between driver and  car in various different situations.

When the car is parked, the steering wheel and the round instruments –  rev counter, speedometer and fuel gauge, which are vertically arranged on the centre console, are in idle position. This provides the driver with maximum comfort upon entering the car. Likewise, the seat only assumes its optimised functional position and shape if and when the driver sits down on it.
 
At that point, the headrest, previously firmly integrated into the seat’s backrest, rises up automatically. At the same time, the steering wheel moves towards  the driver and the instrument panel moves in the same direction. The information on the best driver-specific position of both steering column and seat is stored  in the transducer. The engine is started simply by pushing the start/stop button.

The smooth transition of interior and exterior that is typical of BMW convertibles is reinterpreted by the GINA Light Visionary Model. The fabric that covers  the rear deck runs into the interior and stretches across the driver and front passenger seats. The same material is also used for the surface design of the door trim and armrests. The shift lever in the centre console protrudes from tightly stretched textile bellows.  Driver and front seat passenger look out through a steeply inclined windscreen with the inside rear view mirror integrated into its frame. The side view mirrors are connected to the window frame. A narrow vertical dividing bar located at the center of the windscreen harks back to the typical windscreen division of traditional roadsters.
Innovative thinking put into practice: the GINA Light Visionary Model.

With the GINA Light Visionary Model, BMW Group Design focuses on  a wide variety of issues that will determine the future conception of mobility.  It demonstrates the results of intense research into design, functionality, material and production. All ideas that have been put into practice in the  GINA Light Visionary Model are derived from the same motivation: to challenge conventional and previously pursued solutions. The quest for alternative options has generated a wide variety of different requirements that potential solutions are expected to meet. The main focus is on providing general versatility and catering to customer requirements with sophisticated solutions. In accordance with the GINA principle, every functionality enhancement helps to create an emotional bond between the driver and their car. The new solutions also allow for the option of fast, flexible and cost-efficient production. 

Every innovation demonstrated by the GINA Light Visionary Model also contributes to a clearly optimised resource management. As the quest for sustainability is one of the central issues of the GINA philosophy, new materials and manufacturing processes are expected to consume less resources  and energy than previous solutions. Accordingly, the infrastructure used for manufacturing cars that are built in compliance with the GINA principle,  has also changed. The manufacturing process requires fewer model-specific tools, and more highly-qualified skilled specialists. In all the areas referred  to above, the GINA Light Visionary Model has provided inspiration for more intense research into ideas conceived as a result of maximum creative freedom.

Emotional appeal of roadster models and visionary prospect of  future cars. The solutions conceived as part of this philosophy are not considered separately, but have been pooled in an integrating vision – a vision that is expressed  in the context of an outstanding, fascinating car. The basic features of a roadster with its eight-cylinder combustion engine below a stretched front that applies motive power to the rear wheels in order to move the car along the road defines this context. The synthesis of elementary visions and sheer driving pleasure expressed by the appearance of the GINA Light Visionary Model has a particu-larly striking emotional impact. Only the particular appearance of a fascinating car with its authentic design that creates a natural aesthetic look can bring  to light the significance of the presented innovations.
The GINA Light Visionary Model builds a bridge between vision and reality  by presenting a number of features with a striking similarity with those found on production vehicles. The Roadster rests on 20" alloy wheels in a cross-spoke design with a matt silver finish. The car body is comprised of an exceptionally light aluminum space frame. Two double tailpipes for the rear exhaust system,  a third brake light integrated into the height-adjustable rear spoiler, an air splitter at the front and a rear-end diffuser in a carbon design also meet the standards of a production vehicle.

