Corvette ZR1 could beat GT-R’s 7:29 Nurburgring run

omarrana submitted on 05/02/2008 Official AutoSpies Timestamp: 2:38 PM
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Corvette ZR1 could beat GT-R’s 7:29 Nurburgring run

While Nissan is out flaunting its new 7:29 run at the Nurburgring Nordschleife with the GT-R, Chevrolet is working hard to beat that time. Last week GM announced the official specs on the 2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 with 638-hp and 604 lb-ft of torque. It later released a video of the car hitting a top speed of 205-mph.

According to InsideLine, GT-R’s happy moment will pretty short lived. In an interview with Corvette’s Chief Engineer Tadge Juechter, the man behind the ZR1 stated that the full production model will be capable of lapping the Nurburgring in... Read Article

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njshift - 5/2/2008 3:20:03 PM

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OWNED

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njshift - 5/2/2008 3:20:53 PM

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wait

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gooch - 5/2/2008 3:21:17 PM

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Cue the fanboy war. For all of the GT-R's technical achievement and monstrous performance, I think I'd still go with the ZR1. I mean, I would have to look at the thing.

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GTR35 - 5/2/2008 3:24:07 PMView My AgentSpace

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if it does than it's going to be an awesome machine...but lets not forget that the GTR-SpecV is coming out in a year, and in the latest tests it's been clocked at the low 7:20s.

Cant wait to hear someone break the 7:10s!

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S30GTR - 5/2/2008 4:02:42 PM

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I'M WITH YOU 35.

_43LE - 5/2/2008 4:40:32 PM

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Maybe the rumored evo version will be able to do that.

Need4Speed - 5/3/2008 5:25:37 PM

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really, where did you see or read low 7:20s?

S4cabriofoxone - 5/5/2008 6:18:26 PMView My AgentSpace

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I mean, it's a pretty obvious deduction.

Shredmo - 5/2/2008 3:24:47 PM

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Both great cars, IMO. Look at the bang for the buck.

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1fstmach - 5/2/2008 3:29:05 PMView My AgentSpace

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love how GM is in the bench racing business now

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montyz81 - 5/2/2008 3:30:29 PM

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The ZR-1 is the high end performance version of the Vette right? If so then it should be matched against the V-spec version. That is a better apples to apples comparison. Also, I agree with Shredmo, I gotta believe the GT-R is a better bang for the buck. I would still go for the GT-R. Its relatively mild supercar appearance makes it somewhat of a stealth in my opinion. Vette/Porsche owners who have not been paying attention to the GT-R wont know what hit them.

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Porschinator - 5/5/2008 1:06:31 PM

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Wish Vettes offered AWD. Rumored to come in the next Gen.

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1evlaudi - 5/2/2008 3:39:12 PMView My AgentSpace

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i sure hope so because i am fed up with that Nissan stuff

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Lexus - 5/2/2008 4:01:00 PM

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I belief it when they do a official test with an official lap number. And even if they manage to do so, how much will it cost? well over $100k for sure.

And don't forget the Nissan GT-R V-Spec which is rumor to have close to 700hp and 300lbs lighter than the standard model.

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91z4me - 5/4/2008 12:01:15 AM

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Rumors mean nothing. The ZR1 may outrun it, it may not. Lets not discredit either car, both are terrific performers. And I don't think either car will have trouble selling out at whatever price they are offered at, $100k or not.

And I don't think there are any "Official" numbers published on the GT-R that I have seen. Much less the ZR1 (given that it isn't even in production yet).

KZ258 - 5/2/2008 4:10:22 PM

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i doubt the corvette will beat the GT-R. this is just hype for the corvette

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Batman219 - 5/2/2008 4:13:14 PM

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Whether the GT-R gets beaten or not, the Vette will look a million times better runnin' the Ring.

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Lexus - 5/2/2008 4:19:06 PM

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If the Corvette beat the GT-R, it will also beat the Porsche GT-2, Lambo, and all the other supercars in the market.

But I seriously doubted if it will beat the Nissan GT-R, especially the Nissan GT-R V-Spec. Which is Rumor to have close to 700 hp which way is more than this corvette at 638 hp.

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Need4Speed - 5/3/2008 5:28:05 PM

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What the hell...do you really need attention that bad?

Agent63 - 5/4/2008 5:20:27 PMView My AgentSpace

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Lol attention he won't get by owning a Lexus (ops deboost me now?)

