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BMW wins 2008 engine of the year prize
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BMW wins 2008 engine of the year prize
BMW has been named the outright winner of the International Engine of the Year awards for a record-breaking fourth year in succession.
A global panel of judges awarded the top honor to the carmaker’s 3.0L twin-turbo straight six petrol engine.
The 300hp powerplant is found in a number of BMW models ranging from the compact 1-series up to the X6 xDrive35i crossover and was picked becuase of its flexibility and mix of performance and fuel-economy.
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kthor
- 5/7/2008 1:48:33 PM
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DOMINATION.
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- 5/7/2008 2:19:57 PM
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[Quote]
Judged by a panel of 65 renowned motoring journalists from 32 countries as disparate as the USA, Japan, China, Russia, New Zealand, India, Korea, Germany, France, Romania, South Africa, Mexico and the UK, the Awards highlight and acknowledge engine engineering excellence.
Judges apply their impressions from driving today's latest cars to help them find the powerplants that offer the best driveability, performance, economy, and refinement, and reward manufacturers for the successful application of advanced engine technology.[/Quote]
Congratulations to BMW and VW too!
1.0-liter to 1.4-liter category
Results points
1.Volkswagen 1.4-litre TSI Twincharger-340
2. Volkswagen 1.4-litre TSI 170
3. Fiat 1.4-litre Turbo (Bravo) 165
4. Fiat-GM Diesel 1.3-litre 157
5. Honda Hybrid 1.3-litre IMA (Civic) 103
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1.8-liter to 2-liter category
Results points
1. Volkswagen/Audi 2-litre Turbo FSI (A3, A4 Cabrio, A6, TT, Eos, Jetta, Golf GTi, Škoda Octavia, Seat Altea, Leon) 256
2. BMW Diesel 2-litre Twin Turbo (123d) 254
3. Subaru Diesel 2-litre flat four Turbo (Outback) 196
4. Mitsubishi 2-litre four-cylinder Turbo (Evo X) 105
5. Honda 2-litre four-cylinder i-VTEC (Civic Type R) 97
6. Honda 2-litre four-cylinder (S2000 (Europe/Asia))
abcd
- 5/7/2008 4:23:29 PM
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"motoring journalists"
journalists? I was thinking that best engines are choose by some engineers or engine experts . democracy isn`t the best system when it comes to engines choosing .
1995e34
- 5/7/2008 8:12:17 PM
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i'm a mechanical engineer, specializing in thermodynamics. the journalists made the right choice. thanks for asking.
AE86
- 5/7/2008 9:02:59 PM
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Also a mechanical engineer. I would take that hybrid off the list!
kthor
- 5/7/2008 1:51:09 PM
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Other BMW class wins year:
International Engine of the Year Awards 2008 Winners:
International Engine of the Year 2008
BMW 3-litre Twin-Turbo (135, 335, X6)
Best New Engine of 2008
BMW 2-litre Diesel Twin-Turbo (123d)
1.4-litre to 1.8-litre
BMW-PSA 1.6-litre Turbo (MINI Cooper S, Clubman, Peugeot 207, 308)
2.5-litre to 3-litre
BMW 3-litre Twin-Turbo (135, 335, X6)
3-litre to 4-litre
BMW 4-litre V8 (M3)
Above 4-litre
BMW 5-litre V10 (M5, M6)
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macker83
- 5/7/2008 10:45:17 PM
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u seem a little bit biased the big man! the best engine should be the one in the Nissan GTR
BimmerFan
- 5/7/2008 1:58:49 PM
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Was there ever really any doubt???
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GermanNut
- 5/7/2008 2:14:52 PM
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Too bad the handling of BMWs still SUCKS compares to Porsche.
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nicecars
- 5/7/2008 2:55:49 PM
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I thought this was an engine award and not handling. Maybe I read something different.
M53R
- 5/7/2008 3:04:19 PM
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Too bad you are a sore hater that wont appreciate innovation.
Or
Too bad Porsche dont have half the technology BMWs have.
Or
Get lost.
1995e34
- 5/7/2008 8:16:55 PM
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if the bmw handled like a porsche, it wouldn't be a very practical car. porsche makes sports cars. bmw makes sporty passenger cars.
i can assure you when bmw again produces a mid engined sports car, it's handling will be VERY competitive in comparison to a porsche.
bmw must be flattered by their constant comparison to sports cars.
