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Does the 2008 Infiniti G37 beat the BMW 335? 001 gives you HIS verdict.
Leading the enhancements to the 2008 Infiniti G37 Coupe is the first-ever application of the new 3.7-liter V6 engine with VVEL (for Variable Valve Event and Lift). Rated at 330 horsepower and 270 lb-ft of torque, the new “VQ37VHR” contains approximately 35 percent new and unique parts from the new VQ35HR engine introduced in the 2007 G35 Sedan just last year.

Both the Coupe’s VQ37VHR and the Sedan’s VQ35HR engines are based on the award-winning VQ engine series, named one of the “Ten Best Engines” by Ward’s Auto World magazine for 13 consecutive years.

Along with utilizing a larger displacement than the previous 3.5-liter powerplant, the G37 Coupe’s new VVEL system combines hydraulic-controlled variable valve timing and electronically controlled variable valve lift on the intake side to help improve performance and response. The VVEL system is also expected to improve emissions and fuel efficiency. The VVEL intake camshafts, featuring continuously variable lift control teamed with the Continuously Variable Valve Timing Control System (CVTCS), allow for a 7,500 rpm redline.

The engine also features increased cylinder block height (from the previous 3.5-liter design), ladder frame construction for greater rigidity, large crank journal and pin diameters, asymmetric piston skirts, twin knock sensors, an electronically controlled “drive-by-wire” throttle system, molybdenum coated lightweight pistons, Iridium spark plugs and a symmetric twin air intake system.

A new, specially tuned dual exhaust system has been designed with equal length exhaust manifolds and low muffler exhaust backpressure to help improve engine breathing. Both intake and exhaust enhance driving pleasure with their authentic performance notes.

Rated at 330 horsepower, the new engine is not only considerably more powerful than the previous generation G Coupe (rated at 275 hp with 5AT, 293 hp with 6MT), but is expected to offer increased fuel mileage and reduced emissions levels. Overall vehicle fuel economy improvements are estimated to be nearly one mpg better than the G35 Sedan and nearly two mpg better than the previous generation G35 Coupe (actual EPA mileage estimates and emission information to be announced at a later date).

“The new 3.7-liter V6 is a true powerhouse – becoming more enjoyable as you drive it,” said Igo. “And, this powerplant also features Infiniti’s trademark “Swell” acceleration – introduced on the new G Sedan last year – with special tuning that builds horsepower almost continually to the redline like a building wave.”

The G37 Coupe engine is backed by a choice of an upgraded electronically controlled 5-speed automatic transmission with manual mode, downshift rev matching, DS mode and ASC (Adaptive Shift Control) that allows for quicker shifts in sporty driving situations and available genuine magnesium paddle shifters; or a newly revised, lightweight 6-speed manual transmission.

Performance Platform and Suspension

Developed at test circuits throughout Europe – including the famed Nürburgring – the G37 Coupe was conceived as a performance thoroughbred. Handling and ride performance increases come from the G37 Coupe’s enhanced FM (Front Mid-ship) platform, which has been stiffened 36% from the previous generation, is lower in overall height and has a wider front and rear track width.

The G37 Coupe’s 4-wheel independent suspension design features lightweight aluminum components and large front and rear stabilizer bars, increased spring rates and optimized suspension damping.

The front suspension is a double-wishbone design, with a single pivot lower wishbone and a long upper link. The multi-link rear suspension separates the shock absorbers and springs, locating the shock absorber inline with the wheel center. These designs help minimize alignment changes and reduce suspension friction for nimble handling and smooth riding characteristics.

Steering is provided by a twin-orifice vehicle-speed-sensing design, which provides optimum steering effort at both high and low vehicle speeds. Standard on all G37 Coupes is Vehicle Dynamic Control (VDC), which assists in enhancing vehicle stability under a variety of driving conditions.