Numbers are just numbers really. It's the soul, craftsmanship, & heritage of a car that makes it what it is.

Kraut_god - 5/5/2008 9:02:22 AM

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soul craftsmanship in a chevy? LOL

JUGNU - 5/2/2008 4:49:51 PMView My AgentSpace

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I think ZR1 with over 600BHP and light weight meterials therfore more expenisve car, seems more like a GT-R V Spec competitor. But i still think it will be very hard for the ZR1 to beat the 480BHP regular GT-R's lap time.

JUGNU

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91z4me - 5/4/2008 12:02:50 AM

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Well, lets remember the ZR1 weighs a few hundred pounds less than the 'base' GT-R. But only time will tell.

BMW4me4ever - 5/2/2008 4:50:53 PMView My AgentSpace

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I dont think it will. The GTR has too good of balance. Even though I dont care for the looks of the car, the GTR is too well balanced and the Awd with the DCT transmission are almost too perfect to be bested by a more powerful sled like RWD vehicle.

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njshift - 5/3/2008 3:59:00 PM

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The GT-R has more electronic driver-aids and is not nearly as raw as the ZR-1.

utahnkid - 5/2/2008 4:51:04 PM

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Huge fan of the ZR-1.. But if the GT-R can beat a GT3, a car built specifically for the track. Then it, along with a lot of other very capable super-cars, are going to have a really hard time.

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JCH335i - 5/2/2008 5:13:36 PM

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Ok this "Nissuhn" bullshit is starting to piss me off. Why doesn't porsche just throw its new 7 speed DCT into a GT3, turbo charge that mother and end this shit. Goddamn

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KZ258 - 5/2/2008 5:29:34 PM

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you should write a letter to porsche asking that

bmwdrvr - 5/2/2008 9:17:27 PM

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well minus the transmission you have all that you asked for in a GT2....ive never seen a test of the GT2, and the GTR

S30GTR - 5/2/2008 10:01:55 PM

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THINK ABOUT IT MAN. TURBOCHARGING A ALREADY RACE READY CAR DOESN'T NECESSARYLY MEAN IT'S GONNA BE FASTER OR MORE POWERFUL. IT TAKES A LOT OF WORK AND EFFORT TO DO THIS. THAT MEANS A TOTALLY NEW ENGINE. THIS MAY TAKE YEARS TO FINALIZE. AS FOR THE TRANS. GOOD LUCK.

golfer38 - 5/3/2008 12:49:49 PMView My AgentSpace

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Yeah, Bmwdrvr already said it...your "fresh" idea is called a GT2.

utahnkid - 5/6/2008 12:44:14 AM

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Sorry. Nissan already dominated it:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119569

mini22 - 5/2/2008 5:34:19 PM

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So we hear that Porsche is going to a Haldex clutch system for it's AWD cars.That along with the 7 speed DCT should help Porsche make up some ground on the GTR. Of course it would be the turbo that would have to get it. The new NA S has 385HP so not enough to make up lost time on the GTR.

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PlanB - 5/2/2008 5:40:38 PM

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No offense to GM for trying to break the Nissan record(gotta love the competition), but do they realize they're comparing their top of the line, tuned and then tuned up some more - sports car to a "base" model? When Nissan breaks out the SpecV, what will they do then?

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njshift - 5/3/2008 4:01:30 PM

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GM will be counting their profits from every Vette they make while Nissan will be loosing money just trying to compete.

91z4me - 5/4/2008 12:06:02 AM

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GM isn't comparing anything. We are comparing things.

To GM and to most of the people who will actually be buying these things this really doesn't matter. I seriously doubt anyone thinking of buying a ZR1 is teetering between it and the GT-R. And a slightly better lap time on 1 track isn't going to sway to many people.

Htay7500 - 5/2/2008 6:48:44 PM

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I say good luck to chevy. both amazing cars!!!!!

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mpls - 5/2/2008 7:22:27 PM

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With all that power in that corvette, do they have all the necessary electronics to keep it on the road and round corners and bends..

