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Tags: Dodge Viper SRT10, Nissan GT-R, Lightning Lap 2008

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Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR is Seven Seconds Faster than the Nissan GT-R Around Virgina International Raceway
... According to Car and Driver's Lightning Lap 2008 Results

What car—for the money—delivers the best combination of power, handling, and braking? That question is fundamental to the ongoing mission of this magazine and the core element of all our road tests. We should also point out that those traits are the key ingredients of a car’s fun-to-drive (FTD) quotient, something we value far more than cup holders and/or trunk volume.

But—and this is widely overlooked—the elements of FTD are also the key components of active safety, a vehicle’s ability to respond to and avoid an accident situation. The lane-change exercise, part of our comparison-test regimen, provides insight to this ability, but Lightning Lap delivers an indelible blueprint. Unless you’re a taxi driver in Baghdad, you might argue that no accident-avoidance situation goes on for three minutes, but of course our interest extends beyond dodging drivers whose text messaging overrides their attention to the road. We want to see how well a wide ­variety of performance cars combine their various dynamic elements in absolute terms in a controlled environment.

Controlled environment means racetrack, and for Lightning Lap that means the 4.2-mile Grand Course at Virginia International Raceway, near Danville, Virginia. This beautiful road circuit is an outstanding blend of fast chutes, blind-entry corners, and lots of changes in ­elevation, including a series of climbing esses that’s one of the most challenging sections of racetrack in America. Read Article



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222max222max - 9/26/2008 10:24:14 AM
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Mosler MT900S- 2:45.9 (2008)
Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR- 2:48.6 (2008)
Ferrari F430 Scuderia- 2:54.6 (2008)
Nissan GT-R- 2:55.6 (2008)
Chevrolet Corvette Z06- 2:58.2 (2007)
Ford GT- 3:00.7 (2006)
Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06- 3:01.1 (2006)
Chevrolet Corvette Z51- 3:01.2 (2008)
Dodge Viper SRT10- 3:01.6 (2006)
Porsche 911 GT3- 3:01.8 (2007)
Chevrolet Corvette C6- 3:03.6 (2007)
Cadillac CTS-V- 3:04.0 (2008)
Lotus Exige S- 3:04.5 (2007)
Audi R8- 3:04.6 (2007)
BMW M3- 3:05.6 (2008)
Porsche 997 Turbo- 3:05.8 (2007)
Ford Shelby GT500- 3:05.9 (2007)
Mercedes Benz C63 AMG- 3:06.5 (2008)
Lotus Elise- 3:09.2 (2006)
Chevy Corvette C6- 3:09.3 (2006)
Porsche Cayman S- 3:09.5 (2006)
BMW M6- 3:10.0 (2006)
BMW 335i Coupe- 3:10.5 (2007)
Ford Shelby GT500 3:11.0 (2006) [ECU issues slowed car]
Audi RS4- 3:11.2 (2007)
BMW Z4 M- 3:11.7 (2007)
Nissan 350Z Track 3:12.5 (2006)
Chevrolet Cobalt SS Turbocharged 3:13.0 (2008)
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X MR SSTT (semi-auto)- 3:13.3 (2008)
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX MR- 3:13.5 (2006)
BMW 135i (steptronic automatic)- 3:13.7 (2008)
Lexus IS F- 3:14.0 (2008)
Audi S5- 3:14.6 (2008)
Honda S2000 CR- 3:15.0 (2008)
Pontiac Solstice GXP- 3:15.7 (2007)
Mazda Speed 3- 3:16.0 (2007)
Dodge Challenger SRT8- 3:16.3 (2008)
Lotus Elise SC- 3:16.6 (2008) [WTF happened???]
Infiniti G37 Sport- 3:17.5 (2008)
Dodge Charger SRT8- 3:18.2 (2006)
Subaru Impreza WRX STI- 3:19.0 (2008)
Mazda RX-8- 3:19.0 (2006)
Chevy Cobalt SS (Supercharged)- 3:20.6 (2006)
Dodge Caliber SRT4- 3:20.8 (2008)
Ford Mustang GT- 3:20.9 (2006)
Volkswagen R32- 3:21.8 (2008)
Mini Cooper S (Turbo)- 3:22.9 (2007)
Honda Civic Mugen Si- 3:24.8 (2008)
Volkswagen GTI- 3:25.1 (2006)
Honda Civic Si- 3:26.5 (2006)
Volvo C30 T5 Version 2.0- 3:26.6 (2008)
Mazda MX-5- 3:29.3 (2006)

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GTR35GTR35 - 9/26/2008 10:40:38 AMView My AgentSpace
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"However equipped, the GT-R is certainly the most rewarding car to drive fast on a track." -CarandDriver

Not surprised that the GTR was outperformed by all-race-ready Mosler, Dodge, and Ferrari.

What happened to the "almighty" IS-F? It even lost to the 350Z. And what about the GT3? I'm gonna go ahead and give the GT3 a break this time and assume that the driver has little skills.
Great numbers other than that.

Thanks for the summary 222Max.




montyz81montyz81 - 9/26/2008 4:01:31 PM
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I was just going to mention that the Z beat the ISF. That is sad.


