BMW X6 destroyed the Cayenne GTS on Nurburgring test

kthor submitted on 08/12/2008 Official AutoSpies Timestamp: 6:19 PM
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BMW X6 destroyed the Cayenne GTS on Nurburgring test

Some of you might remember the BMW leaked document in which the new X6 xDrive50i was being compared to the Porsche Cayenne GTS. At that time, many people believed that since it was a BMW leaked document, the numbers might not be as accurate as they want us to believe.

I inclined to believe these allegations, but in the same time, I knew that the leaked document was an internal memo that had no marketing purposes. A few months later, the fellow car lovers at AutoBild had the opportunity to put the BMW X6 xDrive50i head-to-head with the Porsche Cayenne GTS.

So, 0-100km/h, 5.4 for the X6 and 6.1 for the Cayenne GTS.
Now, let’s see what the AutoBild folks have to say:

Nürburgring-Nordschleife times:
1. 8.54,4 min (max. 240,9 km/h) - X6 (automatic)
2. 9.01,9 min (max. 228,1 km/h) - Cayenne GTS (manual)

Weight:
1. 2378 kg - X6
2. 2410 kg - Cayenne GTS

Acceleration 0-100 km/h:
1. 5,7 s - X6
2. 6,7 s - Cayenne GTS

GPS-topspeed:
1. 263 km/h - Cayenne GTS
2. 252 km/h - X6 (limited)

Braking 100-0 km/h (warm):
1. 37,4 m - Cayenne GTS
2. 37,7 m - X6

Basic price:
1. 73 800 € - X6
2. 78 034 € - Cayenne GTS

Besides being faster from 0-100km/h, the BMW X6 xDrive50i was 7 seconds faster on the Nurburgring lap as well.

With a lower price, better fuel consumption and free 4-year maintenance, the X6 is a better buy. Sorry guys, as much as I like Porsche, the X6 takes the win this time.
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bmwman1963 - 8/12/2008 6:32:31 PMView My AgentSpace

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No suprise here...

BMW is "The Ultimate Driving Machine"

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B7FAN - 8/13/2008 8:51:16 AM

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thank you bmwman1963

this is another classic story how another VW gets beat out by BMW...Doesnt VW ever learn

B7FAN - 8/13/2008 8:54:24 AM

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hey star if you need a luxury car to bag up some chics you must have a hard time looking in the mirror or you just dont have any game. If i could bag chics in a camry there aint goin to be no difference in a bmw you doin it backwards

993Turbo - 8/13/2008 8:58:28 AM

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The brakes on the X6 suck. Plus, think about all that cosmoline running out from the seams on that BMW!

1dott8 - 8/13/2008 9:33:30 AMView My AgentSpace

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b7fan, why don't you just leave this enthusiast site and go to a bmw site and everyone will agree with you?

993Turbo - 8/13/2008 10:35:21 AM

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Not to mention. The GTS has more leg room. I looked at both and bought the GTS partly on that basis.

993Turbo - 8/13/2008 10:54:20 AM

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Also, the GTS in the test had the optional roof rails that probably created extra drag.

B7FAN - 8/13/2008 4:46:21 PM

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hey 1dott8 why dont you hop off deeeeeeezzz

1dott8 - 8/13/2008 10:22:01 PMView My AgentSpace

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hey b7fan, shut the hell up and make sense for once.

M_Coupe_MonacoBlue - 8/14/2008 6:16:19 PM

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The Ultimate Driving Machine YAY !

kthor - 8/12/2008 6:33:15 PM

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The X6 is bargain when you put the whole picture into perspective. It has created its own class, yet dominates the existing ones.

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dumpsty - 8/13/2008 12:43:09 PM

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The introduction of the X6 did not create a new class of vehicle.

Htay7500 - 8/12/2008 6:52:52 PM

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Amazing but performance SUVs = oxymoron.

