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BMW's next 7-series is a technological marvel

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BMW's next 7-series is a technological marvel

BMW bought this 191-acre site in 1986; all models since have been partly developed here. The facility now has 32 miles of test routes: a high-speed banked circuit and various handling tracks, including one with water sprinklers, an FIA-approved grand prix test circuit, even an exact replica of the Nürburgring's fearsome Karussell corner. The original racing circuit, an oval, and its tiny grandstand, have been preserved Read Article

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lovecars11 - 8/17/2008 8:47:12 AM

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lewishamiltonpimp - 8/17/2008 9:24:48 AM

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Wow. Can you give the laptop back to your mom please and go do your chores.

S30GTR - 8/17/2008 1:08:23 PM

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this kind of racial comments shouldn't be allowed. he should be banned.

silver1 - 8/17/2008 8:48:42 PM

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lovecars11 - 8/17/2008 11:01:43 PM

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WorldofLuxury - 8/18/2008 12:13:04 AM

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I'd hate to say this, but I kinda agree with silver1...

I mean, there's many people out there that can create wonders, but like the light bulb, that's not completely true. Edison's true reason to come into fame is his marvelous electric lamp that LASTED! Quite a few people were competing with him...trying to patent their products, but Edison's lasted for not just hours but days...
I praise the 7's gadgets, but if BMW really wants to impress me (and millions of others), they've gotta make their technologies more reliable...not fool-proof, just reliable.

kthor - 8/18/2008 1:25:25 AM

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Why is it not racial just because you are black? It most certainly IS racial and it is inappropriate.

lovecars11 - 8/18/2008 1:59:08 AM

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kthor - 8/18/2008 2:18:44 AM

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lovescars, it doesn't matter what color you are if the words you use are racial. It is the words that count, not the speaker. And, insulting me with poor English is not adding to your persuasiveness.

ErichHartmann - 8/18/2008 2:44:02 AM

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WorldofLuxury,

Your incredibly biased comments have made you loose all credibility you had. You Lexus fanatics are so full of yourself with propaganda. You talk as if other brands cannot build cars that last long - they can. Furthermore owner treatment is a big and often overlooked factor.

If you knew anything about cars you would see that in many parts of Eastern Europe, North Africa, South America and the Middle East and Asia too there are many older cars still in use from Mercedes, Peugeot, Renault, BMW, Volkswagen, Fiat etc. that have withstood the test of time and simply refuse to die. I've traveled around the world, I've seen cars in places where you'd just wonder how they do it, how they manage to take all this abuse and still soldier on. Toyota makes long-lasting cars, too, but give it a rest with this "Lexus is king" BS. Lexus is so overrated (by the press, by fans and by people with no clue).

lovecars11 - 8/18/2008 7:16:56 AM

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Kthor- My point of my last blog was the poor grammar. I am please that you noticed because proved what I suspected, a huge chip on your shoulder. It is not my fault that your are an American and along with your country, have screwed the world.

FitzLA - 8/18/2008 10:12:56 PM

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Lovecars11, try going to school and learning proper grammar and spelling. People might take you more seriously when you hit puberty.

abcd - 8/17/2008 9:46:32 AM

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silver1 - 8/17/2008 11:15:10 AM

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EnnNorak - 8/17/2008 12:31:59 PM

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abcd - 8/17/2008 6:35:28 PM

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Hey .. I only said it`s not innovative but this not mean it`s bad , it`s probably very good engineered . Not every new car must be innovative , so I would change title from technological marvel to engineering marvel .

FitzLA - 8/18/2008 10:14:35 PM

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Silver...You need to start using spell check too. It would be "there are much better choices" not "Their....". Again, graduate elementary school and then come back.

qweasdzxc - 8/17/2008 12:16:10 PM

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Star - 8/17/2008 10:20:47 AM

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"BMW's next 7-series is a technological marvel"

Indeed it is.

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silver1 - 8/17/2008 11:41:39 AM

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theoptimisticpessimist - 8/17/2008 5:09:15 PM

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“WHY has BMW had not released a HYBRID”

Because they sell diesels. Most over the world finds diesel more efficient and better performing than hybrids. Looking at the world market, North America is the only country that has embraced hybrids. Hybrids from BMW on the way to answer that demand..

“Only major innovation has been awarded to the Lexus.”

Who has awarded Lexus for the major innovations? How many “engine of the year awards have they won compared to BMW.

“Lexus's 3 models has hybrids with ultra reliability 14 years in a row”.

Which Lexus hybrid has been out for 14 years?

“Honda has hydrogen cars in production already. Where is BMWs hydrogen?”

