DETROIT AUTO SHOW- 001 shows you exclusive video of the new Lexus IS-F

Agent001 submitted on 01/13/2007 Official AutoSpies Timestamp: 11:41 AM
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DETROIT AUTO SHOW- 001 shows you exclusive video of the new Lexus IS-F

Much of the development of the new IS-F took place at Fuji Speedway and the Higashi-Fuji Technical Center in Japan. The IS-F is based on the proven rear-wheel-drive Lexus IS, which is equipped with a double-wishbone front and multi-link rear suspension. As well as the IS performs, Lexus engineers demanded much more of the all-new IS-F. The result is a performance tuned 5.0-liter V8 engine, topped with specially engineered heads fed by a two-stage intake system, that produces 400-plus horsepower and more than 350 ft.-lbs. of torque. The all-new IS-F is equipped with engine-oil and transmission-fluid coolers for high-speed performance and a cylinder head-scavenging oil pump for high g-force driving.

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Lexus IS-F Video

The IS-F engine is mated to the world's first eight-speed direct sport-shift transmission. A new torque-converter lock-up control was developed that allows for a direct, crisp gear change through the constant lock-up of the torque converter in second through eighth gears. In Drive mode, the IS-F transmission performs with great smoothness, and the torque converter allows for great launch ability for fast standing-start acceleration that will register a zero-to-60 time in less than 4.9 seconds.

This unique transmission also features an advanced Manual mode. A pair of paddles located within a fingertip's reach behind the steering wheel enables the driver to make ultra-fast up-shift gear changes within a tenth of a second. Downshifts are accompanied by automated and incredibly precise throttle blips to match engine RPM to vehicle speed.

The impressive acceleration achieved by the IS-F requires it be equipped with heavy-duty Brembo brakes designed to the specifications of the Lexus engineering team. Huge, 14.2-inch cross-drilled front discs are gripped by rigid, powerful six-piston aluminum calipers, while 13.6-inch rear cross-drilled discs feature two-piston calipers. High-friction brake pads are equipped on all four wheels. The brakes are finished with the Lexus name displayed on the calipers, a first for a Lexus production vehicle.

The IS-F features custom-designed 19-inch forged alloy wheels as standard. The wheels were built to Lexus specifications by BBS and are surrounded by high-performance sport tires.

The attention to performance also extends to a modified suspension that lowers the entire car by more than a half-inch when compared to the base IS, and one full inch when compared to IS models equipped with 18-inch wheels. This specially modified suspension allows for an exciting and energetic drive, whether on a race track or the streets.

The IS-F features an all-new three-mode version of Lexus' Vehicle Dynamics Integrated Management (VDIM) system. In addition to the Normal mode, the new VDIM features a Sport mode that allows the driver to push the car even further before its braking-, throttle- and steering-control systems kick in. The third VDIM system mode is Off, which allows the driver to push the IS-F to its ultimate level of handling performance.

The attention to performance is complemented by modified styling cues that differentiate the IS-F from the standard IS. Lexus engineers provided the IS-F with a dual-exhaust system and quad-tail pipes, wider front fenders, and a larger grille and rear spoiler. Both the hood and lower intake were enlarged to accommodate and cool the V8 engine.

Like the exterior, the interior of the IS-F receives unique styling with aluminized composite trim and special surface treatments. The instrument panel includes an oil-temperature gauge and shift indicator-lights, while the "F" logo is showcased on the steering wheel and rear-center console.

In addition to the usual Lexus standards of comfort and convenience, the interior of the IS-F features specially shaped and trimmed seats, which hold the driver comfortably and securely in place. The special sport seats are available in black or a unique high-contrast white and black trim.

"The intent of creating the IS-F was not to be a competitor to other performance-sport sedans," said Carter. "Rather, the goal was to create a true performance sedan in a uniquely Lexus way-one that is totally authentic with a unique interpretation of raw driving thrill at all speeds and provides a whole new definition of 'usable power.'"

The IS-F will arrive at Lexus dealerships in early 2008.

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lexuslife - 1/13/2007 12:23:22 PM

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this car is beast also very nice

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golfer38 - 1/15/2007 11:43:36 AMView My AgentSpace

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This car is ugly beast.

