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DaimlerChrysler Says "We Won’t Share Platforms"

Agent009 submitted on 12/13/2006 Official Bell & Ross Timestamp: 11:34:24 AM

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DCX will not be sharing platforms between different brands for fears that sales and profits could suffer if buyers feel they can get essentially the same car at a cheaper price.

That’s the message given by a member of the DaimlerChrysler board to a labor union event in Germany, reported Reuters. He admitted there were pressures to cut costs and improve efficiencies, but maintained that the current approach would be better in the long term. Instead of sharing platforms, he said the companies would learn to share parts that users wouldn’t be able to notice such as water cooling pumps. The companies would also work together to purchase these parts in larger quantities and drop prices.

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1uberaudi

What about the MB CLK and the Chrysler Crossfire? And what about the Chrysler commercials that tell us the Town and Country and Pacifica are the best of German and American engineering? Come on DCX, do you really think were that dumb. Lexus is also trying this, but its not working.

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Posted on 12/13/2006 11:45:25 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

GS450h

1uberaudi I don't see Lexus trying to isolate itself from parent Toyota. The difference between Mercedes and Lexus is that many Lexus owners are actually very comfortable knowing that their car is a Toyota while not many Mercedes owners really wnat to know home many components are unterchangeable with a Dodge.

— GS450h (View Profile)

Posted on 12/13/2006 2:17:40 PM | | Votes: 1   

GS450h

oops sorry i meant "how many components are interchangeable with a Dodge"

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Posted on 12/13/2006 2:19:24 PM | | Votes: 0   

1995e34

it's slk and crossfire. and i believe any chrysler using benz parts is using the parts from PREVIOUS generation models.

— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/13/2006 3:18:37 PM | | Votes: 1   

2JZSoarer

You mean the SLK not the CLK!!!

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Posted on 12/14/2006 12:19:28 AM | | Votes: 1   

SixxFive

1uberaudi: the full article addresses the Crossfire topic. Notice that the article says won't - future tense.

I think this is a good idea. Did not know that VW/Audi are known for sharing the most platforms or as the article states "badge engineering."

— SixxFive (View Profile)

Posted on 12/13/2006 11:51:55 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Agent63

1uberaudi - 12/13/2006 11:45:25 AM
What about the MB CLK and the Chrysler Crossfire? And what about the Chrysler commercials that tell us the Town and Country and Pacifica are the best of German and American engineering? Come on DCX, do you really think were that dumb. Lexus is also trying this, but its not working.
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i'm sure they don't think you're dumb but i think you're dumb because it's the Crossfire that uses the old SLK platform. Also another thing it's not only the Town & Country and the Pacifica which are marketed as having the best of German and American Engineering.

Lexus is trying this ? now that i have yet to see on commercials. Can anyone confirm this?

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Posted on 12/13/2006 12:46:40 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

TheDonII

How about the R class and the Pacifica???

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Posted on 12/13/2006 10:47:51 PM | | Votes: 0   

BimmerFan

SixxFive wrote : "I think this is a good idea. Did not know that VW/Audi are known for sharing the most platforms or as the article states "badge engineering."

This is the reason Audi does not sell that well in the USA compared to BMW and Mercedes.

— BimmerFan (View Profile)

Posted on 12/13/2006 12:47:55 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

AgentBrabus

Agent63

I was going to say the same thing...But you just said it :-)

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Posted on 12/13/2006 12:48:51 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

dumpsty

A company such as DCX with so many products is smart to think about sharing platforms. How many consumers complain about their Lexus' feeling like "floaty" Toyotas? After all, it's the ride, textiles, and gadgets that most people ever really see, feel and care about. The platform is essentially unseen along with 30-40% of internal parts and equipment.

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Posted on 12/13/2006 12:53:01 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

1995e34

old e-class

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Posted on 12/13/2006 3:20:26 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Rupert

mercedes has a resolutley denied this. i believed it was true, but then they said absolutely not, so they're not based on the old e. pity, it was a good car.

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Posted on 12/13/2006 4:46:05 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

courtstone

But I dont get it. I understand that Mercedes and Chrysler merged, but why are they trying to distance themselves. I understand the issue with Mercedes buyers being a little upset about a Chrysler car that is just as good, but they merged. I expected there to be platform and technology sharing among the two.

When I heard the 300c was sharing chassis/platform and technology from the E class I thought that was good news. After all, Chrysler merged with a good auto company they should reap the benefits!

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Posted on 12/14/2006 10:40:11 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

PlanoA4

Actually a very good move for them.

As Lexus is finding you simply can't gussy up a standard econocar and proclaim it a world class vehicle. It does not stand on it own merits as world class. There are simply too many design compromises.