For sale in California, BMW beat Honda to the market by a couple of months

“ Toyota is posibly coming out with a Solar power collecting Prius(Lexus version?) and where are BMWs solar innovation? “

What innovation, Audi has it, Saab had it years ago. Just like four wheel steer (which I agree with you on) nothing new here.

“Plug in hybrids are right around the corner!”

Yes but neither Toyota or Lexus will be first with them

“True innovation of engineering isn't about night vision or 4 wheel steering but it is beyond this. It has to be a whole. It has to be balanced. The car has to be Gold standard on all categories not just a handling.”

I concur completely, as far a balance goes why has the current LS has never won a comparison test. The LS 600 has always finished last in every test I’ve read.

It Simply speaking...BMW are overhyped due to handling prowess that 95%

No car I MEAN NO CAR, at this level is over-hyped. They are all extraordinary machine.

“folks will NEVER even get close to using especially in the U.S. BMWs are so damn focused on 0-60, top speed and handling”

BMW regards both handling and speed as a safety feature, accident avoidance.

“BMW gets recalled when there are problems.
Toyota promptly recalls themselves.”

Complete fiction, nobody wants recalls, nobody, and nobody out of "good faith."

For the record BMW has a higher percentage of cars recommend from Consumer Reports than Toyota does.

silver1 - 8/17/2008 10:53:31 AM

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EL34 - 8/17/2008 1:25:43 PM

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One of the most advanced features of the Lexus LS is the wired remote in the back seat.

NASA better be taking notes.

85bmw745i - 8/17/2008 9:00:53 PMView My AgentSpace

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LMAO!!!

omega2005 - 8/18/2008 12:40:06 AM

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EL.. lol! nice one

QuantumMatrix - 8/17/2008 10:57:24 AM

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This is going to be the new Benchmark for the high end luxury class..

Good work BMW!!

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silver1 - 8/17/2008 11:01:47 AM

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Star - 8/17/2008 11:13:07 AM

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MT "BMW is only the benchmark when it comes to handling and making really uncomfortable cars"

uncomfortable ...for the competition. Lol...

silver1 - 8/17/2008 11:21:48 AM

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EnnNorak - 8/17/2008 12:34:06 PM

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audirevolution - 8/17/2008 4:52:25 PM

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"Most respected brand"

Actually that goes to Mercedes-Benz.
Everywhere outside of the U.S.A., Lexus is considered an overpriced Toyota with no prestige.
Sales in Europe and Japan were disappointing, if not horrendous. Sure sales were up 200%. They sold 3 cars this year instead of 1.
Lexus sales worldwide are not even half of BMW or even Audi.

"Worlds most powerful country"

Now I know you're a Japanese man working for Toyota.
The worlds most powerful country still is the USA.
CHINA has 99897 times more power than Japan. Is the Japanese government brainwashing you?
Who defeated you in WWII? Oh wait, you don't know what that is. The Japanese government brainwashes and denies that it ever took place. It hides the fact that they killed millions of people like the Germans.

"LF-A"

That cars been nothing but hype all along. It keeps getting delayed and will be overpriced. Who knows if it will even ever come out?
The NSX will be a much better choice. Who'd choose an LF-A over a Ferrari? Ferrari/Lamborghini owners buy their cars for the prestige, name, driving feel, and styling (All of which Lexus lacks). They won't even consider it.
The GT-R and the NSX are the top supercars from Japan and are priced much lower than what the LF-A will command. These two are a much better value.

silver1 - 8/17/2008 11:10:58 AM

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Star - 8/17/2008 11:15:35 AM

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"This Article is killing me"

More articles like this please. If poison doesn't work give the Japanese fanatics articles about BMW and maybe we will finally get rid of them.

silver1 - 8/17/2008 11:29:05 AM

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Star - 8/17/2008 11:49:52 AM

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"Lexus is the closest peaceful man made masterpiece thing to heaven"

That would be a fabulous slogan if Lexus would be in business with let's say...caskets.

EL34 - 8/17/2008 1:28:06 PM

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silver1, aren't you a robot made in Japan :-?

audirevolution - 8/17/2008 4:40:00 PM

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Japan is also home to war-criminals, lovers of Hirohito, people who were responsible to the "Asian holocaust", people who support incest, and people who believe that they are a superior race. Japan also has a weird fashion sense and is home to some of the weirdest things on the planet.

