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Diesels cause Heart Disease!
Research finds that, among other things, diesel particulate matter increases ones chance for clogged arteries. Maybe there is hope for hybrids after all. Read Article
Diesels cause Heart Disease!



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Will_Will_ - 7/26/2007 1:02:18 PM
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SupraNeverBackSupraNeverBack - 7/26/2007 1:03:22 PM
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"clean" killer

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M35MTM35MT - 7/26/2007 1:16:49 PMView My AgentSpace
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Diesel is dirty. That's why its been so difficult to sell them here, our emissions standards are more strict than Europe.

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budfrogS4budfrogS4 - 7/26/2007 2:06:16 PMView My AgentSpace
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Things you can see aren't small enough to enter your airways. People really have this misconception that diesel is dirty because you can see the soot coming out of the tailpipes of older vehicles. But it's really the stuff that's smaller than 10 microns (PM10) that will get breathed in and absorbed. And most humans can't see 10 microns...much less 100 microns.


EnnNorakEnnNorak - 7/27/2007 1:22:54 PM
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I'm using industrial one-micron air filters in my home heating/ airconditioning system now. I don't know if that is feasible on cars without restricting exhaust air flow too much but it may be theoretically possible by electrostatic means.


ElSparquitoElSparquito - 7/26/2007 1:22:48 PM
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I'll try to resist the temptation of eating a philly-n-cheese while taking hits from a tailpipe.

Seriously, "Diesels cause heart disease" is just too much!

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bimmermike2bimmermike2 - 7/26/2007 5:41:11 PM
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I read an article in "alarmists-r-us.com" and it stated VERY clearly that eating pu__y and the same day going to the beach, if it is a sunny Sunday (not overcast as that only causes extreeme feelings of depression) causes breast cancer in males between the ages of 17 and 19 1/2.... lol ; Living causes cancer, next! ( Sorry if I offended any one with that vulgarity )


henbmwhenbmw - 7/30/2007 10:11:45 AM
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Christ, I was wondering what that lump was.


Htay7500Htay7500 - 7/26/2007 1:25:10 PM
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really? oh I didnt know tht!!


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I have asthma, and during middle school where I took a dirty disel school bus to and from home, I had a headache and became nauseous. bad throat too. and this has happened when I was in my uncles diesel corolla in Myanmar, where I also got knocked out silly. so, I can't consider one until they do something about it...

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Bmw8terBmw8ter - 7/26/2007 1:44:09 PM
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High fat food causes heartdisease.
Tobacco use causes heartdisease.
Steroids makes muscles grow and cause heartdisease.
Marriage causes homicidal tendencies and shrinkage, but at the same time, causes heartdisease.

What doesn't cause heartdisease nowadays?



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johannasjohannas - 7/26/2007 3:10:47 PM
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I've found that bull sh!t news articles cause heart disease.


LexusLexus - 7/26/2007 8:42:20 PM
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A Hybrid ;) LOL ..............so much for diesel to overthrowth hybrid in America.


budfrogS4budfrogS4 - 7/26/2007 1:58:48 PMView My AgentSpace
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My guess is that the same applies for all emissions. All combustion has relatively the same chemistry, it's just that this study happened to research diesel effects. There's a link on the right of that article that has a headline for "pollution causes heart disease" so it's hardly diesel-specific.

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maff23ukmaff23uk - 7/27/2007 6:09:08 AM
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Actually you are completely wrong in that assumption. Diesel engines emit far more particulate matter of the kind that is linked to asthma, and now heart disease, than petrol/gas engines do.

The "Pollution causes heart disease" link you saw probably pointed to an article talking about industrial pollution from factories and power plants.....which also emit a lot of particulates like diesel engines.


noraknorak - 7/28/2007 12:27:56 AM
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When you fry meat, a carcinogenic product is produced.

Suppose someone handed you some pure asbestos and said, "Swallow this!"

You protest, saying you don't want to get lung cancer.

The person who handed the asbestos says, "Even meat causes cancer. You eat meat, don't you? So why not swallow this asbestos?"