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pushrod27 - 5/2/2008 7:55:42 PM

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No... that's where a talented DRIVER would come in. Of course the GT-R is ridiculously easy to drive fast. It's designed by and for Asian drivers, who (along with other bad drivers) need and expect 'necessary electronics to keep it on the road'

bmwdrvr - 5/2/2008 9:15:07 PM

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the Z06 doesnt have problem im sure a Corvette this expensive wont either....when a 70,000 american car becomes one of the cars to beat among cars 2-3 times its price i think its time to put away the doubt as to whether Chevy can build a world class car seriously

S30GTR - 5/2/2008 10:09:53 PM

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this one goes for u pushrod. if a bad driver is driving this car to a spectacular lap time. think about what an expert would do for this car. he would simply destroy you're pussyrod. so pray that an expert does't drive it. ok.

91z4me - 5/4/2008 12:07:28 AM

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S30GTR,

I would say that a Nissan test driver is going to drive this thing about as well as anyone out there.

S30GTR - 5/4/2008 7:45:10 PM

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91z4me,

prove it.

91z4me - 5/5/2008 2:00:31 PM

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S30GTR, I think you just proved the point that you know nothing.

S30GTR - 5/5/2008 10:54:50 PM

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try me.

PerformanceGuy - 5/2/2008 8:19:45 PM

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I still think the GT-R will edge it out, and even if it doesn't the Spec-V will kill it. In my opinion, the GT-R still reigns supreme!

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S30GTR - 5/2/2008 9:49:15 PM

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by the time any car manufacurer can catch up to the GTR. NISSAN will already be working on the R36 GTR.BY THE WAY, THIS GOES TO ALL THOSE WHO THINK THAT THE GTR IS WHAT IT IS BECAUSE OF ITS ELECTRONICS, THINK AGAIN. LAST TIME I CHECKED ALMAST ALL CAR MANUFACTURERS HAVE SIMILAR ELECTRONICS AND NISSAN ONLY PERFECTED THEM. SO DON'T GIVE ME THAT CRAP.

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91z4me - 5/4/2008 12:08:54 AM

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Stop being a fanboy and realize that NOTHING is ever perfected, the GT-R isn't the end all as NO car is the end all.

S30GTR - 5/4/2008 7:43:04 PM

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as of right now it is.

gooch - 5/5/2008 8:55:18 AM

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Posts like this only make me dislike fanboys even more. You act like you have stock in Nissan or worse, you don't like to think that any other car can run with your hallowed GT-R. That is so 13 years old.
True enthusiasts can appreciate all cars, no matter their origin, for what they can do.

chewy - 5/3/2008 2:31:23 AMView My AgentSpace

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All of the latest claimed times from manufacturers are pointless in comparisons to old 'Ring times. Race car drivers, non of the street cars and so on.

I will wait for a thrid party (most likely a European magazine) with a 'Ring shootout.

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_43LE - 5/5/2008 10:38:35 AM

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Why would you trust more a European review rather than one from North America or Asia? Do you feel that they are they less biased?

S4cabriofoxone - 5/5/2008 9:24:55 PMView My AgentSpace

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No... He feels that they (Germans) live with the Nürburgring and know best how to navigate it.

_43LE - 5/5/2008 11:42:28 PM

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Hmm, that's interesting. I would like to see what a German could do with the GT-R, seeing as the results so far have come from Nissan people that probably do not know it as well as the Germans. Maybe the time would be even better, who knows? ;)

farabira1 - 5/3/2008 5:04:21 AM

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A sports car costing over 100,000 dollars, the ZR1, boasting about the fact that their car can beat the time lap of a car costing only 70 thousand dollars: the Nissan GTR. Wow, atleast someone is indirectly implying that the 70 thousand dollar GTR is even more worthy of competition than other car's in the 100 thousand dollar bracket (remember Chevy said ZR1 will do better than GTR, they did not even mention GT3, or 997 turbo).

Anyway, the V spec will destroy any time that the ZR1 may set up, because the ZR1 is targeting 7:29, And the V spec being 300 lb lighter and more powerful than the standard GTR which clocks at 7:29, will easily outdo this time. Sorry Corvette, better luck next time, the crown of the ultimate sports car is rest on the laurel of Nissan GTR for a while.

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njshift - 5/3/2008 4:04:02 PM

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farabira1 = Bench Racer

gooch - 5/5/2008 8:56:31 AM

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And where are you getting this information from?

Bmw8ter - 5/3/2008 10:30:54 AM

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Yea, the GTR V-spec will own the ZR1 just like the Lexus LF-A has already owned all other autos, on the 'Ring'.....how about we wait till some hard evidence materializes.

The GTR has created an equally annoying fanboy to the Lexus nuts.