S30GTRS30GTR - 9/26/2008 11:10:59 AM
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you have to keep in mind though that the ACR is a fully raced out version of the viper. seems like a rough car for city driving. the GT-R at least has a smooth ride.

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TurboSpyderTurboSpyder - 9/26/2008 11:56:26 AMView My AgentSpace
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I don't know what the ACR is like in city driving but this is what R&T says about its track performance.


"The Viper is just the opposite. Its ease of use doesn’t come from prominent understeer but rather from a neutral, progressive, perfectly balanced chassis enhanced by aerodynamic downforce. It’s a pussycat, which is a strange thing to say about a car with 600 horsepower. But it’s content to dance gently around the limit, letting the driver comfortably use every bit of the car’s stunning speed. Where the GT-R simply goes out and does the job, the Viper gives the driver the perfect tools to do the job manually. Its friendliness is nothing short of amazing."


S30GTRS30GTR - 9/26/2008 11:13:26 AM
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the post should have said. MOSLER MT900S is faster than the VIPER ACR.

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dlindlin - 9/26/2008 11:17:47 AM
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or

NISSAN GT-R is 10 seconds faster than Porsche Turbo

:)


StarStar - 9/26/2008 11:50:26 AM
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So in Edmunds recent comparison the 335i is a little slower than the Audi S4 while on this track is 2 seconds faster than the... RS4. What is that saying? Is saying that in different conditions, different tracks you will have different results. Whoever thinks track times mean anything in real life is an idiot.

I take a 911 Turbo that is 30 seconds slower than a GT-R, over that s**ty Nissan any day. I buy a car because I like how is built and how it drives not because of what some tools wrote in their reviews or based on some BS track times.

If you want a race car become a race driver. If you want a fantastic street car choose it based on YOUR driving experience not some ridiculous time charts.

What a ridiculous trend this is, with all the econoboxes now put right next to fantastic cars only because they have similar track times. Who the f**k cares about that other than some pimpled face teenager sucking his finger while playing his favorite car game on Wii?

This is real life and in real life a Cobalt SS or a GT-R can lap a track with the speed of light, but they are still just a pile of s**t in the end.


S30GTRS30GTR - 9/26/2008 3:56:57 PM
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WHO THE HELL IS ARGUING WITH YOU STAR.


M316M316 - 9/26/2008 12:29:24 PM
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Star...take the Porsche and shut up then. We get it you don't like Japanese cars.

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StarStar - 9/26/2008 1:20:21 PM
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No, you shut up. I like Japanese cars. What I don't like is the ridiculous comparisons between econo racers and real supercars. If they want to claim that the GT-R is the fastest car you can buy for 70K I am okay with that but claiming that an econo racer like the GT-R competes with genuine sports cars like Porsche is ridiculuos. Is like comparing an EVO with a BMW M or Mercedes AMG car. It makes no sense.




abcdabcd - 9/26/2008 5:05:03 PM
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Star , for me enthusiast what matters is engineering and technology used in some car , quality of interior materials ( what you prefer , basing on your various comments ) is in second place . For me Lotus is better than Hyundai even with Lotus spartan interior becouse I prefer engineering and technology above interior materials quality , or another example Ferrari f40 - car without any interior . So of course if you prefer interior materials quality than Nissan GT-R may be for you econobox compared to Porsche , but for those who prefer engineering and technology the GT-R isn`t econobox .


JUGNUJUGNU - 9/26/2008 1:16:59 PMView My AgentSpace
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BMW 335i Coupe- 3:10.5 (2007)
Audi RS4- 3:11.2 (2007)

surprising.

JUGNU

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cs4444cs4444 - 10/9/2008 3:16:08 PMView My AgentSpace
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and the S5 is 4 seconds slower then the 335.
The S5 curb weight is 3910lbs!


350zdon17350zdon17 - 9/26/2008 1:24:10 PM
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its Crazy to see on a Track my car stock can do 3.12.5 with cars that are way more expensive,, makes me wish I could run my actual care on track with my mods

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JaybrnJaybrn - 9/26/2008 2:25:12 PM
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The CTS-V is no joke!

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Agent63Agent63 - 9/26/2008 9:12:10 PMView My AgentSpace
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All drivers will have their days where they are superb on the track and days when they are sub-par. I'm surprised the IS-F was that far behind but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps the driver of the Lexus was not familiar with the track, who knows. I'm not surprised at the same time because I never expected Lexus to make a proper sports car anyways. They've never made a proper sports sedan so why would they now? The LF-A is in jeopardy as well so there goes Lexus' hopes and dreams.

In the Japanese market; Honda/Nissan will dominate the sports car world with the GT-R and the NSX, no Toyo-Lexus will come in the near future. They could have continued the legacy of the Supra but they let the Celica run its course until it's death.

Lexus has no hope in being a contender for markets like the 911, SL, R8, XKR, or the V8 Vantage. Where's that MichaelTaylor character? he would have said the SC430 was a worthy contender LOL.

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rawbuxrawbux - 9/27/2008 4:06:08 AM
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Give the Viper the ability to shift in almost a nano second as well like the GTR and the time difference between the two would be much greater! The car that surprised me on the list was the Cobalt SS beating the Honda S2000, IS-F and the Evo MR.

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