GermanNut
- 5/7/2008 2:15:15 PM
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The true handling and chassis masters are Porsche, not BMW.
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SHOWTIME
- 5/7/2008 2:40:07 PM
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Dude, BMW makes 4 door cars that can fit 5 people comfortablly and keep up with high end porsches on the track...anyone can make a small sports car perform well.
ThierryHenry14
- 5/7/2008 5:45:42 PM
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that may be a stretch there, keeping up with high end porsches...
They'll keep up with certain porsches, but high end, give me a break...
SHOWTIME
- 5/7/2008 10:38:58 PM
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What I ment was porsches like Carrera and 911 Turbo...to me they're pretty high end compared to Cayman and Boxter...i wasn't referring to Carrera GT and GT2.
Lamborghini_vs_Ferrari_Racer
- 5/7/2008 2:21:19 PM
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But Porsche failed to make an engine Rev soo hard or win awards at the show ?
Who cares - They are all german and amazing !
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gsh23
- 5/7/2008 3:00:35 PM
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hard to be impressed when one look at the e90 forums shows that the twin turbo straight six likes to fail a lot, mostly due to HPFP. isnt there a recall for that? not impressed...
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gsh23
- 5/7/2008 4:08:32 PM
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besides, best performance engine award went to the 3.6L turbo. go porsche!
enthusiastx11
- 5/8/2008 12:53:28 AM
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i have one. i drive it incredibly hard. not a single problem with mine, thank you very much.
i LOVE, LOVE, LOVE it!
enthusiastx11
- 5/8/2008 12:54:35 AM
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oh, and since consumer reports matters SO MUCH to your ilk, you'll note that all 3-series are RECOMMENDED by them.
S4cabriofoxone
- 5/8/2008 9:10:12 AM
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It is good to know that most people who join car enthusiast forums in the first place join because they have been experiencing problems. You will always find that on ANY forum.
M53R
- 5/7/2008 3:05:59 PM
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Congratulations for BMW. Truly deserved awards.
Oh and I so told you guys the M3's V8 was gonna win something. ;)
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atomicbri
- 5/7/2008 3:45:44 PM
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No surprises here. This motor is excellent and is the best motor in this class of car, period.
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Htay7500
- 5/7/2008 6:42:51 PM
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Im not suprised either, congrats!
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huu76
- 5/7/2008 6:43:03 PM
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showtime,
How many seats do the X6, 3coupe and Z4 have?
I notice that BMW needs larger displacements or turbochargers to make any progress. Sounds very American. Oh well, as long as the Americans keep the oil flowing, the Germans should be OK.
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enthusiastx11
- 5/8/2008 12:57:33 AM
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are you talking about lexus?
BMW routinely squeezes 100hp or more per liter out of it's engines.
for example, the M3 and ISF make the same hp...but the BMW does it with 4.0liters and the lexus takes 5.0liters.
likewise, the 3.0liter twin-turbo pull 100hp per liter, as does the V10 in the M5 and M6.
you're confused as usual.
S4cabriofoxone
- 5/8/2008 9:12:43 AM
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Don't even reply to this imbecile any more. It's a waste of your computer's energy.
FactsRule
- 5/8/2008 10:29:51 AM
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And same for you to Huu76, you and your lexus fanboi club are trying very hard to duplicate the M3 and 335i coupe but can't quite manage to do it.
I guess the oil must keep flowing for you too and your gas guzzler jeep.
BMW offers some of the most efficient engines in the world for the power that they produce. Lexus will probably start putting turbos on some of their so called performance cars in order to compete.
Write this down so you don't forget it when it actually comes true.
cdoke
- 5/7/2008 8:24:36 PM
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Frankly, I would take such far more seriously were it judged by those who are qualified to judge the technical merits of an engine - I.e. Engineers as opposed to a bunch of know nothing journalists. No offense meant to present company, but I have known some journalists and they are generally the worst kind of stupid.
Perhaps a professional body would come to the same conclusion, I don't know. It is the disease of our times - everyone thinks it is their prerogative to give their opinion on everything.
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cdoke
- 5/7/2008 8:32:45 PM
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This could be a good thing for Autospies to arrange - poll a bunch of car enthusiasts who belong to SAE or ASME on their top picks.
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AE86
- 5/7/2008 9:03:59 PM
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Because their are sooo many Autospies readers who are engineers who belong to the SAE...
auto001
- 5/7/2008 9:23:19 PM
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So what kind of Rolexes did BMW handout this year? Submariner? Daytona? Seriously, these "judges" don't have a clue. Honda built about 20 million VTECs, not a single failure... that's an engine!