Lexus is now releasing new models that are structurally different to address this concern. By doing so they are differentiating themselves from the “common” Toyota vehicle which is exactly what Mercedes is doing from Chrysler.

Of course the Lexus fans are proclaiming this as an “innovation”, while BMW and MB fans yawn. They are simply used to it. So as Lexus ages it learns a valuable lesson from the old pros: “High end customers are not as dumb as they thought”.

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Posted on 12/13/2006 3:10:15 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

Bill

Lexus is now releasing new models that are structurally different to address this concern. By doing so they are differentiating themselves from the “common” Toyota vehicle which is exactly what Mercedes is doing from Chrysler.



A Mercedes has never been based off a Chrysler vehicle. Your wording in your sentence is incorrect, Plano.

— Bill (View Profile)

Posted on 12/14/2006 5:24:12 PM | | Votes: 1   

IZZIE06

Xero they The magnum and charger share the same rear end electronic stability control systems and steering columns. as the previous genaration e-class

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Posted on 12/13/2006 3:16:11 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

monkeyrun

I guess that explains that Chrysler Crossfire.

No platform sharing at all.

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Posted on 12/13/2006 3:46:33 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

huu76

Anyone mention the Pacifica and R-class? I'm still suspicious that the Viper and SLR share the same design (probably different materials though).

Plano,
Yeah, they yawn because they're used to the same old overpriced crap.

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Posted on 12/13/2006 7:10:41 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2   

1995e34

viper and slr probably don't even share the same oil viscocity let alone any mechanicals. although they DO both have four wheels, so you never know...

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Posted on 12/13/2006 7:59:25 PM | | Votes: 3   

chewy

Pacifica and R-Class and Viper and SLR share nothing. Chryslers are just reworked Dodges. The Crossfire was a reskin of the last generation SLK, but it sells in such low quantaties that no one remembers it.

— chewy (View Profile)

Posted on 12/13/2006 10:49:30 PM | | Votes: 2   

OBSERVER1984

Smart said!

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Posted on 12/13/2006 7:33:38 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

IZZIE06

No the viper and the SLR are 2 completely different beasts.

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Posted on 12/13/2006 7:37:22 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

woood

Why did that DCX guy have to say that. Its common knowledge that platform sharing is a given. Its the gadgets, materials, different designs and overall package that sets these brands apart. Simple.

— woood (View Profile)

Posted on 12/14/2006 12:34:46 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

audiot

Sharing is a good thing, especially at the holidays. Is this statement sending the wrong attitude to people?

— audiot (View Profile)

Posted on 12/14/2006 10:06:19 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Rupert

the viper and slr share about as much as apples and windows.

— Rupert (View Profile)

Posted on 12/14/2006 11:11:27 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

GS450h

The GL R and ML are based on a variation of the Grand Cherokee chassis. That's why the new bluetec V6 easily fits in any of these models. Also the transmission on the SRT-8 model is the same that is used on the AMG Mercedes.

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Posted on 12/14/2006 3:11:46 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Rupert

gl, r and ml don't share platform with jeep, i am sure of it. the last ml was seperate chssis, the grand cherokee wasn't. they have always shared engines, (last gen jeep last gen 2.7 diesel from last gen ml, which is completely different from jeep), but they are completely different vehicles.

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Posted on 12/14/2006 3:42:36 PM | | Votes: 1   

Rupert

but they do share engines, the 3.5 is the 350 from merc. 320cdi is 3.0 crd in 300c + grand cherokee.

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Posted on 12/14/2006 3:44:00 PM | | Votes: 1   

S4cabriofoxone

The GL is based off of the Jeep Commander, and the ML is based off of the Jeep Cherokee. Sorry, Rupert.

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Posted on 12/14/2006 11:04:52 PM | | Votes: 0   

Rupert

seriously? i'm almost certain they're not. i know for a FACT that the last gen ml had a chassis, yet the last gen and current gen jeep grand cherokee were monocoques (unit body, is that a better word?). also the jeep has beam axles (or maybe only 1) and the ml is independently sprung. the gl/ml/r share 1 platform, and the commander/grand cherokee are bult off the same platform too.
i am certain tha the merc and jeep are not relate bar 1 diesel engine.

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Posted on 12/15/2006 9:39:05 AM | | Votes: 2   

Rupert

"the gl/ml/r share 1 platform, and the commander/grand cherokee are bult off the same platform too."
i mean that the commander and grand cherokee share a platform with eachother.

— Rupert (View Profile)

Posted on 12/15/2006 4:33:06 PM | | Votes: 1   

IZZIE06

EXACTLY how are the GL and ML based off of the Commander and Cherokee?

— IZZIE06 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/14/2006 11:29:20 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

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