Silver, you're a TROLL. I'm beginning to think you work for Toyota in Japan.
Lexus isn't all that great..Lexus copies the Germans everytime. And underneath it all, Lexus is just a fancy Toyota. They look the same inside and out and are equally as boring to drive. Heck, the LS looks like a bloated Camboat.
The LX is a LandCruiser, the ES a CAMRY. The SC is a Soarer. The GX a Prado. The RX a Harrier.

audirevolution - 8/17/2008 4:41:14 PM

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"7-Series Mini-cooper"

Thats like saying "LS Yarolla" or "LS Camry"
But then again, the LS does resemble an oversized Camry inside and out.

tkindred - 8/17/2008 12:11:35 PM

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Star - 8/17/2008 12:13:27 PM

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Bla, bla, bla...bla, bla, bla...

silver1 - 8/17/2008 1:10:01 PM

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0to60 - 8/17/2008 7:51:54 PM

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Actually most, if not all of the features mentioned on this car can be found on other cars. So Im confused why its a marvel. If this really impresses you so called car fanatics, I would really challenge you to step outside your BMW box and explore other brands. U might be surprised what you find out. I do find that they have taken these features and improved them. But these features are still ot full original and are now expected on cars in this class.

qweasdzxc - 8/17/2008 12:18:10 PM

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Star - 8/17/2008 12:21:59 PM

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Yawn...

EnnNorak - 8/17/2008 12:42:22 PM

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BMWnumber1 - 8/17/2008 1:28:54 PM

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Wow, this new 7 series is awesome. I always knew BMW was at the forefront of technology, but this 7 series is light years ahead of the competition. I was kinda leaning towards the MB S class but after seeing and reading about the new 7 series I am sold on it. The interior of the new 7 series makes the S class look like a model T.

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cdoke - 8/17/2008 1:32:38 PMView My AgentSpace

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I have been watching this thread with some curiosity. I recall the ambivalence that was inherent in the thread when the new 7-series was introduced. It appears that now there is firm resolve on this issue, for everyone seems to agree with but a few poster's views. Then again, perhaps I am wrong and something else is going on.

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cdoke - 8/17/2008 2:54:47 PMView My AgentSpace

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LOL.

Accuso te peccati- asinus asinum fricat.

tkindred - 8/17/2008 2:26:53 PM

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Funny how I was deboosted for stating the facts about this car not being a "technological marvel". Using terms like this shows an obvious bias for a brand. That's all. The Tesla,Porsche 959, Nissan GTR, etc, were "technological marvels" not this. It is a fine car but let's not exaggerate.

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tkindred - 8/17/2008 2:29:03 PM

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OK, it is a matter of opinion. But please tell me what ground breaking technology is in this car that hasn't been used before?

QuantumMatrix - 8/17/2008 2:31:48 PM

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I think the proper statement would be "The new 7 series is the first auto maker to sucessfully incorporate all these technologies into ONE beautiful machine".

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tkindred - 8/17/2008 2:45:25 PM

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Ok, that is sounding better. :-)

QuantumMatrix - 8/17/2008 3:03:48 PM

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Oh God, here comes Staar and all of his BMW bashing.

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theoptimisticpessimist - 8/17/2008 4:24:09 PM

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Staar comments = 100% TRASH

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QuantumMatrix - 8/17/2008 4:31:20 PM

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I am inclined to agree with you on that theoptimisticpessimist.

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audirevolution - 8/17/2008 4:54:13 PM

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Staar is just Silver1 with a different username.
Both are trash.

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mscottc1 - 8/18/2008 9:44:24 AM

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AND michaeltaylor. they all are the same.

g2ok - 8/17/2008 5:02:44 PM

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What I like about some older BMW's are the fact they are well balanced driving vehicles with controls that were simple. After having an Acura with all the techno options, I have to say all those things can ruin an otherwise nice car. I think people should ask for the 7-class of autos without the gadgets. I just want have fun going from point A to B. The controls on some economy vehicles like the Corolla are nice and simple.

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Agent63 - 8/17/2008 6:06:09 PMView My AgentSpace

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MT,

You're troll-like behaviors are never ending are they?. You think Lexus is a technological marvel don't you? I think Mercedes paved the way for all luxury cars up to the present day. BMW has had some good technologies implemented in their cars as well, so has Lexus. You give no credit to other companies. Toyota isn't the greatest in the world just because they are #1. Keep in mind they are first and foremost an eco-brand. I don't know why some view BMW as an eco brand because the Big 3 of Germany are all used as cabs there but it doesn't dull the image of any of them.

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eric113 - 8/17/2008 8:40:19 PM

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@agent63

they're just overreacting to the idiot Star who goes around and trash non-german cars especially japs.

_43LE - 8/17/2008 6:34:38 PM

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It doesn't matter how much technology is in this car, it still looks boring.