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JRobUSC - 8/12/2008 7:19:19 PM

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makes you wonder what BMW could do what that engine and xDrive/DPC system in a vehicle that didn't weigh 4900lbs.

New 550xi anyone?

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rumnyc - 8/12/2008 7:38:17 PM

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i recall reading somewhere on this site that it will be called 555i/xi.

JRobUSC - 8/12/2008 7:51:30 PM

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Actually we're both wrong. I read they were changing it too a while back, but apparently BMW has decided to keep the "550" for continuity sake, just as they are keeping the new 7-Series the "750". So the new twin turbo V8 550 will be the "550i" still, and the all-wheel drive version will be the "550i xDrive".

That'd be the car I'd want (and the timing should work out perfectly with the end of my 535xi lease). I just hope by that time they'll actually allow you to get the sport suspension on the all-wheel drive cars. Are you listening BMW? Just because we want AWD doesn't mean we don't want the sport suspension. Audi has it with the S-Line package. You let us get sport suspensions on the X3, X5, and X6. Now let us get the sport suspension on the all-wheel drive cars too, where it would actually make sense. And with the X6's DPC torque vectoring system.

Bored - 8/12/2008 7:35:41 PM

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Congrats to the X6 for a job well done.

But I can't be the only person that doesn't see the X6 having a true competitor to go against right now. I would much prefer that a X5 4.8i (glad that BMW will finally offer a M version soon, but they need to offer the 5.0L Twin Turbo V8 now) go against a Porsche Cayenne GTS, Range Rover Sport Supercharged and a Merc ML550 at the Ring.

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SVXXX - 8/12/2008 8:00:45 PM

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Not that surprising. Cayenne is too bulky.
I wonder how the FX50 would do on Nurburgring

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JRobUSC - 8/12/2008 8:01:39 PM

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probably in between the two.

CRS2112 - 8/12/2008 8:30:47 PM

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imagine how you would do on the track with your mom's bmw 318......

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Audiphile - 8/12/2008 10:30:20 PM

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As you like to equate Audis with Volkswagens, consider a contest between the X6 and the Audi Q7 V12 TDI. The big Audi has 500 horsepower, 773 ft-lb of torque, and can do 0-62 in less than 5.5 seconds, all the while getting a combined city/highway mileage of better than 20 mpg.

Be careful what you wish for, dear boy!

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1dott8 - 8/12/2008 11:24:57 PMView My AgentSpace

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it's obvious that you are not an enthusiast. why don't you just go onto a bmw blog and post all of your ignorance there?

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B7FAN - 8/13/2008 8:57:10 AM

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audi is still learning from BMW they dont have to teach them they copy

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Heyhuub - 8/13/2008 9:09:43 AM

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Well it could just match the old MK4 VW Golf GTI which also did 8:54

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VISO - 8/13/2008 1:41:52 PM

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B7FAN = AMAZINGIDOIT

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B7FAN - 8/14/2008 12:20:33 PM

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Hey VISO dont give me your family members nicknames leave in the fam

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CRS2112 - 8/12/2008 8:36:41 PM

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It didn't say if the same guy was driving both machines. Same time of day? I don't doubt numbers - but there are a lot of variables. 7 seconds on track that large can be caused by a number of things. Isn't the track like 13 miles? Anyway - no doubt the BMW is impressive. With pretty equal numbers - I think it comes down to buyer preference.

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B7FAN - 8/13/2008 9:01:53 AM

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hey CRS2112 dont make excuses for audi with different variables. the VW Cayenne couldnt do the job that BMW did as it was from the start and as it will always be

1dott8 - 8/13/2008 10:26:03 PMView My AgentSpace

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b7fan - porsche owns shares of vw, does that make it a vw? i think not. research is key my brother. research.

B7FAN - 8/14/2008 7:52:11 AM

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they concept of the very first porsche came from the VW BUG....Why do you think they still have the engine in the back like the very first VW bug. VW is the only reason why Porsche exists.