AUDBMLEXMRC - 1/13/2007 1:03:43 PM

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More i look at it more think it's nice. Let's it comes to the market we will see how is it!

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EL34 - 1/13/2007 2:33:46 PM

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I love sauerkraut and whenever I go to my favorite restaurant "Gustav's Jagerhaus" I always order it.

I do go to a very good Japanese restaurant called "Taiko", but I'm sorry the only sushi I order is the Caliornia rolls with plenty of wasabi.

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AE86 - 1/13/2007 3:33:19 PM

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Anybody else notice how many new screen names Will has?

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indifferent - 1/13/2007 1:47:22 PM

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as a 4 door, does it really compete with the M3? if anything, isnt its main compition the M5

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EL34 - 1/13/2007 3:42:37 PM

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Lexus1, are those scoops behind the front wheels fucntional or are they like fancy drapes in a nice home?

TauronB2G - 1/13/2007 8:33:38 PM

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I'm interested in riding in one of the 8 speed cars. Our Mercedes has the 7 speed and I haven't gotten confused or anything when shifting manually. Hell its actually kind of fun. For me it lets me feel the revs more in each gear. I haven't made a top speed run ...yet... but I am looking forward to seeing how it'll run when I do.
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golfer38 - 1/15/2007 11:50:48 AMView My AgentSpace

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I think we all need to stop responding to the Lexus 1 nonsensical babble.

BMW_DRVR - 1/15/2007 1:37:59 PM

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Why do all the idiots support Lexus? That dosen't say alot for you if you are a lexus fan.

TimE - 1/13/2007 2:37:10 PM

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indifferent:

M3 will also come in a sedan version! First M3 coupe, then M3 cabrio, and after that M3 sedan.

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EL34 - 1/13/2007 2:40:22 PM

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Agent001 is right this Lexus is aggressive and sinister looking, but I don't want that in my car.

I have been playing guitar for decades, ever since I was 5 years old and I like the traditional looking guitars like the Fender Stratocaster and Telecaster as well as the Gibson Les Paul and ES335, but there are guitar companies like Ibanez and BC Rich that make guitars that look like satan himself designed them and the only guitar players that play them are the hideous detuned death metal loops.

I prefer Stevie Ray Vaughan.

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SupraNeverBack - 1/13/2007 3:14:14 PM

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You got to admit it. The more you look at it, the more you like it. It will grow on you (maybe slowly) if you still don't like it at this moment.

If you want the coming M3 looks as aggressive, you better run over the M3 threads to complain. Don't give the wrong signal to BMW, otherwise, you will see what you don't want to see for the coming M3. ^0^

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S4cabriofoxone - 1/13/2007 3:22:33 PMView My AgentSpace

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For those who still question BMW's sport sedan dominance, edmunds' Inside Line summed it up perfectly in an IS350 vs. 330i comparison test:

"And when we reminded ourselves that the true mission of a sport sedan is to provide enjoyment derived from driving, not quoting performance numbers to your buddies or convincing whomever which is the better deal, it always came back to the BMW."

I couldn't have said it better.

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S4cabriofoxone - 1/13/2007 3:23:02 PMView My AgentSpace

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Forgot to mention- and the RS4's sport sedan dominance.

SupraNeverBack - 1/13/2007 3:27:46 PM

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4,000lb is belong to A8 class.

EL34 - 1/13/2007 3:40:57 PM

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Lexus1, the BMW is not enjoyable?

You sound like the Lexus saleperson I talked to the other day when I told him I was interested in the LS460 and the S-Class. A8 and 750iL and he said the LS460 blows the Merc, Audi and BMW out of the water in every way.

I looked at him with and dismissed him and walked away.

S4cabriofoxone - 1/13/2007 3:42:45 PMView My AgentSpace

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Lexus1, you are so... ahh, there's no word to describe it. Will, you have to say- this guy (probably one of the Lexus lovers who were kicked off) is the logical for your team.

"THE LEXUS PROVIDES ENJOYMENT AND RELIABILITY. THE BMW IS NOT EVEN ENJOYABLE."