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EL34 - 8/17/2008 6:36:10 PM

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The mighty new BMW 7-Series makes the Lexus LS460 look like a trash can.

:-\

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silver1 - 8/17/2008 8:53:59 PM

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ErichHartmann - 8/18/2008 2:47:30 AM

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If the BMW 7 series was cheaper than the Lexus LS, then chances are most Americans would go for the BMW.

America - 8/18/2008 6:49:07 PM

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silver, here is the answer for you: The New 7 Series.

DrFill2009 - 8/17/2008 6:44:35 PM

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If the trash can was a can of WHUPASS!
While better than it's predecessor, it is no E38, as is mentioned in the article.
And it's style is comfortably behind the 460.
Dig the big turbo engine!
DrFill

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uhn2000 - 8/17/2008 6:52:22 PM

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OMG just sick. I love the 7 series more and more. BMW is going for the kill with this one!!

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ThierryHenry14 - 8/17/2008 7:10:31 PM

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Lots of haters here. I guess the new 7er is really worrying lots of fanboys...

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silver1 - 8/17/2008 8:56:46 PM

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_43LE - 8/17/2008 9:25:42 PM

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I waaay prefer the S-class and A8. Partly now because of blind BMW fanboys. They've left a real sour taste on this site. That's too bad as I actually like BMWs. In fact, I actually owned a while back.

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agent507 - 8/18/2008 3:52:31 AM

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The good thing about this deboosting button is that you don´t have to scroll so much to read the interesting comments, because the comments of "silver" and "Homer" and "Staars" and other friends of the moron convention are not visible any more after -15. Ha Ha. Good thing autospies!

Can you reduce that to -10 please? It would save us all a lot of time.

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B7FAN - 8/18/2008 8:13:39 AM

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This cars shape doesnt do it for me in the pictures I have been seeing the past 2 months or so. But it just doesnt do it for me...Maybe I need to see it in person people say they changed their minds when they seen it in person. I am a BMW fan and I love their cars M5 hint...hint...you cant base the LS460 to the new 7 until their is a comparison test....period....or in that case any of the big boys. I dont even care about a comparison test with lex,merc,and BMW but what i would like to see is Lexus,BMW,AUDI go after mercedes CL which is the hottest big coupe ever made by a luxury car company. None of the other 3 dont have a car that would match up with the CL. I love BMW's but if I had the money I would get that Mercedes CL over anything Audi,BMW,and Lexus makes

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350zdon17 - 8/18/2008 10:24:13 AM

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who cares about these features the car is ugly...Give me a S class, the Technology in that is more than the averager person needs...and sooner or later the Benz will have something better again

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huu76 - 8/18/2008 10:47:55 AM

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I only skimmed through the article but where's the technological marvel?

4-wheel steering, been done back in the 80s.
Nightvision, Cadillac beat them.

Most of the hot-air was about how Bangle screwed BMW so they promoted him so he can do less harm (but of course won't admit steeling him from Fiat was a big mistake).

Its good to see there's barely any Bangle in this car.

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QuantumMatrix - 8/18/2008 11:27:40 AM

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huu76, how many of those technological marvels you do quickly dismiss on the BMW 7 series have been incorporated into one vehicle? Futhermore, how many of those marvels are even used by the other makers now.

Audiphile - 8/18/2008 12:57:02 PM

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I'll reserve judgement on the new 7-series until I see it in the flesh ... er, metal.

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huu76 - 8/18/2008 1:55:08 PM

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QuantumMatrix,
LS600hL.

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huu76 - 8/18/2008 1:58:28 PM

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At high speeds, the stress on the rear wheels when all 4 tires turn the same way (some call it crab steering) sounds more like an accident waiting to happen.

4 wheel steering will also require getting used to. Chevy dropped their 4wheel steering trucks because nobody wanted it (too awkward).

Nissan-Toyota tried it in the 80s and had the same issues.

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QuantumMatrix - 8/18/2008 2:28:52 PM

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But you see huu76, you are speaking about Japaneses and American companies that give up the first time something doesn't work for them.

Everyone trashed BMW for the idrive, but did they give up, did sales suffer, NO... They perservered until perfection.

BMW, often imitated, but never duplicated...

sector - 8/18/2008 10:04:00 PM

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Oh yeah, sure... BMW is all about "continuous income stream" i.e. Lease Deals.

I'm glad other makes are not in line to duplicate BMW's ways.

bmwman1963 - 8/18/2008 6:41:32 PMView My AgentSpace

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And we have a Newbie... Gee, I wonder who this sound like????

MMMMMM.... Wonder who it could be...

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Star - 8/18/2008 7:21:10 PM

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