Bugatti Veyron is dethroned, in steps the SSC Aero TT

The Veyron is still BY FAR the best car in the world.

— SevorbeupstryIsBack (View Profile)

Posted on 9/14/2007 10:39:28 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

Seems to me the Veyron was designed and built to be over-the-top in every conceivable way. This car was simply built to be over-the-top in top end speed and ugly looks. They dont have much to brag about IMO.

— Threepoint1415926 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/14/2007 12:20:38 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 5   

I bet it handles like crap. I would much rather have the Veyron.

— YZFracer23 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/14/2007 1:08:42 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

America puts Europe in its place as usual.

Maybe the Veyron needs a 33 1/2 cylinder diesel.

Veyron = fat Beetle.

— huu76 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/14/2007 1:27:46 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -5   

Have you seen the Veyron in real life? Let alone sat inside of it? Have you touched the fine leather or bouchonné trim? Have you listened to its Burmester soundsystem? HAVE YOU FELT ITS POWER?

I think not.

Now be quiet.

— SevorbeupstryIsBack (View Profile)

Posted on 9/14/2007 2:44:04 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

I said be quiet.

— SevorbeupstryIsBack (View Profile)

Posted on 9/14/2007 6:19:17 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4   

Close but no cigar.

The pheonomenal MacLaren F1 was a work of art for all time. However it was not the be all end all of vehicles. The aerodynamic factors that allowed it to reach those speeds were quite good. However saying a F1 handles...well in comparison to what because honestly that car loves to step its tail out at even low speeds. There are disadvantages to being too light when you start pushing the upper ranges of speed.

The other thing was you were correct that Piech wanted the specific car that he wanted and refused to compromise. He should be congratulated on that. Look at the Nardo concept then look at the F1 and the CCX and Lambo and the Vector M12, etc...they all are basically the same shape...a flying wedge of cheese.

To actually say to engineers and the bean counters that you want to make this balistic refigerator beat everything on the planet on a daily basis and drive like a GT("DAMN the price")...well that takes some cohones. So they come up with a design that has not been regurgitated from the old countach design like everyone else. Mind you I dont mind driving a cool piece of Parmesan down the road but if I were to park it next to piece of Romano, it would be lost in the crowd.

Now if I showed up in a brick of chocolate...

All in all the Areo TT should be congratulated for breaking 255mph. Thats one hell of a feat.

Personally I would rather take a Veyron because of its looks and GT charateristcs (you kidney's and lower back feel like hell after riding in a Ferrari for more than 30 min)...but hey that just my taste in vehicles...thats why we have so many to choose from.


(on a side note) I wonder why the Bugatti recieves so much hate from people since the F1 from what I can remember never was hated becuase it was the fastest production road car in the world

— Spectator (View Profile)

Posted on 9/14/2007 3:57:39 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

The McLaren F1's creator Gordon Murray said that the main goal for the F1 wasn't topspeed but pure handling and driver involvement.

He also said on paper the Veyron is a bit of a silly attempt, in other words it's too heavy or has too much this or that... BUT he drove it and was stunned.

Here is the article by the way:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=7&article_id=3075


Now apart from its looks (which look very Bugatti to me and nothing else) it is an engineering marvel. This SSC Aero supercharged turbo or whatever isn't. Not even close. From an engineering point of view it is the best car ever.

— SevorbeupstryIsBack (View Profile)

Posted on 9/14/2007 4:05:35 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

I actually like the looks - kind of like the XJ220.

— Cynical (View Profile)

Posted on 9/14/2007 4:58:58 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

The SSC is just made to go "Ha Ha" to Bugatti, but Bugatti was made to please the customer and make him/her say "Whoa, I'm in the fastest car in the world."

— Carboy (View Profile)

Posted on 9/14/2007 8:02:36 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

That car looks like something from the nineties.

— LexSucks (View Profile)

Posted on 9/14/2007 9:03:13 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Records are made to be broken, big deal. I'm american and I don't understand the statement of "putting Europe in its place". What's that suppose to mean. One day we're all going to realize that we're all in this together.

I'm sure in the next few years someone will come out and beat the SSC's topspeed, but the magnificent Veyron was first. You can't take that away from them, and it will always be a legend regardless of what "made to order" kit car comes out and beats it by 2 mph's.

— golfer38 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/15/2007 10:24:02 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

Everybody can make a car go fast. Just make a lightweight chassis with a carbon/fiberglass body and a big American V8 with some turbos with 6 speed transmission from the viper with long gears. Then do some windtunnel testing et voila!

honestly, the veyron is in a totally different league here. it has no competitors.

— SevorbeupstryIsBack (View Profile)

Posted on 9/15/2007 12:53:47 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Ive seen videos of 400+ Km/h Toyota Supras at bonneville....Everything with good Aerodynamics and 1300+ HP can potentially do it. But can they handle that power in such a way as the Veyron ? Uhm...what do you think...nothing beats a Veyron overall.

As a pure adrenaline kicking driving machine, id have the F1 hands down. The engine sound in the F1 is mind blowing alone...

— alfistiDK (View Profile)

Posted on 9/15/2007 1:24:27 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

still I think the Bugatti Veyron is the best car
no American shelby crap

— pchera01 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/15/2007 7:23:14 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4   

The Veyrons ace in the whole is for a car to be useable and approachable with that kind of HP. The Veyron can make up for bad driving with its numerous safety systems. IMO I still put the Mclaren F1 in much higher regard for its purity and ability to do 240 mph with only 627 hp. And as for American crap the Hennesy Viper decimates the Veyron in every performance category for much less money.

— germeezy2 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/16/2007 4:52:31 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

And I agree to sign off on the design of a car before the engineering brief is done is down right ludicrous.

— germeezy2 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/16/2007 8:25:59 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

America is on the records books as being #1, it beat the Veryon's "unofficial" record so the Veyron couldn't even reproduce it's best performance.

Guess the Germans are all sitting in their basements trying to think of another way to convince everyone they're better than a bunch of truck driving hicks, truck driving hicks that can beat them in just about everything that is (except swan diving a.k.a. soccer)

But as I said before, Europeans talk it, Americans prove it.

— huu76 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/17/2007 1:29:11 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Looks like crap but this thing matches the S7 TT's 230mph.
http://www.spacemart.com/reports/Japan_Creates_The_Worlds_Fastest_Electric_Sedan.html

And it's electric (the world must be coming to an end).

100yen per 100km. That's about $1/100km.
http://www.thinktheearth.net/thinkdaily/news/news-detail-349.shtml

— huu76 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/17/2007 1:38:21 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Autounion (Audi) had 400 Km/h racecars back in the 30´s (read up on how the director died at almost 240 mph on public roads..) ...what does that prove ? Nothing else than good aerodynamics and huge supercharged engines. The fact that you are ignoring all posts and just continue to ramble shows your point..

— alfistiDK (View Profile)

Posted on 9/17/2007 5:27:49 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

I'll take a Veyron...

— ThierryHenry14 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/17/2007 9:48:09 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Those deboosting me cause they dont believe the 400 kmh autounion from 1937 look here...

http://www.motorpasion.com/2007/02/16-el-auto-union-type-c-streamline-otra-joya-de-ingolstadt

— alfistiDK (View Profile)

Posted on 9/17/2007 10:24:57 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

He is right those Auto Union cars were beasts! One question what if the production cars never went that fast would anyone call the factory. Would they say I want my money back I was on the freeway today and I could only get it to 249? =)

— germeezy2 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/17/2007 10:48:18 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

don't forget the Merc Silver Arrows doing 271mph in 1930s.

— ThierryHenry14 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/18/2007 2:59:04 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1