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Can You Guess The Hottest Sellers Last Month? The October Surprise Is One's A Lincoln!

Agent001 submitted on 11/13/2008 Official Bell & Ross Timestamp: 2:40:44 PM

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The latest list of hottest sellers from JD Power & Associates has the list of usual suspects but we found two real surprises on the list for October.

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Hottest Models

1. Toyota Prius
2. Audi R8
3. Honda Fit
4. Mini Cooper
5. Audi A5/S5
6. Toyota Corolla
7. Scion xD
8. Toyota Yaris
9. Lincoln MKS
10. Dodge Challenger
11. BMW X6

The huge surprise to me is the Lincoln MKS but it makes sense when you learn what car was traded to get it...The Lincoln Town Car.

63% of the buyers were over 56 and 72.9% were male.

They put an average down payment of 2400 bucks and the average payment on the car is $600 balloons.

$600! Man, you could be in a 5-Series, A6 or Benz for that.

Well, for those enjoy this new ride, we have one thing to say...VIVA VIAGRA! ;)

Can You Guess The Hottest Sellers Last Month? The October Surprise Is One's A Lincoln!

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The Lincoln MKS is a fabulous car and it is good to know it is well received. Hopefully everything goes alright for FOMOCO
— jt716 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/13/2008 3:15:22 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 9

I've had bad experience with Lincoln rental cars. Poor interior finishing especially. The doors don't seem to close solidly.
— Agent63 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/13/2008 5:49:19 PM | | Votes: -7

Are you nuts, Agent63? We have a 2001 Lincoln Navigator at 93,000 miles and it runs like new. I prefer Lincoln to Cadillac due to practicality, comfort, and price. I've been in a 2001 and 2005 Lincoln Navigator, a Lincoln LS, and a Town Car. I've also been in a Cadillac Escalade, Cadillac DTS, and Cadillac SRX. I find that Lincoln tranmissions seem to know when to shift and the Cadillac tranmissions don't shift as well. You may think Cadillac is better, but Lincoln has got a lot of potential.
— Carboy (View Profile)

Posted on 11/13/2008 7:15:51 PM | | Votes: 4

I think I've counted about 15 MKS's in one day. Suddenly every other car is an MKS here in Detroit. Over the last 5 years It went from Cadillacs everywhere, to Mercedes E350s, and finally Lincoln MKSs. All these had one thing in common when I would see a bunch on the roads. Cheap leases. I'm not saying it's a bad thing though. I guess it's a good way to bring back customers that were once lost. Hopefully they will like the car enough to keep coming back.

Carboy, I had a Lincoln LS V8 back in 2000. It was a nice looking car, but the transmission gave up at about 50k miles and one window motor died three times. I haven't had a Ford since then. This new MKS looks like it will do a lot better though. Ford has really changed within the last 5 years. It started with the Fusion and since then they have been making better quality cars and finally more appealing cars like the MKS. The only thing missing is RWD. However, it looks like it is so well crafted that I would not mind the AWD. As for the Cadillac transmissions, my CTSs transmission is very smooth and it responds really nicely. Try one of the newer Cadillacs with a 6 speed.
— bigTYME (View Profile)

Posted on 11/14/2008 1:04:53 AM | | Votes: 3

I was actually talking about the 2008 Cadillac Escalade, but is that new enough for you? I have to admit the power of the car is impressive, but it seems to downshift and upshift for no reason at least twice during our rental period of five days. It was also a bargin to rent because Hertz apparently made a computer error and it was only $90 a week! I've also been an Escalade Platium in GM's Auto Show in Motion in Foxboro, MA sometime in 2005. I found the tranmission was good, but it was the hard sporsts suspension. I never really liked Cadillac's idea of no Captains chairs aka no center console for second row unlike Navigator, and the fact it doesn't use a independent rear suspension, thus no leg room. One thing I have to say though, is that it wins in Pop Culture. Don't take it the wrong way, I wouldn't mind a Cadillac, but somehow, I'm a Lincoln man.
— Carboy (View Profile)

Posted on 11/14/2008 10:01:44 PM | | Votes: 3

I agree with you on the captain seats with no floor console in the rear. I had a 2007 Yukon and I swear whoever sat back there needed to buckle up. If I'd make a turn a little fast the person in the back seat, with no seat belt, would fall off the seat. As for the transmission in that it was really smooth, but that was the 4 speed. Never really had any problems with that. Maybe I should try one of the new Lincolns.
— bigTYME (View Profile)

Posted on 11/18/2008 7:52:09 PM | | Votes: 2

001, I don't know, can you still get an 5er or A6 for $600/mo. with all the new lease changes?
— BondMI6 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/13/2008 3:28:50 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2

Leftover 08's with $2,500 down...yes

001
— Agent001 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/13/2008 4:00:21 PM | | Votes: 1

The Lincoln MKS is a solid car.

However, 001, I think your take on it is incorrect.

I read the same article (think it was in the WSJ but I don't remember) but I don't think it listed the hottest sellers (the Audi R8 is a 'hottest' seller?) but instead listed the cars with the lowest days in inventory (so either low volume cars that are artificially hard to get [i.e. the Audi R8 or the BMW X6] or truly popular cars [i.e the Prius or the Fit]) but perhaps not the ones that sold the most.
— nybimmer (View Profile)

Posted on 11/13/2008 3:31:05 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

They are the cars moving off dealer lots the fastest...not the volume leaders.

