Disappointing IIHS Crash Test result for 2007 Lexus LS460

Hans submitted on 05/17/2007 Official AutoSpies Timestamp: 10:24 PM
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Tags: 2007 Lexus LS460 scores only a "Marginal" in an IIHS rear crash test - outrated by the A6, E Class and the 5 Series

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2007 Lexus LS460 scores only a "Marginal" in an IIHS rear crash test - outrated by the A6

E Class and the 5 Series

Disappointing IIHS Crash Test result for 2007 Lexus LS460

The 2007 LS class is the flagship vehicle from Lexus, however the 2007 Lexus LS460 does rather poorly in the Rear Crash Test, it only scores a "Marginal".

The LS460 was outrated in the rear crash Test by the Audi A6, Mercedes E Class and the BMW 5 Series.

Ratings -
1.Good
2.Acceptable
3.Marginal
4.Poor

IIHS Crash Test Large Luxury cars

2007 Lexus LS 460 - Front - Good, Side - Not tested, Rear MARGINAL

2007 Audi A6 - Front- Good, Side - Good, Rear - Good

2007 Mercedes E Class - Front Good, Side - Acceptable, Rear Good

2007 BMW 5 series - Front Good, Side - not tested, Rear - Good

The Mercedes S Class, Audi A8 and BMW 7 Series have not been tested as yet.

The above results are listed at - http://www.iihs.org/ratings/summary.aspx?class=10

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w209w114 - 5/18/2007 9:59:19 AMView My AgentSpace

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MARGINAL test result for the new LS??? Whats happening at the toyota safety engineering dept?

Lexusking:

How come IIHS is biased against Lexus when they barely pass safety tests but when Consumer Reports throws Mercedes to last place they arent Biased?

IIHS actually TESTS the vehicles and there is no getting around the final results. CR is just a load of bull based only on "peoples comments" now thats Biased. JUST A THOUGHT

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enthusiastx11 - 5/18/2007 10:34:10 AM

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so now all the insurance companies are biased against lexus? get a grip.

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w209w114 - 5/18/2007 11:27:54 AMView My AgentSpace

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Lexus King,

I dont think you should be talking about rocket science after just posting that. Period.

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maikoazu - 5/18/2007 11:45:28 AM

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LK - You're full of **it!

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S4cabriofoxone - 5/18/2007 2:49:25 PMView My AgentSpace

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Why are any of you replying to this guy?

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SupraNeverBack - 5/18/2007 12:09:33 PM

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IIHS so called rear end "crash" test is not a real crash test.

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w209w114 - 5/18/2007 1:44:42 PMView My AgentSpace

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Supra

There's no such thing as a fake crash. Maybe a staged crash? This is even better because they can impact the test vehicles with the same device at the same speed and strength insuring they are EQUALLY tested. So theres no Bias here, Only facts

SupraNeverBack - 5/18/2007 1:49:02 PM

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They don't do real rear-crash cars but just take out their seats to measure.

mikeydred20 - 5/20/2007 12:57:56 PM

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booo hoo all a you are cry babies get over fact of the matter is the more you pay attention to other things the more you forget about the simple things. Go ACURA (ADVANCE)

EliteRanger - 5/18/2007 2:04:29 PM

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Lexus don't need to worry, the LS can drive itself thus meaning it will never crash...haha!!!

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S4cabriofoxone - 5/18/2007 2:52:33 PMView My AgentSpace

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No matter which cars it's compared against, a "Marginal" is always a low score. Unless the other big sedans all get bad scores, this is still a disappointment.

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S4cabriofoxone - 5/19/2007 10:40:12 PMView My AgentSpace

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The A8, S-Class and 7 Series haven't been tested yet. I doubt that any of them would recieve a "Marginal" score, especially the Audi and Mercedes.

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sewingmachine - 5/18/2007 7:06:04 PM

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lets put the is350 against the large german brand autos and see how that works out to next.

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chewy - 5/18/2007 9:23:38 PMView My AgentSpace

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Audi A6 has te best rating out of all.

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TheGenius - 5/18/2007 11:16:56 PM

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Don't know what all the noise is about. This is nothing new. Considering the number of appliances Toyota churns out, you would think that they would be capable of building a few cars that can ace the IIHS's tests, but they can't figure out how to make one. Instead they're pre-occupied with marketing gimmicks..hence hyping anti-collision systems. Don't get me wrong, Anti-collision systems are a very good thing, especially when augmented with a solid car design, but they're not as effective if you're riding around in a coke can with horrible brakes. Lets see what pre-safe will do for you when an 18 wheeler climbs over you like a speed bump. See the "real world" Audi TT - trailer encounter below, and note that the driver sustained only minor scratches..The car did its job. For the ignorant, Audi was the first and only manufacturer to have 3 models in the IIHS top pics, and they build the safest cars: period!! Only the almighty will save you when the brakes of your LS engage and you're still traveling forward..better practice jumping out of it while its moving..the outcome may be safer than having the coke can deform on you.

http://www.katu.com/news/entertainment/3624846.html

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S4cabriofoxone - 5/19/2007 10:41:16 PMView My AgentSpace

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The A3, A4, A6 and Q7 have all gotten the highest ratings possible by the IIHS. The A3, A4 and A6 recieved this all at once in 2005, while the Q7's was 2006.

S4cabriofoxone - 5/20/2007 5:37:26 PMView My AgentSpace

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You go find it. It's from 2006.

EL34 - 5/19/2007 12:35:54 AM

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The Lexus LS460 will be an expensive car to maintain when smashing it into trash cans.