HaLOL! #1: The IS-F hasn't been driven yet, and I doubt you've driven it, so how do you know it's enjoyable? I can't disprove it, but you can't prove it yet, either.

#2: I bet only about 5% of people buying a care in this class care about reliability at all. That's a really dumb argument- with a sport sedan, there's sacrifices to be made, and enthusiasts are more than ready for that.

#3: I don't think there's ever been a BMW, in the last decade, that wasn't enjoyable to drive.

Magjuan - 1/13/2007 3:23:42 PM

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Yes, as with anything 'to each his own' and we definitely don't see anyone crossgin party lines on this site...all BMW or all Lexus...Audi etc.

In the most commented thread in the history of this great site I did say that this car does look a little tacked on HOWEVER, I admit that it comes across slightly better in the video.

Not flip-flopping but after 'studying' the video and IF the car can deliver the "less than 4.9" stats then I WILL take one in charcoal. One caveat is that this might be the first time a factory tuned car will be taken to the shop to "de-tune" those exhaust pipes and that grill.

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S4cabriofoxone - 1/13/2007 3:44:44 PMView My AgentSpace

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Well, for most of the German fans, it's just that- we're German car fans. There are a few diehard BMW enthusiasts on this site, and a few Audi lovers, but it's basically Germany vs. Lexus, and a few scattered Infiniti fanboys. There's also blueice- the only Acura fan, for reasons that are beyond my comprehension -who seems to have been kicked off.

EL34 - 1/13/2007 3:45:21 PM

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I prefer the tradtional look of the Ferrari anyday over the speacship look of the Lamborghini and the IS-F has that spaceship look.

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SupraNeverBack - 1/13/2007 3:50:37 PM

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That is fine. Not everyone like the same thing.

EL34 - 1/13/2007 3:49:45 PM

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001, you say the IS-f is 400hp, and I say big deal the Viper has 600hp and Veyron has a 1000hp.

Lexus is just copting what the Germans have been doing for years.

In my book, originality is everything.

Why doesn't Lexus stick to what hey know best and that's selling Corolla's.

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EL34 - 1/13/2007 4:33:16 PM

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Wrong, Lexus is Toyota, just like Lincoln is Ford.

Lexus could bring out a version of the Corolla and probally will.

lexuslife - 1/13/2007 5:14:27 PM

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EL34 you out of track now I guess your silly jokes are OVER

mitchatlexusofmarin - 1/13/2007 7:01:55 PM

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EL34.You are really beginning to sound like an idiot. I love BMW and I love Lexus (and MBZ and Audi)but you are just a fool.And why must you post about 15 times per topic? Do you know how annoying that is?

lexusis350 - 1/13/2007 8:27:34 PM

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EL34-
"Wrong, Lexus is Toyota, just like Lincoln is Ford. Lexus could bring out a version of the Corolla and probally will."

And Mercedes is Chrysler, BMW is MINI, and Audi is Volkswagen. Most luxury makers have a less-prestige company running it.

Willis - 1/14/2007 7:41:18 AM

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LexusIS350 said:

And Mercedes is Chrysler, BMW is MINI, and Audi is Volkswagen. Most luxury makers have a less-prestige company running it.

Wow, you sir are an idiot. I won't say anything more.

lexusis350 - 1/15/2007 1:35:37 AM

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Why in the heck am I an idiot. It's true, is it not? Prove me wrong on this one, go ahead...

fkhuang2000 - 1/13/2007 3:54:14 PM

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The car looks like a typical boy racer car with those scoops. The IS feels cheap with light doors and plastic door handles (unlike Mercedes AMGs). IS-F is nothing else but cheap speed. German cars (i.e. Mercedes, BMW, and Audi) were built for the Autobahn. They are stable, solid, and smooth at high speeds. With M power, AMG, and Audi RS and S, you get that and the acceleration and handling. The IS-F will never feel like a German car. It is for a different kind of driver, as I stated in my first sentence.

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lexuslife - 1/13/2007 5:25:34 PM

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fkhuang2000 and why would you want to feel like a German car? IS-F is already a better car.