Nevertheless, the GINA Light Visionary Model retains its character as an object of research. It demonstrates the innovative force of BMW Group Design and  its ability to challenge what is established, to find new solutions and to interpret these in the context of the car of the future at a high aesthetic level. This car  is the logical continuation of the GINA principle in action. The GINA principle has already led to a variety of innovative concepts and has production vehicles in ways that are completely new and unprecedented by any other car manufacturer.
BMW Group Design uses concept cars such as the BMW concept car CS1  of 2002 as a step on the way towards putting a particular vision into practice. The CS1 was the first to present features such as the basic principle of  the innovative control system – the BMW iDrive. Independently from all other innovative features shown by this concept car, the iDrive has become a series production feature. Similarly, the GINA principle gave rise to an innovative manufacturing method that allows the manufacturers to decorate outer skin components that have been preformed by conventional methods with indi-vidually configured, high-precision contour lines prior to their reintegration into the manufacturing process. The Rapid Manufacturing method utilized for  this process was first used during the production of hoods for the BMW Z4  M Roadster and the BMW Z4 M Coupé. In these models, the finished
hood has received two distinctive contour lines prior to painting. These are  not produced by a pressing tool but embossed into the metal with pin-point precision by a robot-guided steel pin.
Both examples illustrate the challenging route from a vision to a concept  and to final series production that is not always straight and direct. With the  GINA Light Visionary Model, BMW Group Design shows where this route begins. Not all innovations shown by the GINA Light Visionary Model will pro-ceed to the next stages. In its entirety, however, the visionary look into the future shows the extent to which the BMW Group employs creative potential  in its endeavor to respond to the challenges of tomorrow’s mobility.



BMW Releases The GINA Light Visonary Modeling Concept



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MiltonMilton - 6/10/2008 3:52:21 AM
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A car made of cloth!!! A car with a flexible outer skin!!!

Looks pretty good actually.I'm impressed.


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w209w114w209w114 - 6/10/2008 11:26:15 AMView My AgentSpace
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It's only enemey is a Knife. I wonder just how resistant and punture proof this material is. I love the eyelids of the car that open and close. I would hot wire it to wink ;-) Nice concept overall


Kraut_godKraut_god - 6/10/2008 4:27:09 PM
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looks like a bad copy of a lexus.


Designer1Designer1 - 6/11/2008 5:47:33 AM
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Just remember to iron it after the wash. lol

So besides the design being as ugly as it can be described, yet it utilizes cloth for body parts. Welcome to the end of the car era. So now not just the mechanical parts of the car will tear down, but the body too. lol



LACMANLACMAN - 6/10/2008 4:48:25 AMView My AgentSpace
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So the "human" car is near?

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SHERRSHERR - 6/10/2008 4:55:05 AM
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That is an utterly brilliant concept!

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MaindrianPaceMaindrianPace - 6/10/2008 5:02:09 AM
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I'm lost for words

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JB007JB007 - 6/10/2008 8:16:51 AM
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http://www.bmw-web.tv/de/channel/new

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KingerKinger - 6/10/2008 8:23:03 AM
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Wow, thats incredible!!


spiritfilledspiritfilled - 6/10/2008 8:54:50 AM
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Lexus invented this concept in 1993. Once again the Germans are copying. lol. just kidding. The genius that is Chris Bangle cannot be appreciated in this generation. Once again he has changed the way we see cars although its a concept, he has done something remarkable here much like he did with flame surfacing. Hate it or love it, he is beyond his years and his contemporaries has he surpassed.

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henbmwhenbmw - 6/10/2008 10:42:39 AM
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+1, pressed the wrong button


HantraHantra - 6/10/2008 12:18:43 PMView My AgentSpace
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Can you back that up? The only thing I see that Lexus was doing back then is trying to build a VW Golf:

http://www.carstyling.ru/cars.1994_Lexus_Landau.html



HantraHantra - 6/11/2008 12:03:35 PMView My AgentSpace
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I didn't think so. . .


amazinBimmeramazinBimmer - 6/10/2008 9:11:55 AM
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spirit.. i totally agree with you.

btw.. i was at the grand prix in montreal this weekend.. amazing...