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TheGenius - 5/19/2007 8:01:48 AM

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LexusAdmirer,
your name says it all and your sentence structure explains why you have that name... Here are some corrections for the 3 lines you posted. The only thing you got right was the link. (Thank god it was a copy and paste)

It should be "Audi builds" not Audi build.
It should be "LS has" not LS have
It should be "Did you miss" not did you missed.
Its Lobotomy recovery patients like you that give Lexus a bad name; a brainless post like that reflects poorly on the tasteful Lexus drivers out there, and that's even before reviewing the content.
Ok lets see, silly sentences notwithstanding, if there's any substance in you post:
Here's the link, find someone to type it in for you and then use the pulldowns to confirm what I'm going the say.
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/default.aspx

The A8 was not tested, but if you can think (and I know you find that difficult if not impossible), you can only surmise the it will do well considering the results of the A3, A4 and A6
The TT was not tested either
The IIHS has not tested the Q7, but I'm pretty sure it will set the benchmark when they do. Its aced the NHSTA tests
It is not surprising with your reasoning ability or lack thereof that you would interpret not tested to mean its not a top pick. This may be a revelation to you, but its very very very difficult for a car to make a top pick or worst pick for that matter if it has not been tested!!!!!!!!!

About the silly article you reference. I saw it but I don't waste my time commenting on articles that are obviously hopeless. I've read no less than 8 different articles from a wider variety of sources that show the entire opposite..so a staged attempt to rectify the situation will not impress me.. Even Lexus management talked about bringing in a sports package with uprated brakes to help improve braking and handling so I wouldn't give credence to silly rigged Japanese videos.. Enjoy your 21st century Buick, but like I alluded to earlier, figure out a way to save yourself when your brake pedal is mashed down and you're still moving forward long after you should have stopped!!

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M53R - 5/19/2007 8:27:56 AMView My AgentSpace

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Wow. No wonder Ive been seeing 07 camry's rear totally gone in most accidents.

I have said this before and I will say it again.
The germans make more solid cars and that is a fact. Who wants to bet?

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Beemer4u - 5/19/2007 2:18:20 PM

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I can't believe some of you losers.....rooting for car manufacturers like they are the Home Team, or your old Alma Mater.....you need to expand your interests, try new things, and if possible, get a girlfriend. Berating someone for not liking the same car you like is a symptom of someone that is uncomfortable with their own sexuality.....or worse!

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Will_ - 5/19/2007 9:53:39 PM

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Yup. More anti-Japanese bias. They only rated the LS's rear MARGINAL because they want to deter people from buying it. Everyone knows that the backseat of the LS is the best seating arrangement in its class. ;)

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S4cabriofoxone - 5/19/2007 10:45:18 PMView My AgentSpace

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And you're being sarcastic...?

And you know there's plenty of anti-German bias, too, right?

huu76 - 5/20/2007 1:11:34 PM

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Why are we comparing the LS to midsized Germans cars? The 7, A and S have not been tested.

About the rear test rating.
Read this, the 5-series has a poor rating if you get the base or sport seats, average w/ the comfort seats.
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/head_restraints/headrestraints.aspx?bmw

The A6 has an average rating unless it was built after Dec 2006.
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/head_restraints/headrestraints.aspx?audi

Here the E was rated average overall, yet ended up with a Good rating.
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/head_restraints/headrestraints.aspx?mercedes

It sounds as though dynamic testing can be fixed simply by making bigger head restraints to reduce the head contact time. Wonder if its that easy. Probably need better seatbelts too so you don't get thrown forward, as apparently that's one of the criteria they use.

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S4cabriofoxone - 5/20/2007 5:38:46 PMView My AgentSpace

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It's May 2007, so the A6 isn't average any more.

huu76 - 5/20/2007 1:13:30 PM

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Typo up above (I assume typo). The 5 only rated acceptable in the rear test.

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r_driver04 - 5/22/2007 3:35:36 PM

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It's not suppose to crash guys. The pre collision system was not prepared for the crash test. Its job is to avoid a crash all together. Lexus....what will they "not" think of next. Maybe they'll make seatbelts and SRS systems an option again, that would justify poor ratings.

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bevisroy - 5/24/2007 10:03:42 PM

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Lexus ALWAYS understates their 0 - 60 times by at least .5 seconds. Here are the results of the 5 Top Luxury Cars in this test which was reported in the January Issue of Car and Driver. Please note these tests were all done on the same day at about the same time and at the same altitude. The results reflect the average of 3 runs and all cars are the 2007 vintage.

Mercedes S550 5.6, 0 - 60 quarter mile in 14.1 (Benz show 5.4 in their specs)
BMW 750iL 5.7, 0 - 60 quarter mile in 14.2
Jag XJ Super 6.0 0 - 60 quarter mile 14.5
Lexus LS460L 6.2 0 - 60 quarter mile 14.6
Audi A8 6.8 0 - 60 quarter mile 15.2

Note that Lexus, as usual, is more than the 5.4 the manufacturer CLAIMS to get by .8 seconds.

Also note the LS430 (prior model the LS460 replaced) was rated at 295 HP and was actually 278 when Lexus corrected their rating. And there were no refunds or apologies from the so-called "quality" car company. ABC - Always Be Careful what you buy from the Lexus people.....

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mikeydred20 - 5/25/2007 10:05:09 PM

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this is for you lexusadmiirer if you really want do a google search for the top three safest cars. Th eAudi A4 The beast Acura RL highest score and one other I forgot, but it's not a Lex. This years MDX took the highest score of current cars tested.

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