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China IS COMING and Why Detroit Should Be Worried
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China IS COMING and Why Detroit Should Be Worried
If turnabout is fair play, the Motor City players pouring billions into the booming Chinese market should get set for metal from the Middle Kingdom.
In an auto show press event more akin to diplomatic ceremony than industry unveiling, more a geopolitical statement than one of business strategy, China's Changfeng Group took the wraps off a few not-so-special SUVs Monday and issued a clear statement -- it wants to enter the U.S. market, preferably with an American partner.
Yes, be it a $25,000 Liebao CS6 SUV or a Feibao CT5 pickup from Changfeng, a $10,000 sedan from Geely or a tiny car from Chrysler made by Chery, the Chinese are coming.
The challenge they pose is a new low-cost standard they could set, provided their cars, SUVs and pickups meet the quality expectations of American consumers awash in world-class choices -- from Detroit, Japan, South Korea, Germany, Sweden, the United Kingdom.
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07mcs
- 1/9/2007 4:49:22 PM
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Korean auto makers should worry, not the american automakers. their cars will attract buyers from Hyundai, Daewoo
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huu76
- 1/9/2007 5:04:38 PM
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Everyone needs to worry somewhat. There's nothing stopping them from reverse-engineering a $15,000 Corvette.
There'll always be wannabes who will buy them and rebadge them as the real thing.
Look at the SUV, it's already got a Lexus badge pretty much and we've already seen Porsche's emblem ripped off.
Personally, if corporate America wasn't so greedy, they'd just block the sale of these things and China couldn't do anything about it. Basically say, when China respects intellectual property, then the rest of the world will treat it like something else other than a nation of slaves. But that's just my opinion.
That's why I stand by my statement, we need a good war.
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kart1
- 1/9/2007 9:32:37 PM
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I sure don't want to go over 150+ in a 15k car.
Lexus
- 1/9/2007 6:40:03 PM
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Yeah definitely, it mimic Lexus "L" logo for sure, it look really like Lexus logo from afar.
Lexus
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IS3andME
- 1/9/2007 7:30:56 PM
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Just like the Lexus lugo looks like the Mercedes emblem from afar. They did that on purpose. And not too long ago, the engine covers of the LS mimiced the engine covers of the Merc.
Just being a devils advocate....but the Chinese cars are crap, and they know it...If the cars are soo good, why aren't they selling a boat load of them in China, why is it Buick, Audi, etc.
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silverarrow2
- 1/9/2007 7:47:49 PM
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True!
no1listensanyway
- 1/9/2007 7:53:41 PM
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The American manufacturers are not losing any sleep over the chinese. They have a long way to go.
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cohwang
- 1/10/2007 2:53:34 AM
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Remember we had the same debate back to 1980s and 1990s when Japanese and Korean cars came to the land. I don't believe American doesn't learn a lesson from there and is still thinking there is a long way for the Chinese to go. Although Japanese took 20 years to invade the market and the Korean took 10 years to settle down, Chinese only needs 5 years to kick you out. The key thing are they legally borrowing or buying main technologies from the German and "illegally" copying stuff from Japanese. This way could rapidly increase their quality and lower the cost.
Detroit big 3, wake up! There is no more Amercian dream!
Designer1
- 1/9/2007 8:00:25 PM
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Actually the American manufacturers are losing sleep over everyone, even Korean, so yet China is another future nightmare to them. Since China will base its technology on the Korean, no matter how bad they make it will still be better than the big 3. Actually we shouldn't call them big 3 anymore? I prosume, junk 3.
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kart1
- 1/9/2007 9:34:20 PM
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Doesnt the Liebao CS6 SUV look like a 4 runner from the front. If the Chinese manufacturers want respect they need to stop making knock offs.
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huu76
- 1/9/2007 10:20:14 PM
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An large SUV for under $20K, they don't need respect, just enough ppl who only care about saving a buck.
The Chinese buy foreign cars because the ones who can afford to have "Korea" syndrome and will only buy imports to show they're better than everyone else. Those who can barely afford a car will buy the domestic deathtraps.
It doesn't surprise me that the Germans are more than happy to sell Chinese made cars and rebadge them as Dodge's (or whatever).
Pretty soon, Toyota/Honda will be the major local employers in N.American auto industry.
How does the Lexus L look like the MB Star, it's not even a hood ornament? Maybe Chrysler star perhaps.
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S4cabriofoxone
- 1/9/2007 11:32:04 PM
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I think the logo looks like someone took a large bite out of a chunk of Swiss cheese, and it ended up in an "L" shape.
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JUGNU
- 1/10/2007 3:55:16 AM
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Chineese are not even forgiving the logo of the other cars.They r copying that too.
But i am waiting,how far will they go with that.
JUGNU
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Yonder7
- 1/10/2007 12:19:02 PM
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JA ja ja ...That is Globalization: Big Manufacturers Moving the company to china and then no body will have money to buy cars because all of you are unemployee. LOL. We have to stop this now. Or get ready for the next war. Chinese people needs to stop copying and If they want to do do something, should be legaly. Open Market is a good Idea but only the Rich people will take advantage of that but this will bring to the world a colapse. A lot of Cheap products but no budy will have money to buy those but China. What You think that is going to happen? We have to rule China, or suspend all kind of business with them if they are not willing to respect the pattents of anywhere.
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SteveL
- 1/10/2007 12:51:26 PM
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If any body buys a care that is made in China then that just shows there an idiot! So if a lot of people start buying made in China cars then that will show how many stupid people there are and America will need to worry about that!
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XYZZ
- 1/11/2007 3:48:44 AM
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well, go to your local walmart, and scope out the HUNDREDS, if not THOUSANDS of your fellow americans who are "idiots" by your definition.
Yonder7
- 1/10/2007 1:48:20 PM
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I am worry already.....do I have to explain why? some body said the same thing about Korean cars few years ago..so there is a good reason to be worry right now. Amaerica will not be able to compite with manufacturers that 150.00$ monthly to each worker inother country. And that means that Japanese, Gemans, Italians, French and English should also be worried.
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philippz
- 1/11/2007 2:55:41 PM
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I was in Hong Kong recently and amazingly there aren't any mainland Chinese cars for sale there and you don't see any on the road! So if they can't even get into Hong Kong yet it will be quite a while until they come into the US.
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huu76
- 1/12/2007 12:21:46 AM
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There are only 3 things that I know of not made in China at Walmart. Motor Oil (refined in Canada), wiper blades and shampoo.
China's achilles heel is that if America stops buying, they stop working. Unemployed workers tend to topple gov'ts and they know it. China already has 900 million peasants who are losing patience. 87,000 protests last year is hardly the "harmonious society" that slave labour was supposed to bring.
btw, the 300C factory in China that was supposed to build 200,000 cars for domestic consumption already has excess capacity. Yeah, China's the next great market alright (only stupid ppl will believe this).
They can have the textile and low end jobs. The hi-tech/manufacturing ones should stay here. We're not only sending jobs, we're building them car plants that can easily be retooled for tanks etc. Johnny Walmart doesn't care though.
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