Also available on the new G37 Coupe is Infiniti’s exclusive 4-Wheel Active Steer system (4WAS). With unique chassis configuration that features automatically variable front steering ratios and rear suspension geometry that adjusts to steering input and vehicle speed via motor-driven controls. The system’s electronic control unit calculates the desired vehicle dynamics from a series of sensors, including vehicle speed and steering angle, and separately directs both the front and rear actuators to change steering gear ratios and rear geometry by moving both the front steering gear and rear suspension lower links – thus providing sports car-like agility and secure stability.

Braking performance is provided by standard 4-wheel vented discs with 4-channel, 4-sensor Anti-lock Braking System (ABS), Electronic Brake force Distribution (EBD) and Brake Assist (BA). The standard G37 Coupe adopts the “sport” braking system of the recently introduced G35 Sedan. The G37 Coupe Journey with Sport Package and G37 Coupe Sport 6MT are further enhanced with aluminum four-piston calipers (front)/two-piston calipers (rear) embossed with Infiniti lettering and large ventilated rotors – 14.0-inch front and 13.8-inch rear.

Also available on G37 Coupe is Infiniti’s Intelligent Cruise Control (ICC) with Preview Braking, which provides a precise following distance from the vehicle ahead. It also identifies sudden braking situations with laser sensors to determine distance and relative speed of the vehicle ahead in the same lane and “pre-pressurizes” the Brake Assist system before the driver steps on the brake pedal.

A new 18-inch wheel and tire package is standard on G37 Coupe, featuring a “split 5-spoke” 18x8-inch aluminum-alloy wheel design with P225/50VR18 all-season tires. A new 10-spoke 19-inch wheel and tire package, with lightweight cast aluminum wheels and high performance tires, is also available. A Tire Pressure Monitor System (TPMS) is standard on all 2008 G37 Coupes.

To enhance the already high level of dynamic performance, the G37 Coupe 6MT and G37 Coupe Journey with Sport Package come standard with unique sport suspension, a Viscous Limited Slip Differential (VLSD) and a new wheel and tire package with 19x8.5-inch front wheels with 225/45WR19 front tires and 19x9-inch rear wheels with 245/40WR19 rear tires.

Seductive Styling

The G37 Coupe’s advanced performance systems are wrapped in an all-new seductive skin, giving the vehicle a kinetic feeling with emotional surface expression, sweeping character lines and tight panel gap lines.

“Compared with its predecessor, the G37 Coupe is longer, lower and wider – indicative of the power and technology of the vehicle,” said Igo.

Exterior highlights include flowing front fender curves, a wave-style hood, expressive front fascia with Infiniti’s signature double-arch grille and L-shaped High-Intensity Discharge (HID) bi-xenon headlights with integrated fog lamps. As with the new G35 Sedan, Infiniti developed a specialized production process for headlight installation to impart tight build tolerances and an exacting fit of the complex front fascia. The aluminum hood is secured by dual latches located at the two front corners to ensure an excellent fit.

The strong side character line and side sills integrate with the large wheel wells and the 18- or 19-inch performance-oriented wheel and tire packages to transmit an added sense of power and vibrancy.

The rear of the G Coupe features broad rear fenders, flowing into the large LED taillights – an Infiniti trademark, refined rear bumper, integrated RearView Monitor camera (when equipped), rear underbody air diffusers and large dual exhaust outlets with chrome finishers. An available rear spoiler gives the G37 Coupe zero rear lift, matching the standard zero-lift front aerodynamics.

The G37 Coupe Sport 6MT models and G37 Journey with Sport Package add an enhanced performance look, with a unique front fascia, special side sills and standard 19-inch aluminum-alloy wheels with high performance tires.

Eight exterior colors, including four new colors – Blue Slate, Platinum Graphite, Vibrant Red and Amethyst Graphite – are offered.

Sophisticated, Luxurious Interior

The 2008 G37 Coupe interior design features sophisticated craftsmanship, with a cockpit-oriented front driver and passenger area, Infiniti signature “double wave” instrument panel design featuring the Infiniti-signature analog clock and dramatic, full-length center console with a leather and aluminum-clad shifter. Special aluminum-alloy interior trim, inspired by elegant, handmade Japanese Washi paper, is located across the instrument panel, on the center console and on the door panels. Genuine African Rosewood trim is also available.