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2fast4uu2fast4uu - 6/10/2008 1:27:41 PM
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me too...had a blast! got to touch Kimi's broken Ferrari!!!


M53RM53R - 6/10/2008 10:02:28 AMView My AgentSpace
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Awesome concept.

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StarStar - 6/10/2008 10:18:04 AM
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answeranswer - 6/10/2008 10:43:58 AMView My AgentSpace
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DaHarderDaHarder - 6/10/2008 10:45:12 AM
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The Possibilities Here Are Almost Mind-boggling!

This Could Well Be The Birth Of The Morphing Automobile, Able To Take Whatever Shape/Form Required By The Driver At Any Given Time, Limited Only By The Strength/Flexibility Of The Underlying Structure and The Elasticity Of The Outer Skin.


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cdokecdoke - 6/10/2008 11:34:29 AMView My AgentSpace
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"This Could Well Be The Birth Of The Morphing Automobile, Able To Take Whatever Shape/Form Required "

That isn't as far out as some might imagine. The U.S. government has looked into using shape shifting materials in order to modify aircraft aerodynamics in-flight.

The caveat is that the government utilized materials that can change their rigid shape.

On that thought, you can probably make the exterior of this car rigid at will as well. If it was woven in metal correctly, then you should be able to make it rigid or semi-rigid by inducing a magnetic flux through it. Of course, that is not without its problems.

This is certainly an interesting and unique BMW concept.



BremboBrembo - 6/10/2008 10:46:36 AM
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That is the most awesome and weird material used for a car. Very Cool!

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204E60204E60 - 6/10/2008 10:59:02 AM
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What Cruella de Vil will be driving in the future.

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HantraHantra - 6/10/2008 11:19:40 AMView My AgentSpace
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So I guess we'll be pulling the skin off to wash it in the washing machine!? KEWL!

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Peyton18Peyton18 - 6/10/2008 11:55:21 AM
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Take off that skin and put on a black one for night travel...pretty cool!

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laurentlaurent - 6/10/2008 12:07:27 PM
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It will looks like jeremy clarkson in a ariel atom when it will ride at 200km/h

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BimmerFanBimmerFan - 6/10/2008 12:25:32 PM
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Brilliant. Im glad that VAG (Volkswagen Auto Group) didnt design this or it would be called the VAG-GINA.

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thetruth01thetruth01 - 6/10/2008 1:15:31 PM
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You have just single-handedly renewed my faith in the possibilities of this site.


KingerKinger - 6/11/2008 9:12:52 AM
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lol, brilliant!


theoptimisticpessimisttheoptimisticpessimist - 6/10/2008 12:31:12 PM
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cckwcckw - 6/10/2008 12:31:17 PM
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There comes the day I envision dry-cleaning my car! LOL! Only BMW can engage in such self-indulgence in design! I must admit I would like it better in pink fabric so when the door opens, it will look like a new born rodent with creased skin and no hair! Brah ha ha ha!

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nsmattnsmatt - 6/10/2008 1:12:46 PM
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This should put an end to all of the "BMW isn't innovative" bs that comes out of 'certain people's mouths on this website every so often.

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t_bonet_bone - 6/10/2008 1:18:05 PM
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JRobUSCJRobUSC - 6/10/2008 4:19:10 PM
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you knew there'd just HAVE to be one jealousy filled hate spewer in a BMW thread, no matter how cool the concept was. Congratulations, T-Bone, you're the one. Here's your jackass sign.


thetruth01thetruth01 - 6/10/2008 1:20:08 PM
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Does it come in prints and patterns? floral designs? paisleys? I'll take mine in houndstooth.

Seriously, what happens when you get a rip? That was a long article (but the video is cool, tho Bangle is a little self absorbed, natch....i digress...) so I couldnt skim to find any mention of whether it is cloaked in panels, or if the whole thing has to be reskinned after damage.