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91z4me
- 5/8/2008 9:40:08 AM
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Do you honestly believe that not 1 engine failed? Come on no matter how good the product's design, engineering, or production at least 1 will fail when you reach that high of a production number.
Kinger
- 5/8/2008 11:31:01 AM
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There have been plenty of vtec failures, a simple google search confirms that!
enthusiastx11
- 5/8/2008 12:59:00 AM
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such a wonderful engine. i smile every time i get behind the wheel of my 335i.
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cdoke
- 5/8/2008 1:14:24 AM
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Ae36,
I am not talking about ASME and SAE members on autospies you twit. I am talking about autospies being more proactive and taking the initiative to do an appropriate anysis that is somewhat free of a fundamental problem.
Otherwise it is just some retard with a degree in journalism lecturing you in engineering. Although I will say that I think that they should ask SAE members to nominate an engine with the winner being decided by a panel of -important word- experts. I suggest this because 001 seems to be rather keen on making this site all it can be.
I hope this ends up in the right place : it is difficult to tell on this infernal Blackberry.
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Larry
- 5/8/2008 6:08:30 AM
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I am not surprised Volkswagen did not win more awards for the engines they supply those dubious Audi, Seat and Skoda brand cars.
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S4cabriofoxone
- 5/8/2008 9:06:36 AM
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?
They win quite a few every year. This year would have been no different if BMW hadn't come out with so many new engines. All of Audi and VW's new engines came out from 2005-2007.
evilm
- 5/8/2008 7:25:22 AM
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Highly suspect list. It would seem the list was picked by Eurotrash . BMW makes nice mootors but they are kind of gutless. So are the honda motors. VTEC is a joke!!
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enthusiastx11
- 5/8/2008 9:57:14 AM
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are you fore real?
mclaren428
- 5/8/2008 12:04:24 PM
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First off I can tell your an idiot because you cant write. BMW engines are gutless compared to what?
evilm
- 5/8/2008 10:45:24 AM
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Oh Yeah , I'm for real. I just tell it like it is.
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1BadMan
- 5/8/2008 7:20:01 PM
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Hats off to ya BMW. Well done! And to Porsche as well with the 3.6 Liter Flat 6 engine. Keep it up.
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huu76
- 5/8/2008 7:29:53 PM
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factsrule,
Really, not that hp matters, it's just a formula.
LS460 4.6L = 380hp, BMW 750i 4.8L = 360hp.
BMW 328i 3.0L = 230hp (77hp/L) vs IS350 3.5L 300hp (85hp/L) vs turbo charged 335i 3.0L @ 100hp/L. You can see what happens when BMW can't turbocharge.
True, the M3 may have higher HP, but the IS-F destroys it in torque.
1993-2002 Toyota Supra 3.0L beauty.
220hp, 210ft.lb
280hp, 318ft.lb
320hp, 315ft.lb and 0-60 in 4.6sec
Gee, that would make the Supra 106hp/L.
Did I mention this was 10+ years ago when BMW was still playing around with anemic 1.6L engines?
BMW's best engine was the 3.2L E46 M3's. The E39 M5's was good too.
Unfortunately Toyota hasn't felt the need to make a V10 yet, but the IS-F's torque is nearly just as high as the M5's.
The big daddy of HP/L would probably be the new GT-R though. 124hp/L.
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S4cabriofoxone
- 5/8/2008 10:49:40 PM
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"LS460 4.6L = 380hp, BMW 750i 4.8L = 360hp."
I KNEW YOU WOULD DO THIS! Cheap shot. That is BMW's least efficient engine.
Why the hell are you comparing the 328i to the IS350? It competes with the IS250.
2.5L = 204hp - 81.6hp/L
It must be noted that BMW can easily get more than 230hp from the 328i's engine. The same 3.0L inline six is sold with 260hp in Europe in n/a form.
I can twist numbers too:
Lexus LX570
5.7L = 380hp = 66.67hp/L
Lexus GX470
4.7L = 270hp = 57.4hp/L (LOL)
Lexus IS-F vs. BMW M3
5.0L = 416hp = 83.2hp/L
4.0L = 420hp = 105hp/L
BMW 335i vs. Lexus SC430
3.0L = 300hp = 100hp/L
4.3L = 288hp = 67hp/L
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