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S30GTR - 5/3/2008 1:42:46 PM

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nissan and godzilla have had fans for a long time, they just haven't been hear to anoy you. besides you sound as anoying as we do.

amazinBimmer - 5/3/2008 11:00:35 AM

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who woudl ever buy the Zr1.. are there any bald, fat guys who appreciate interior plastic left out there? god, you guys are a joke on the roads.. we cant wait to pull alongside you and watch your bald heads turn and look at us with envy. of course its a fast car.. but then.. we aint bald.. go figure..

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1evlaudi - 5/3/2008 11:53:37 AMView My AgentSpace

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and annoyingBimmer, what are you doing here? bashing anything that is not a BMW ?
Does that make you feel better?
Do you have some sort of complex of inferiority? Is that why you drive a BMW? Does that make you feel better? Tell me more.
I see everyday a lot of fat, short, old and ugly people pulling into the BMW driveway, and a lot of princesses of all ages.
Is that why they drive BMW? to make themselves feel better.
Tell me how you feel about that?

auto001 - 5/3/2008 3:25:28 PM

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Sorry to break it to you but that's their nature :) they're full of hate, as evidenced by how they drive on public roads...

SouthBayM5 - 5/6/2008 7:28:34 PM

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You are making your fellow beemer fans look bad. The corvette is an amazing machine, not something I would want to drive on the road everyday, but an amazing machine nonetheless (especially on a track). The price for performance ratio is staggering.

1evlaudi - 5/3/2008 11:48:45 AMView My AgentSpace

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here is something really cool:
http://www.automobilemag.com/features/news/0805_2008_dodge_challenger_SRT8_vanishing_point_one_lap/index.html

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amazinBimmer - 5/3/2008 6:53:12 PM

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i guarantee you that
a) I am better looking and fitter than you

b) BMW drivers on average are better looking and less fat thatn Corvette drivers

c) Corvette drivers are almost all invariably "hoosiers" or rednecks that actaully believe buying something madein in america helps this country.. tragic.

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91z4me - 5/4/2008 12:11:16 AM

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What an arrogant, snob you are! Why are you trying to prove the negative connotations of BMW drivers right?

lexusrox123 - 5/5/2008 6:04:48 PM

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i doubt that the corvette, like just about every other "american" car, is built in america. they make fords, chevies, dodges, etc. in canada or mexico.

S4cabriofoxone - 5/5/2008 9:26:07 PMView My AgentSpace

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You must have a lot of friends.

BlackLight - 5/3/2008 11:31:06 PM

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Will the ZR1 be available at the same time as the Volt?
Talk is cheap...

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91z4me - 5/4/2008 12:12:16 AM

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The ZR1 will be entering production in a couple of months. The Volt is on its ORIGINAL time table, and is undergoing a variety of testing as we speak.

Agent63 - 5/4/2008 4:19:17 AMView My AgentSpace

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Both are cool looking cars. The Corvette gives more of a raw driving experience whereas the GT-R driver is sheltered with lots of technology.

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Need4Speed - 5/8/2008 9:08:42 AM

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In this day and age of advanced technology...is it a suprise that it has become a means to an end to which the performance envelope has reached its physical limits. As they say...gone are the good 'ol days.

I95SPEEDINGTICKETS - 5/4/2008 3:22:17 PM

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Oh My Goodness !!!

All this waffle over some claim.

"UNTIL THE EFFING ZR1 DOES THE FASTER LAP ALL THE GTR IS THE BETTER OF THE TWO"

END OF STORY

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lexusrox123 - 5/5/2008 6:06:12 PM

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THANK YOU! jeez...

I95SPEEDINGTICKETS - 5/4/2008 3:23:55 PM

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HOT NEWS

" I95SPEEDINGTICKETS CLAIMS HE COULD BE THE NEXT UK PRIME MINISTER "

Thats about how useful the article above is

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amazinBimmer - 5/5/2008 11:13:06 AM

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no it doesnt.. evil. i pose every bmw which kicks the holy crap out of every comparable Audi "quattro" (also known as a marketing ploy for not being able to afford a rWd platform!!)

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S4cabriofoxone - 5/5/2008 9:27:25 PMView My AgentSpace

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Not being able to afford? Since when? Last I knew, any company that made $1+ billion in profits could do whatever the hell they wanted. Apparently they did a poll and it would alienate their core customers who need the all-weather drivability of FWD.

henbmw - 5/8/2008 10:25:23 AM

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With 620+hp, it probably should...

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