M3owns - 1/13/2007 5:49:06 PM

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fkhuang2000 , calling lexus cheap, doesnt tell that you what a lexus is. Lexus Has better quality than any of the M3 or the RS4. and yeah rite , plastic, dude you need to wake up and look at the bmw 335i , now this thing is made out of REAL plastic. Look at the over head console, push it up and it just bounces, and that does it. Also performance is what matters, and I cant give an answer whether the M3 or IS-f or the RS4 will prevail over the others. Its just not educated to say something now because we dont even know what are the exact specifications of the IS-f or the next M3. I would just say its going to be a good competition between all of them.

mitchatlexusofmarin - 1/13/2007 7:05:13 PM

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Sorry huang, but I am 5 feet away from an IS350 and the door handles are not plastic.

fkhuang2000 - 1/13/2007 11:43:37 PM

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Tap the interior door handles of the IS250 or 350. They are plastic. Lexus does the same thing for the falgship LS.

mitchatlexusofmarin - 1/15/2007 4:39:14 PM

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We dont have a falgship.

SupraNeverBack - 1/13/2007 3:58:43 PM

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Like it or not, that is how the final production IS-F car will look like.

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SupraNeverBack - 1/13/2007 4:00:03 PM

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No need to go over this again and again...

lexuslife - 1/13/2007 5:02:05 PM

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EL34 make a better, Lexus is just toyota, just like audi is vw, mb is chrysler, so what's you point

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Matthew1 - 1/13/2007 6:06:15 PM

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lexuslife,

His point is that you are a complete and utter idiot if you think Mercedes-Benz cars have anything to do with Chrysler.

Funny how you don't mention anything about 'Lexus1' and his 'silly comments'.

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lexuslife - 1/13/2007 6:41:36 PM

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I'm with lexus1 100%. I did not see your point beside using the word utter idiot if you can't see it ur that stupid.

Bill - 1/13/2007 7:12:12 PM

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You're with this Lexus1 clown 100%? Well, if you are, then I won't take anything you say seriously. Anyone with half a brain will realize that this shmuck is posting BS to start flame wars. Either that, or he's a complete retard who's lost touch with reality.

Lexus1 = idiot

lexusis350 - 1/13/2007 8:30:20 PM

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"His point is that you are a complete and utter idiot if you think Mercedes-Benz cars have anything to do with Chrysler."

Mercedes and Chrysler have a lot of things to do with each other. Mercedes, I believe uses Chryler technologies on their engines, and Chrysler uses Mercedes' suspensions. They're the same company. It's common sense to use both companies to create vehicles.

Willis - 1/14/2007 7:45:23 AM

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Mercedes and Chrysler have a lot of things to do with each other. Mercedes, I believe uses Chryler technologies on their engines, and Chrysler uses Mercedes' suspensions. They're the same company. It's common sense to use both companies to create vehicles.

Is this typical Lexus fanboy propaganda to discredit Mercedes? Mercedes doesn't use Chrysler parts. Chrysler uses some Mercedes parts and that's it. Just because Chrysler uses some Mercedes parts, transmissions or engines doesn't make Mercedes a Chrysler.

S4cabriofoxone - 1/14/2007 9:42:05 PMView My AgentSpace

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^And the GX. It's on the 4Runner platform (you don't get either of those trucks over there).

lexusis350 - 1/15/2007 1:40:16 AM

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What I'm saying is that Mercedes, BMW, and Audi all have a relationship with a less-prestigious brand. Lexus may not have an ultra-luxury brand, but in all honesty, why have one. They don't sell. You invest millions of dollars on a vehicle you'd be lucky to sell 2,000 of every year. Anyway, Toyota and Lexus have a relationship, Audi and Volkswagen do, BMW and MINI do, and Mercedes and Chrysler do. You guys who are denying this are those who don't want a, quote: "Lexus Fanboy", to prove you wrong. Well, sorry to burst your bubble, but I think I just did. You can't even try to tell me that Mercedes/BMW/Audi are all powerful because they have nothing to do with lower luxury brands, because guess what, they do.