1dott8 - 8/14/2008 1:28:04 PMView My AgentSpace

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b7fan - if that's the case then all cars are variables of the ford model T. come on dude.

B7FAN - 8/14/2008 3:34:41 PM

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yo dott see you going off the deep end you in the water with the sharks come over and join us where its safe....come on stick to the facts we all know why porsche came to life and it is what it is...Dont try to go back to 1909 when the model T was made....so porsche was made because of a rear engine RWD Ford model T....Right...right....yeah i know

Audiphile - 8/12/2008 8:40:22 PM

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Congratulations to BMW.

I belong to the Audi Club of North America, or ACNA. (You don't have to own an Audi in order to belong, by the way.) ACNA conducts many driving schools each year at various racetracks around the country (Road Atlanta, VIR, Watkins Glen, etc.). The club will not allow pickup trucks or SUVs to participate in these driving schools because of the rollover risk inehrent in vehicles with a high center of gravity. ACNA will not even allow high-performance SUVS like the GTS and X6. Perhaps ACNA will relax the rules in the future once the safety of high-performance SUVs in high-speed maneuvers has been demonstrated, assuming the insurance companies don't dig in their heels.

I don't follow SUVs very closely because I don't drive one or want one. However, I recall that Porsche originally designed the Cayenne so that it would perform well both off-road and on-road. I don't know if the GTS still has the excellent off-road capability of its less powerful Cayenne siblings, or if Porsche has compromised the GTS's off-road prowess in order to maximize its on-road performance.

It appears that the X6 has bested the Cayenne GTS in on-road performance. It will be interesting to see how the two cars compare off-road as well.

While we are on the subject of the "utility" of these two "sport-utility vehicles", we might as well compare the useful cargo room and towing capacity of the X6 and GTS.

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B7FAN - 8/13/2008 9:07:43 AM

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first of all the VW Cayenne the first one was terrible off road because it was made too much for on road instead of off road. now the GTS im not sure about because I really dont follow VW too much unless I compare it to a BMW and even there is no comparo there either.

CRS2112 - 8/12/2008 9:22:45 PM

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I needed to belong to bmwcca to get the discount on the parts I needed to replace each month......

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theoptimisticpessimist - 8/12/2008 9:30:42 PM

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Hey I one of the biggest BMW fans here, but every car I MEAN EVERY car that plays at this level is fantastic. Do us true BMW fans a lesson and go learn some rationality.

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Audiphile - 8/12/2008 10:22:22 PM

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Matchbox toy BMWs don't count, amazin! :-)

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lewishamiltonpimp - 8/12/2008 11:09:57 PM

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I belong because it gets me $500 off every 3 series I buy. Some models get you a check for $1000. 'The Roundel' is also a first class magazine.

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sector - 8/12/2008 9:00:39 PM

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This is like getting the news that 2 hungry hungry hippos did a 100m dash and the blue (henry) hippo got the win...

it falls under the "I don't care" and "glad I wasn't there" category.

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FactsRule - 8/12/2008 9:21:10 PM

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Then by all means retard auto001, don't care yourself right off of this forum..

You never have anything productive to say and your facts are always way off base. Not to mention the fact that you have hundreds of profiles on this site just to BOOST YOUR EGO!

Staar, auto001, teknik whatever same cheerleader.. LOL Sound familiar.. The words of a retard.

sector - 8/12/2008 9:57:06 PM

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You sound like a man with an itch you could never scratch :)

typical BMW ball licker with anger management issues.

theoptimisticpessimist - 8/12/2008 10:00:03 PM

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auto001

Your comments make one wonder what the LS600 can do the "ring" in.

sector - 8/12/2008 10:52:29 PM

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I don't care who fast the uboat can get around the ring either, but at least the LS600 is a green car (sort of) with the performance to match any German V12s.

theoptimisticpessimist - 8/12/2008 11:31:33 PM

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Oh I'm sorry that's the best comeback you have?

