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Corvette could get Haldex AWD system
nformation revealed yesterday in a UAW document outlined GM’s plans to install a dual-clutch gearbox in the C7 Corvette and now we have reports that it might feature an AWD system as well. GM and Sweden’s Haldex have developed a new performance AWD system called XWD that debuted in the facelifted Saab 9-3. The AWD system features an electronic differential and can send up to 85% of torque to an individual wheel to prevent slippage, whether it’s from a fast corner or when trying to put power to the ground. Read Article



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dumpstydumpsty - 10/3/2007 11:41:12 AM
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If a future Corvette does get AWD, then the mid-engine version is not completely dead.

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CarboyCarboy - 10/3/2007 11:51:01 AMView My AgentSpace
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I don't want a mid engine Corvette and I don't want a AWD System. It's not a Corvette unless it has the same layout as every generation. Front Engine, Rear Wheel Drive.

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rg12345rg12345 - 10/3/2007 11:54:47 AM
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How old are you? 80?
If they end up with a better car, what is your problem? I doubt they will produce something worse!


Wake up grandpa, science goes on, with or without you ...


dumpstydumpsty - 10/3/2007 12:01:57 PM
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Geez, can the Corvette ever grow up? It is an established American sports car, now GM has the chance to make it a solid global supercar.

Heck, the RWD can still be updated/upgraded, but an AWD, mid-engine varient would definite flex the General's muscles on a supercar, $150k base price level, with limited availability of course.


ShredmoShredmo - 10/3/2007 12:49:34 PM
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I think offering a "C4 version" would make sense, but they need the regular RWD model as well. The Vette traditionally is a modest price tag and relatively crude overall layout. It is a no compromises entry level sports car.

This reminds me of the mid 80's when it was rumored that the Probe was the next generation Mustang. Controversial then, but look where we are today.


Threepoint1415926Threepoint1415926 - 10/3/2007 5:20:22 PM
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I agree that to have a rwd and awd layout as optional would be the best thing for the brand. Further, I believe the mid-front engine is not out the window as of yet. This solution gives pretty good performance gains and doesnt alienate the grandpas of above.


EnnNorakEnnNorak - 10/4/2007 2:17:06 AM
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rg12345, It's no use getting a cheap AWD ssytem. The best AWD systems would have a couple of Torsen differentials. If I can't get a good AWD sytem like the one used in the Audi A6 and A8 and the Subaru WRX STI, then I would rather have RWD with LSD.
I have no desire to get an AWD system that leaves me stranded if an entire side of the vehicle is on glare ice.


MeanVulcanMeanVulcan - 10/3/2007 12:15:47 PM
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The world is waking up to the superior driving machine that is the R8 and they only see one way to get anywhere close... AWD.

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zorbeezezorbeeze - 10/3/2007 1:17:07 PM
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You need both RWD and AWD. In no way should it be AWD only.
A mid engine AWD Vette would really be something. But then again the layout is not what's hampering the Vette. The speed and handling are far superior than those of cars which cost twice as much, including the R8. The styling and cheep interior is what keeps this car down.

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EnnNorakEnnNorak - 10/4/2007 2:20:57 AM
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Yes, the system should normally be in the RWD mode with AWD activated only when slippery conditions exist. I want all 4 wheels giving traction because I live in a cold winter climate but I can get by with RWD and LSD.


IS3andMEIS3andME - 10/3/2007 2:10:55 PM
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Teh Corvette will be RWD, Corvette fans are just as faithful, if not more so than Porsche 911 fans. And remember RG12345, that the 911 engine is in the wrong place, and the engineers know this, because they would not have made the 911 GT-1 as a mid engine car, or the Carrera GT, which was a stillborn Le Mans racers as mid-engine. (11 fans want the car to stay mid-engine, and Corvette fans want the vette to stay front engine. And what do they know? I guess Ferrari needs to stop make front engine cars as well, huh?

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PorschinatorPorschinator - 10/3/2007 2:33:09 PM
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Currently the Z06 beats the Porsche 911 Turbo and GT3 on tracks in various reputable mags! I barely believe it. The ZR1 or ZO7 is going to be sick! GM is doing a great job and not getting too old school with the heritage thing and thinking globally. AWD will be an option.

Toyota and many other auto companies do not tie themselves down with heritage and just build better cars

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PorschinatorPorschinator - 10/3/2007 2:35:29 PM
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BTW Car and Driver track test has the Z06 beat the R8. I believe in last months issue.

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TheSailorTheSailor - 10/3/2007 2:41:19 PMView My AgentSpace
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What the?!? Talk about selling out! If Lutz and his partners in crime go through with this, there will be nothing left of what made the Corvette special! How about making the engine a V12 while they are at it? And maybe they could make their logo a prancing Lama or something!

Things that define the Corvette:

RWD
Pushrod V8
Engine in front

These are the things people think of when they hear "Corvette"! I got myself an issue of MotorTrend in Vancouver Airport where they mentioned that it was rumored that the C7 will have an engine derived from the next gen. Northstar... Making it mid engined with AWD and DOHC would just make it a discount Ferrari! Sure AWD would give it better handling (So would using modern suspension instead of that prehistoric rear suspension), sure a midengined design would make it easier to make an optimal weight distribution (though 49/51 is pretty much spot on) and sure a DOHC engine would make it more powerful and efficient (but it would also make it sound like a german, italian or japanese car not an american muscle car)... But it would take away the soul (uhh... I used the forbidden word) and the most of the heritage! It just wouldn't be a Corvette! Make it into that Cadillac they showcased a few years ago, but please don't do it to the Corvette!

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Autoegr525Autoegr525 - 10/3/2007 8:56:22 PM
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A Corvette that can't rip shots? never.

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S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 10/4/2007 1:43:33 AMView My AgentSpace
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Wow, it's starting to sound like an Audi A3. Haldex and DSG. Weird.

Whoever said that RWD is inherently superior to all AWD systems should be shot. The R8 and 997 AWD variants prove you wrong.

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Bmw8terBmw8ter - 10/4/2007 9:53:19 PM
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Just a little information for anyone wondering about all of the different 4WD variations....very informative.

http://www.autozine.org/technical_school/traction/tech_traction_4wd_2.htm



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truckmentruckmen - 10/9/2007 1:34:38 AM
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Sounds logical to use AWD with all that HP.

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