Willis - 1/15/2007 1:29:47 PM

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LexusIS350,

I don't understand what you're trying to say. Mercedes doesn't run Chrysler and neither does Chrysler run Mercedes. Both these BRANDS are run by the mother firm, DaimlerChrysler. DaimlerChrysler is the major brand that runs sub-brands such as Chrysler, Dodge, Mercedes, Smart etc.

You're coming across as very idiotic. And you still owe me pictures of your "supposed Lexus LS460" which you "purchased".

lexusis350 - 1/15/2007 4:26:14 PM

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Willis-
What I'm trying to say is that most every luxury automaker has some connections with less-luxury brands. While Mercedes doesn't own Chrysler, or vise versa, they both have connections with each other. And by the way, I do owe you pictures of me with my LS. What site did you want me to post them on again?

EL34 - 1/13/2007 6:59:33 PM

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Here he comes
Here comes Speed Racer
He's a demon on wheels
He's a demon and he's gonna be chasin' after someone.

He's gainin' on you so you better look alive.
He's busy revvin' up a powerful Mach 5.

And when the odds are against him
And there's dangerous work to do
You bet your life Speed Racer
Will see it through.

Go Speed Racer
Go Speed Racer
Go Speed Racer, Go!

He's off and flyin' as he guns the car around the track
He's jammin' down the pedal like he's never comin' back
Adventure's waitin' just ahead.

Go Speed Racer
Go Speed Racer
Go Speed Racer, Go!

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M53R - 1/14/2007 11:54:55 AMView My AgentSpace

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lmao at u and Will haha!!!

EL34 - 1/13/2007 7:30:23 PM

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Isn't this Lexus IS-F a concept?

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mitchatlexusofmarin - 1/13/2007 7:32:04 PM

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Are you joking?

7msynthetic - 1/13/2007 7:50:14 PM

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Mdalle - the you forgot to mention that the M3 WILL NOT have over or even close to 350lbs of torque. Not from a 4.2L V8. I would say BMW designed the M3 to compete with the RS4 and to be quite honest probably didnt give a rats a$$ about anything from Lexus. It would be safe to say that BMW is at least a bit concerned and should be if Lexus gets the handling right. The design? - I like it but I respect other peoples views and concerns. Jan 08 will be mayhem.

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mitchatlexusofmarin - 1/13/2007 7:57:49 PM

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BTW agent 001- do I detect a Chicago accent?

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Agent004 - 1/14/2007 1:28:03 PMView My AgentSpace

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No, but close.

Agent001 - 1/14/2007 2:07:07 PMView My AgentSpace

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Buffalo, New York

001

Agent008 - 1/14/2007 10:48:31 PMView My AgentSpace

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Yeah, he's basically Canadian, but swears a lot more...

1970toyotamarc - 1/13/2007 8:33:36 PM

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Thank you Agent 001, for once again renewing my faith in Autospies. Hope these vids become a permanent fixture. I love the car, that goes without saying. How's the long term 450h test going? how bout some vids of that.

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sewingmachine - 1/13/2007 9:20:58 PM

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nice vid, yeah u should do more of these at autoshows.

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answer - 1/13/2007 10:20:33 PMView My AgentSpace

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Please don't let EL34 bother you.

Between his random comments about the real estate market, he is also quick to point out that he likes the LS enough to consider buying one.

I think the ISF in black or white will be much more attractive then the auto show one.

If I get one, I'll be sticking with the all black interior though.

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Lexus - 1/13/2007 10:39:18 PM

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I think when the actually Lexus IS-F come out, I think it will offer the stick version for sure. You think they spend all that money and ruin the sales because they don't offer a stick shift; I think not. We just have to wait and see.

Lexus

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S4cabriofoxone - 1/14/2007 9:24:51 AMView My AgentSpace

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Although I usually respect your views, I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about.

If Lexus gave two shits about manual transmissions, #1, they'd have put one in the IS350.

#2, don't you think they would've ANNOUNCED it and PRIDED THEMSELVES in the fact that the IS-F has a manual? It doesn't. Like Mercedes's AMG division, their F cars will probably all have automatics.