Correct

001
— Agent001 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/13/2008 3:59:21 PM | | Votes: 4

Was this from the Wall St. Journal? I read this article this morning in the paper.

It read "R8***", meaning small sample size. That went for the X6 as well.
— AudiNewEngland (View Profile)

Posted on 11/13/2008 4:08:24 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

We told you it would be hot!

001
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Posted on 11/13/2008 4:23:12 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

Recently shopped BMW 5 & 7 Series, Jaguar XF, Mercedes E Class and Audi A6/S6. The XF, by far, had the worst finish, the cheapest dashboard, the worst seats and looks that would not have been out of place on an up-market Mazda. We decided on the E63 AMG. Although it's due to be replaced very soon and although it doesn't handle as well as the 550i, it was by the best car overall. The XF was at the bottom of our list; for that matter, we ultimately didn't even think it was worth considering. Saying all this because I have to agree with TheSailor.

— 204E60 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/13/2008 11:36:58 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Why did you not compare it to the M5?

Why 550 instead?

001
— Agent001 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/13/2008 11:41:48 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

the X6 is one stand-out car. you will sense its presence if its near by. no one can walk by without looking at it twice or starring at it.
— KZ258 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/14/2008 12:30:31 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Sailor is referring to the BMW X6... not the Jaguar XF.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 11/14/2008 12:39:30 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

WAGONS WAGONS WAGONS WAGONS WAGONS ad nauseum....EVERYONE has done the SUV wagon shape. It is fcuking awesome that BMW has the cojones to do something different and in my opinion extraordinarily special. If you want a tall wagon there are hundreds if not thousands of variations. If you want a very focused part of the SUV experience and incredible driving dynamics and distinctively sporty design now you at least have a CHOICE.

— America (View Profile)

Posted on 11/21/2008 1:10:17 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Want me to go ask the guy that parks his outside my office, its in white. The X6 that is.

the new MKS is a nice looking car and the appointments are very nice as well. Just looks good all around and the front and rear are very clean yet distinctly lincoln.
— Whelan (View Profile)

Posted on 11/13/2008 4:26:38 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

Yep the Lincoln MKS is a real winner despite people’s predictions.
To be honest, the concept disappointed me, but when I saw the production model, I was blown away. The car has very tight tolerances and looks like Mercedes Level for Fit, finish and craftsmanship.
This car would have much better as a rear drive platform. Lincoln should have used the small 4.4L V8 from The Lincoln LS and Thunderbird platform.

Front drive does not make for good Luxury or performance attributes. This car is extremely nice, but certainly not of Flagship status. Ford V8s are very quite, smooth and powerful and perhaps would have been much more suitable. Diesel might have also been a good thought.

Cadillac is planning to go rear drive to compete with BMW and the Euros. Ford seems to be playing it safe by marketing sophisticated soccer moms these days. Yes, I know 70% MKS sales went to men, but Diesel Rear-drive is more of a business man's car.
— mercuryguy (View Profile)

Posted on 11/13/2008 4:29:08 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

As much as I like Ford, I think the Seville STS with Northstar V8 would be a better choice, even though the Seville is front-drive. The Seville is a sturdy car that is well respected and gained quite a loyal following.
— mercuryguy (View Profile)

Posted on 11/13/2008 4:32:29 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -3

the current generation STS is rear wheel drive. the only fwd left is the Deville aka DTS and the srx.
— 85bmw745i (View Profile)

Posted on 11/13/2008 6:43:38 PM | | Votes: -1

I still plan to wait for the MKt instead.

I don't really price a car by the monthly payment, I try to get the best deal on the total purchase price.
— mercuryguy (View Profile)

Posted on 11/13/2008 4:37:00 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

Surprising to see the X6 up there. I just got an FX35 and love it. In Montreal, the FX35/50 is sold out until March.
— cheechitup88 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/13/2008 5:10:28 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

I have seen all of 1 new FX on the road.

The EX is also a flop. Probably because it trades gas mileage for speed, but it's also ridiculously cramped, with zero rear legroom and a tiny trunk.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 11/13/2008 10:44:42 PM | | Votes: 3

Thank God for David Bowie covers.
— adamsaf723 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/13/2008 8:19:17 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

I find it so strange that the A5/S5 is outselling the A6. I guess people really buy off looks. If Audi allocated more to the US it would improve their bottom line dramatically.

I'm also really surprised at the MKS... not about the R8, though. I would be surprised if a dealer could keep one in stock for more than a day.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 11/13/2008 10:43:45 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

The A5/S5 and Passat were the winners at the 2008 Detroit show in my book. Probably highest on my list in the 8 years I've attended the show. I liked the Q Big Wagon as well.
— mercuryguy (View Profile)

Posted on 11/13/2008 11:31:06 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

Seemed like the A5 was a ton of car for $50 Grand. A large 2-door with a real back seat.

The Bentleys were also nice.
— mercuryguy (View Profile)

Posted on 11/13/2008 11:32:56 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

001 Viva Viagra indeed. loool I like that.
— Designer1 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/14/2008 1:51:14 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

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