Diesels cause Heart Disease!

Things you can see aren't small enough to enter your airways. People really have this misconception that diesel is dirty because you can see the soot coming out of the tailpipes of older vehicles. But it's really the stuff that's smaller than 10 microns (PM10) that will get breathed in and absorbed. And most humans can't see 10 microns...much less 100 microns.

— budfrogS4 (View Profile)

Posted on 7/26/2007 2:06:16 PM | | Votes: 0   

I'm using industrial one-micron air filters in my home heating/ airconditioning system now. I don't know if that is feasible on cars without restricting exhaust air flow too much but it may be theoretically possible by electrostatic means.

— EnnNorak (View Profile)

Posted on 7/27/2007 1:22:54 PM | | Votes: 0   

I read an article in "alarmists-r-us.com" and it stated VERY clearly that eating pu__y and the same day going to the beach, if it is a sunny Sunday (not overcast as that only causes extreeme feelings of depression) causes breast cancer in males between the ages of 17 and 19 1/2.... lol ; Living causes cancer, next! ( Sorry if I offended any one with that vulgarity )

— bimmermike2 (View Profile)

Posted on 7/26/2007 5:41:11 PM | | Votes: 2   

Christ, I was wondering what that lump was.

— henbmw (View Profile)

Posted on 7/30/2007 10:11:45 AM | | Votes: 1   

I've found that bull sh!t news articles cause heart disease.

— johannas (View Profile)

Posted on 7/26/2007 3:10:47 PM | | Votes: 1   

A Hybrid ;) LOL ..............so much for diesel to overthrowth hybrid in America.

— Lexus (View Profile)

Posted on 7/26/2007 8:42:20 PM | | Votes: 1   

Actually you are completely wrong in that assumption. Diesel engines emit far more particulate matter of the kind that is linked to asthma, and now heart disease, than petrol/gas engines do.

The "Pollution causes heart disease" link you saw probably pointed to an article talking about industrial pollution from factories and power plants.....which also emit a lot of particulates like diesel engines.

— maff23uk (View Profile)

Posted on 7/27/2007 6:09:08 AM | | Votes: 2   

When you fry meat, a carcinogenic product is produced.

Suppose someone handed you some pure asbestos and said, "Swallow this!"

You protest, saying you don't want to get lung cancer.

The person who handed the asbestos says, "Even meat causes cancer. You eat meat, don't you? So why not swallow this asbestos?"

What you are ignoring is the DEGREE of risk.

Frying meat may increase risk of cancer by a bit but swallowing asbestos is much, much worse.

Looking at petrol versus diesel, diesel emission is much, much worse than petrol emission.

If you live in Europe where diesel is cheap due to government intervention then it may be necessary to buy diesel. But if you are wealthy and have children, pets, etc, then you should probably consider a petrol car.

Google [diesel cancer] to find out more.

— norak (View Profile)

Posted on 7/28/2007 12:27:56 AM | | Votes: 1   

partially true, but the diesels in old benzes still walk around the streets by my house spewing black smoke nearby the MB dealer.

— Htay7500 (View Profile)

Posted on 7/27/2007 9:03:06 AM | | Votes: 2   

"There's a substantial body of expert opinion to say the fine particles from diesel exhaust are the most dangerous elements of the traffic pollution that's responsible for about 1,200 deaths a year in Australia."

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2004/s1179825.htm


"Diesel's predominance leads to some surprising results. For example, San Francisco, California shows a risk level of 2,600 additional cancer cases per million, with 90 percent of the risk coming from diesel emissions. The goal set in the Clean Air Act for air toxics is a maximum of one additional case per million."

http://www.rag.org.au/buc/cancerrisk.htm


"Diesel exhaust is more carcinogenic than cigarette smoke...Research overseas shows that people exposed to diesel exhaust at high levels in enclosed spaces for long periods of time – such as truck drivers, railway workers, and miners – face up to 30 per cent increased risk of lung cancers, even after the effects of smoking are taken into account."

"While only 10 per cent of cars and trucks run on diesel [in Australia], they're responsible for around 80 per cent of fine particles from vehicles."

http://www.abc.net.au/health/regions/features/diesel/


"Diesel emissions are the primary culprit behind Americans’ one in 2100 risk of developing cancer from breathing outside air—500 times the Clean Air Act’s protective threshold of 1 in 1 million, according to a recent report by the U.S. Public Interest Research Group, a national public interest advocacy group. Dangers of Diesel: How Diesel Soot and Other Air Toxics Increase Americans’ Risk of Cancer examines the cancer risk of 33 hazardous air pollutants, focusing on five from mobile sources: diesel soot, acetaldehyde, benzene, 1,3 butadiene, and formaldehyde. Diesel emissions represented 89% of the increased cancer risk, 60% of which come from nonroad vehicles such as construction and farm equipment."

http://pubs.acs.org/subscribe/journals/esthag-w/2002/oct/policy/lk_dieselcancer.html

— norak (View Profile)

Posted on 7/28/2007 12:42:12 AM | | Votes: 2