What you are ignoring is the DEGREE of risk.

Frying meat may increase risk of cancer by a bit but swallowing asbestos is much, much worse.

Looking at petrol versus diesel, diesel emission is much, much worse than petrol emission.

If you live in Europe where diesel is cheap due to government intervention then it may be necessary to buy diesel. But if you are wealthy and have children, pets, etc, then you should probably consider a petrol car.

Google [diesel cancer] to find out more.


bimmermike2bimmermike2 - 7/26/2007 6:16:34 PM
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Touche XeroKOOL !

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MaindrianPaceMaindrianPace - 7/26/2007 4:33:02 PM
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Well american industry and american fast food also causes heart disease, probably to a much greater extent

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RupertRupert - 7/26/2007 6:45:28 PMView My AgentSpace
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Why is Harry Potter one of the tags on this story???

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BMW995BMW995 - 7/26/2007 7:13:15 PM
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I wouldn't discount this finding. Smoking causes a lot more heart disease deaths than deaths from cancer. Well, I guess we've got to die of something.

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2007Tahoe2007Tahoe - 7/26/2007 10:09:04 PM
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*Sigh* Doesn't EVERYTHING cause heart disease these days?

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993Turbo993Turbo - 7/27/2007 6:36:30 AM
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The diesel cars are clean. It's the black smoke bellowing commercial vehicles that are spewing all the particulate matter.

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Htay7500Htay7500 - 7/27/2007 9:03:06 AM
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partially true, but the diesels in old benzes still walk around the streets by my house spewing black smoke nearby the MB dealer.


Htay7500Htay7500 - 7/27/2007 9:05:43 AM
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and... http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/findacar.htm

not against diesel, just not for my health.

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MeanVulcanMeanVulcan - 7/27/2007 12:35:41 PM
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Typical Medical Report by someone trying to get noticed with alarmist news. I do not disagree with the findings since I have no facts to disprove but i find it irresponsible for this author to make such claims without providing numbers. Is it a risk increase of 90% or is it a .02% increase. Also, which people does it really affect, fat people that drive diesels, or any other specific combination... what are the facts here.

It is typical for ignorant people to take these reports and alarm the whole world when no numbers are provided.

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noraknorak - 7/28/2007 12:42:12 AM
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"There's a substantial body of expert opinion to say the fine particles from diesel exhaust are the most dangerous elements of the traffic pollution that's responsible for about 1,200 deaths a year in Australia."

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2004/s1179825.htm


"Diesel's predominance leads to some surprising results. For example, San Francisco, California shows a risk level of 2,600 additional cancer cases per million, with 90 percent of the risk coming from diesel emissions. The goal set in the Clean Air Act for air toxics is a maximum of one additional case per million."

http://www.rag.org.au/buc/cancerrisk.htm


"Diesel exhaust is more carcinogenic than cigarette smoke...Research overseas shows that people exposed to diesel exhaust at high levels in enclosed spaces for long periods of time – such as truck drivers, railway workers, and miners – face up to 30 per cent increased risk of lung cancers, even after the effects of smoking are taken into account."

"While only 10 per cent of cars and trucks run on diesel [in Australia], they're responsible for around 80 per cent of fine particles from vehicles."

http://www.abc.net.au/health/regions/features/diesel/


"Diesel emissions are the primary culprit behind Americans’ one in 2100 risk of developing cancer from breathing outside air—500 times the Clean Air Act’s protective threshold of 1 in 1 million, according to a recent report by the U.S. Public Interest Research Group, a national public interest advocacy group. Dangers of Diesel: How Diesel Soot and Other Air Toxics Increase Americans’ Risk of Cancer examines the cancer risk of 33 hazardous air pollutants, focusing on five from mobile sources: diesel soot, acetaldehyde, benzene, 1,3 butadiene, and formaldehyde. Diesel emissions represented 89% of the increased cancer risk, 60% of which come from nonroad vehicles such as construction and farm equipment."

http://pubs.acs.org/subscribe/journals/esthag-w/2002/oct/policy/lk_dieselcancer.html
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