Let's see the LS 600 has less fuel economy than a Chevy Tahoe(2wd). I'm struggling to think of the a road test the LS 600 has won, oh wait it hasn't. Hey at least it a very nice car.

But if it's any consolation I sure the LS would beat the Tahoe around the ring.

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sector - 8/13/2008 12:15:48 PM

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Miss out on some reading comprehension courses in school? my original post was that 5000lb useless behemoths like X6 going around the ring is not only out of place but as interesting to witness as a pair of ice cream trucks shooting for the chicane.

And why did you bring up LS600 and do a unwarranted comparison with the Tahoe of all vehicles, do you normally cross shop a $40k car to a $100k car? Lexus is a ultra luxury car catering to those who want to be driven, not drive, it hits 0-60 in 5.5 and is probably one of the quietest, luxurious cars you can buy at any price while doing a respectable 20/22 mpg.

american_made - 8/12/2008 9:05:59 PM

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WHO CARES....

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MSP6 - 8/12/2008 9:11:12 PM

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Still waiting for MichaelTaylor to tell us that the lexus RX is faster, roomier,handles better, more confy and even more appealing than those two...

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audirevolution - 8/13/2008 1:19:52 AM

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Since he's not commenting this article, I'll be like him just for this moment.

"The RX-F will destroy both of these! Plus it will be more reliable and roomier. It will also be much safer and better built."

Audiphile - 8/13/2008 9:24:32 AM

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Mikey,

LOL - I boosted your comment for the first time!

enthusiastx11 - 8/13/2008 12:53:15 PM

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MT:

are you actually a 42-year old housewife?

JudasLease - 8/12/2008 9:57:12 PM

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Sorry but the X6 is someone way uglier than a Cayenne. And the Cayenne is old, the X6 new with turbos. Bragging about one ugly SUV beating another is like bragging your fat ugly kid beat up another fat ugly kid.

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nozferatu - 8/12/2008 11:47:50 PM

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Seriously..

This whole test is a joke…it’s akin to a bunch of lard-ass obese people running the hurdles…and we’re all dumb enough to sit and watch.

Well done folks...we at least know who the dumbshits are.

What a waste of resources.

FactsRule - 8/13/2008 9:11:08 AM

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another profile huh staar...

nozferatu - 8/15/2008 1:52:50 AM

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Trust me...I'm not starr.

Audiphile - 8/12/2008 10:45:04 PM

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Porsche has introduced the Cayenne Turbo. It has 500 hp, 518 ft-lb of torque, can do 0-60 in 4.9 seconds, and can reach a top speed of 171 mph. This car will apparently spank the X6 on a racetrack. However, it costs almost $98,000!

The German horsepower race goes on, even for SUVs. Have Audi, BMW, Mercedes-Benz and Porsche ever heard of the "law of diminishing returns"?

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enthusiastx11 - 8/13/2008 12:55:08 PM

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and that's the base price of the turbo. add in a few options and the cayenne easily flys past $120K. so basically you could get an X6 and a 335i for the same money.

theoptimisticpessimist - 8/12/2008 11:28:35 PM

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theoptimisticpessimist - 8/12/2008 11:32:26 PM

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Sorry about the repost RATS! miss the right link.

enthusiastx11 - 8/13/2008 10:03:57 PM

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the LSwhat? hasn't that been discontinued due to waning sales?

theoptimisticpessimist - 8/13/2008 12:38:54 AM

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"Who care's how fast they are around the "Ring", the X6 Aztek is a sales FAILURE."

Well you just lost all your creditability, as much as I don't like the X6, It's sold out. Do some research next time will ya.

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nozferatu - 8/13/2008 1:32:27 AM

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Please...the Cayenne is a joke. I like neither overweight POS but anyone who buys a Cayenne is fking blind.

That car is one ugly POS.

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theoptimisticpessimist - 8/13/2008 4:21:46 AM

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nozferatu

Sorry I have to disagree, I think both are grotesque.