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JRobUSCJRobUSC - 6/10/2008 1:26:24 PM
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They said it took two hours to reskin the car, so even if it meant replacing the entire skin if it got damaged, it would still be less time consuming than replacing body panels, especially since you don't have to paint the skin. I have no idea what the skin costs though.


kthorkthor - 6/10/2008 3:43:20 PM
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It is a concept, not a production car, so questions about repair and cost are not relevant to its goals.


Auto_expertAuto_expert - 6/10/2008 1:38:14 PM
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Flame surfacing eXtreme.

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farabira1farabira1 - 6/10/2008 1:48:19 PM
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Wow, i am lost for words. Great work. It seems like people will be able to mold technology to do whatever they wish in the future. It is hard to predict what future holds for us, may be we will have a car that can repair itself with nanorobots or maybe a car that can communicate with other cars to check if that car is about to change lanes, or whatever. I don't know, this is like running wild with imagination, this car by BMW, very awesome.

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HantraHantra - 6/10/2008 2:05:59 PMView My AgentSpace
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>>maybe a car that can communicate with other cars to check if that car is about to change lanes

Hell we're READY for that one. People already expect you to read their minds on the road, AND concentrate on what you're doing.



KingerKinger - 6/11/2008 9:17:36 AM
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Aren't BMW working on a system for communication between cars?

Here's a link: http://www.bmw.com/com/en/insights/technology/connecteddrive/vehicletovehicle.html



F1_DriverF1_Driver - 6/10/2008 2:16:26 PM
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Is it me or does this thing look like a catfish?

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MtlMotorsMtlMotors - 6/10/2008 3:12:46 PM
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It's you


TheSailorTheSailor - 6/10/2008 2:37:29 PMView My AgentSpace
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This is such a cool concept! I'm not entirely in love with the design, however the product is just, well... Über geil! This is just incredibly cool.

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spiritfilledspiritfilled - 6/10/2008 3:29:25 PM
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The ignorant strikes back (T-Bone). In your attempts to discredit Mr. Bangle's creativity, you've only managed to elevate it all the more. It might have been a technology cast away by the aircraft industry, but the fact remains, Bangle has resurrected it (assuming it was really abandoned by the aircraft industry like you say) and has given it a new life. If the aircraft industry used aluminum to construct aircrafts but then decided not to go with it anymore, then BMW came and started applying the lightweight and durable material to make cars, you will still have a problem with it. Have you heard of the word "concept" or "creative" or how about "future" "potential", no, never, oh sorry, please remain ignorant and while you're at it remain of the posts of Autospies for a while. Bangle is looking ahead to see what kind of forms and apperances cars can take, this might eventually even be applied to man other fields. Its and idea, you know those things that might one day turn out to be applicable tangible manifestations that humans will say wow, looks cool and works well too, that is what we call "TECHNOLOGY" my friend, like the personal computer, internet, fighter jets, iphones, 100+ story buildings things we thought impossible not too long ago, and look at what we've done today. Bangle has started or "restarted" something my friend, sit back and enjoy brilliance you could only dream of being transferred to you.

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LexusLexus - 6/10/2008 4:43:12 PM
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This definitely win 1st place in my book in of the UGLIEST Concept design I have seen.

Talk about ulgy, even Kia and Hyundia have better looking concept than this.



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S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 6/11/2008 12:55:06 AMView My AgentSpace
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This isn't about the looks. READ THE ARTICLE.


sizquiksizquik - 6/10/2008 5:13:26 PM
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I take it all work has been done on fixing i-drive? I don't get it.

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F1_DriverF1_Driver - 6/10/2008 5:15:14 PM
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Batman! Your new ride is here!!! LOL

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Bmw8terBmw8ter - 6/10/2008 5:39:25 PM
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The ability to "rip" the hood open like a chest cavity, to reveal the engine, is pretty intriguing. I could play with that option all day long.