Matthew1 - 1/13/2007 11:33:58 PM

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Lexus,

Don't go fooling yourself. The audience Lexus has aimed for with the new IS-F don't care for three pedals, so I would not expect a manual version of the IS-F, ever.

It also shows how dissapointing the IS-F design is when all the Lexus fans comment that it will look better in a differnt colour.

Scraping the bottom of the barrel there guys.

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AE86 - 1/14/2007 1:17:23 AM

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A manual and an LSD would be nice in a car with 400+ hp. My first car had 90hp (RX-7), it was great fun doing one tire burnouts. Not sure I would care for a 1 tire burnout with a 400+ hp car.

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underthegravity - 1/14/2007 1:20:58 AM

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Agent 001, I like your presentation style but if you can make your eye sight more steady and keep focusing at the camera, it will be a lot more professional.

Best regard

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Agent001 - 1/14/2007 2:47:20 AMView My AgentSpace

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thank you for the feedback.

hard to with hundreds of auto show attendees trying to walk through the video space

001

EL34 - 1/14/2007 3:21:25 AM

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001, you did an excellent job and thanks for the video.

Yours sincerely,

EL34

underthegravity - 1/14/2007 10:19:12 AM

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Please don't get me wrong, I do appreciate your video. Without you and this site, it would be a lot more boring in my workplace. Thank you for making this happen.

Agent008 - 1/14/2007 11:02:52 PMView My AgentSpace

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Plus, 004 and I were making dirty faces at him while we were filming...

Lexus - 1/14/2007 3:33:25 AM

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Matthew, how can you be so sure that Lexus won't offer a stick version for the IS-F? In fact, not to long ago everyone was saying that the Lexus IS500 now call IS-F were just a concept and that Lexus will "Never" make a true sport car. But look at it now, it will come out of production really soon.

Lexus will probably announce how hp this Lexus IS-F truelly has;when they know how much the new M3 and C-class AMG has first.

And yes I understand your doubt that Lexus might not offer the stick version for the IS-F. But all we can do now is wait; only time will tell. In my opinion Lexus will offer a stick version for all of it high performance Lexus.

Lexus

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S4cabriofoxone - 1/14/2007 9:29:07 AMView My AgentSpace

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"Matthew, how can you be so sure that Lexus won't offer a stick version for the IS-F? In fact, not to long ago everyone was saying that the Lexus IS500 now call IS-F were just a concept and that Lexus will "Never" make a true sport car. But look at it now, it will come out of production really soon."

That's completely irrelevant!

What does developing a manual transmission have to do with developing a CAR?

Everyone knew that the IS-F would come out- if all the German brands did it, which they have, then Lexus found it too irresistable to not follow them!

Mark my words: this car won't be offered with a manual, ever. Read my previous post, regarding your previous post.

AmazingBimmer - 1/14/2007 10:22:16 AM

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junk. goodbye rs4. Go bmw

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M53R - 1/14/2007 11:42:28 AMView My AgentSpace

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PEOPLE, FOR EVERY1 WHO DIDNT NOTICE, LEXUS1 IS THE SAME AS LEXUSDUDE. he just created a new account. anyway the IS-F will never beat the M3 and for every1 who thinks otherwise, we ll c after the M3 launches.

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answer - 1/14/2007 1:54:39 PMView My AgentSpace

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Really great point.

We should really wait until the both the ISF and new M3 are out before making performance judgements.

Let's stick to talking about design and whose mom is the fattest for the time being.

SupraNeverBack - 1/14/2007 9:53:16 PM

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Accept it, Manual transmission is dying... No race sport caring about performance is still using Manual.

BTW, It seems that BMW's SMG auto sucks and their Manual performs even worst. M5 with manual was just beaten by two autos.

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EL34 - 1/14/2007 8:30:42 PM

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IS-F 5.0 vs. Mustang 5.0

Let the battle begin!

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spadog55 - 1/14/2007 8:36:54 PM

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Isnt this the guy who rides around in a paid for by Lexus GS? Might be a little biased, dont ya think?

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S4cabriofoxone - 1/14/2007 9:43:18 PMView My AgentSpace

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LOL!

EL34 - 1/15/2007 12:56:23 PM

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Of course ;)

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