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JRobUSC - 8/13/2008 11:47:53 AM

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"Well you [Staar] just lost all your creditability"

optimisticpessimist, I give you credit, you must be the most patient, forgiving human being on the planet -- Staar lost all his credibility a loooooong time ago.

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nozferatu - 8/15/2008 1:54:48 AM

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Why the fk does everyone keep thinking I'm starr? WTF is wrong with you idiots? I'm slamming that loser on other threads...lol.

Think...a little?

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nozferatu - 8/15/2008 1:55:24 AM

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theoptimisticpessimist:

I agree there...both are ugly.

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t_bone - 8/13/2008 12:38:03 AM

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I'm curious what the BMW 335 Touring would get, the sedan turns in 8:26, almost a half minute faster than the X6.

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AmazonPrinceIS350 - 8/13/2008 7:40:49 AM

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autoo1:

You are sooo right about them being hippos. Imagine these SUV's at full speed going around the corner. Its' not a pretty sight especially on 95 where I am from, over here these drivers are driving those things like their sports cars. LOL!

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enthusiastx11 - 8/13/2008 12:50:11 PM

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so essentially the X6 beat the cayenne on EVERY SINGLE performance dimension. and it's less expensive. that's rather impressive.

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KeyserSoze - 8/13/2008 1:41:54 PM

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The BMW X6 is quite agile but it looks like an egg with 4 wheels and the styling is an aqquired taste whether sold ov or not. There was an article on Autospies where the Infinity FX destroyed the X6.

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BMW4me4ever - 8/14/2008 11:26:18 AMView My AgentSpace

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The FX never destroyed the X6. The X6 3.5 was faseter than the FX35 . The X6 5.0 was faster than the FX50 in aspects of the preformance but lost due to price being the reason. Even though the FX50 is not a direct competitor the BMW X6 ...

07mcs - 8/13/2008 6:54:30 PM

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a little unfair competition. a twin turbocharged 4.4 liter V8 is going to give more performance than a normally aspirated 4.8 V8, because it has more torque, that is needed to keep so much weight moving.

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AdHominem - 8/13/2008 7:21:26 PM

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And, if the Porsche had won would be unfair because it costs more so we should expect it to win? The BMW has a superior engineering solution that works well in this case, fairness isn't even a factor.

enthusiastx11 - 8/13/2008 10:05:16 PM

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unfair? does porsche not have turbo technology?

Agent63 - 8/13/2008 7:00:42 PMView My AgentSpace

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I don't think the X6 and the Cayenne GTS should be going head to head. It should be the X5 that should, simply because the X6 is a crossover.

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chewy - 8/13/2008 9:58:20 PMView My AgentSpace

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The GTS doesn't add too much extra performance, you need the turbo for some extra get up and go.

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Speedoholic - 8/14/2008 8:24:15 AMView My AgentSpace

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Lexus Fanboys: The RX would kill both of them.

Yeah if it has a turbocharged V10

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kthor - 8/14/2008 2:07:30 PM

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Even then it wouldn't have a chance. The RX suspension is mush, the brakes are panty-weight, the power steering cavitates during the most basic avoidance maneuvers (it stops functioning), and it is unbalanced beyond hope. The V10 would certaining offer more torque steer though.

vman1013 - 8/14/2008 4:25:01 PM

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My Grand Cherokee SRT-8 will smoke both of those. For $30k less!

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AudiNewEngland - 8/15/2008 7:19:45 AM

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Don't worry, there will be a recall for all these X6's in a couple of years anyways. Luckily there won't be that many on the road to begin with because they're ugly as shit and made for people who think they're wealthy, yet in fact are merely trash.

Now the Q7 V12 TDI...mmm; We'll see.

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enthusiastx11 - 8/15/2008 11:50:35 AM

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is that insecurity i hear in your voice?

some audis are wonderful cars...but most of them are a complete bore.

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