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IhavearedS2000IhavearedS2000 - 6/10/2008 6:14:29 PM
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The skin job reminds me of Honda's latest concepts (Puyo's soft touch skin, CRZ's fabric stretched across the interior architecture) - creepy, but impressive. When I saw the headlights blink it almost looked like a cgi effect or something. And that engine coming out of the hood like that reminds me for some reason of the Alien movies....haha, how fun.

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85bmw745i85bmw745i - 6/10/2008 6:29:06 PMView My AgentSpace
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All I can say is WOW! I did not see that coming. Never could even imagine this. Reminds me of alien morphing technology or something along those lines.

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mplsmpls - 6/10/2008 8:46:19 PM
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Looks like a bad copy of one of the Honda NSX replacement studies..

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S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 6/11/2008 12:56:22 AMView My AgentSpace
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This is simply incredible. I can't imagine what it would be like. Kudos to BMW--now let's see them make it happen!

One note... I saw a black Maserati Gran Turismo today... if I had one I wouldn't want this technology because I wouldn't ever want to change the way it looked. IMO it's the new most beautiful car in the world. Wish it had a bit more grunt though.


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farabira1farabira1 - 6/11/2008 11:41:11 AM
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Now i remember, the skin used on this Gina concept is exactly like an apparel that was displayed as a vest in the movie batman begins with Christian Bale as the lead actor. That apparel could be inflated, or molded to different specification and shape and would be hard enough to stop a bullet. I thought at that time that it was all a child's fantasy science fiction, but now seeing BMWs work, i am completely dumbstruck. Is this really possible? i questioned myself after seeing the movie, well BMW has just proved my wrong. I am starting to like BMW a lot more than i did two days ago.

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MercedesBenz00ZMercedesBenz00Z - 6/12/2008 1:27:54 AM
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That is garbage. This concept obviously is not gonna go in production so what is the point of this?

I am a fan of BMW, but this is absolutely ridiculous. It almost looks as if BMW just wanted to get some attention...like they did with 1 series and X6.

They don't even know if this is gonna be their future car, so what's the point of showing us this now?

I seriously think BMW is trying to become more like Toyota or GM.


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kthorkthor - 6/12/2008 12:50:28 PM
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You need to read the article before you open your mouth.


C88CC88C - 6/12/2008 7:10:37 AMView My AgentSpace
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Um, besides all the other stuff said, this is a hyped-up version of what the next Z4 will look like. If you take a look the latest spy shots of the upcoming Z4, the kidney grill, the front and rear lights, and the side profile, it looks very similar to this concept, just toned down. I think the next Z4 is going to be huge step foward and will make room for a Z2?

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kthorkthor - 6/13/2008 8:05:52 PM
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How do you know the design is related to the next Z4? I looked the photos and they were all camouflaged. I agree that Z4 test cars look promising, but the GINA has been around for years inside BMW.


huu76huu76 - 6/14/2008 1:44:35 AM
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Add a VA prefix and you've got one of BMW's core market segments, although I doubt even they'd be desperate enough to be seen with a propellor if it were attached to that monstrosity.

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C88CC88C - 6/16/2008 8:36:53 AMView My AgentSpace
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kthor:

I know it's related to the Z4 by looking at the details (as mentioned already in my post), the grill, profile and front - rear lights. Don't worry if you can't see it.

Also, your comment about the GINA being around in BMW for years confuses me? How long do you think they have spent designing the new Z4, a day or maybe a week? No, it has also been undergoing development for years.


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kthorkthor - 6/16/2008 2:23:59 PM
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C88C, The article says that the concept car has been around for ten years, that's 1998! It makes more sense to draw a connection between the GINA and the last Z4 not the new one. I'm not sure why you have a hostile tone, I am just asking for some support for a claim you made. Where did your asinine comment about the Z4 being designed in a day or week come from?

".” For more than ten years now, these issues have inspired Bangle’s ideas. Time and time again, these ideas have been motivating the BMW Group Design team to break new ground and to find pioneering solutions. These results have spawned new customer expectations which in turn inspires designers to develop further innovations."




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