The instrument panel features Infiniti electroluminescent instrumentation with white-and-violet illumination and integrated multi-function information drive computer (average fuel consumption, real-time fuel economy, average speed, elapsed time, running distance, distance to empty, outside air temperature, warning displays, odometer and automatic transmission shift indicator) display.

Drivers grip a double hand-stitched leather-covered steering wheel, designed for maximum comfort and usability with wheel-mounted audio and cruise controls. Available genuine magnesium paddle shifters for the 5-speed automatic transmission fall readily to hand and add control (G37 Coupe Journey with Sport Package only).

The 8-way power driver and 4-way front passenger seats (8-way on G37 Coupe Journey, G37 Coupe Journey with Sport Package and G37 Coupe Sport 6MT model) are appointed with Infiniti’s exclusive premium leather and feature 2-way adjustable head restraints and a unique rear-seat access system, whereby the front seats will move forward automatically at the touch of a button to allow passengers into the rear seat.

The G37 Coupe Journey with Sport Package and G37 Coupe Sport 6MT add special 14-way sport-styled seats with thigh extensions and power adjustable torso and thigh bolsters for the driver, unique steering wheel stitching and high-grip aluminum pedals.

Technological and convenience features abound in the new G37 Coupe. Standard is the Infiniti Intelligent Key with push button ignition, Remote Keyless Entry system, a tilt/telescoping steering column with increased travel, illuminated glove compartment and automatic temperature control.

Also standard is a 6-speaker AM/FM/CD audio system with MP3 playback capability, Radio Data System (RDS) and center console-mounted auxiliary input, as well as a 7-inch color display.

Available is an 11-speaker Infiniti “Studio on Wheels”™ by Bose®, combining a 3-way front door speaker array using 10-inch woofers with an audiophile-quality head unit incorporating double oversampling 24-bit 96KHz Burr Brown® Digital Analogue Converters (DAC). Also available is a Bluetooth® hands-free phone system, new touch screen Infiniti Navigation System with available XM® NavTraffic™ real-time traffic information (requires XM® subscription required, sold separately), voice activation for navigation, audio and HVAC functions, and a 9.3-gigabyte Music Box hard drive with compact flash drive slot.

Three interior color combinations are offered – Wheat, Graphite and Stone.

Safety Performance and Technology

Available on the new G37 Coupe is an Adaptive Front lighting System (AFS), which automatically controls the headlight lighting pattern according to steering angle and vehicle speed to help provide better visibility at night.

Standard on all G37 Coupes is an Advanced Air Bag System (AABS) with dual-stage supplemental air bags with seat belt sensors and occupant classification sensor, front-seat side-impact supplemental air bags and roof-mounted side-impact curtain air bags for front- and rear-seat occupant head protection.

Also standard are 3-point ALR/ELR seat belts (driver’s side ELR only) and front seat belts with pretensioners and load limiters and adjustable upper anchors, driver and front-passenger knee bolsters, front seat Active Head Restraints and the LATCH (Lower Anchors and Tethers for CHildren) system. Available as part of the Technology Package are brake-operated pre-crash seat belts with motion sensor on the brake pedal.

The G37 Coupe features Zone Body Construction with front and rear crushable zones to help disperse crash energy around the passenger compartment. For occupant safety, the engine is designed to move under the occupant compartment in a high-speed frontal collision, while a breakaway construction of the propeller shaft (connected with the engine-drop function) and the double-wall construction of the bulkhead helps to minimize cabin deformation, especially in the lower leg area. In addition, the brake pedal is designed to collapse to help reduce lower leg injuries in a severe crash.

Three Well-Equipped Models

The 2008 Infiniti G37 Coupe is available in three models: G37 Coupe, G37 Coupe Journey and G37 Coupe Sport 6MT. In addition to the long list of standard features on all three models, several options and packages are available.

These include the Premium Package, with a power sliding glass moonroof, 11-speaker Infiniti “Studio on Wheels”™ by Bose® audio system with iPod connection, memory system (drivers seat, steering wheel and outside mirrors) with synchronization, power tilt and telescoping steering wheel, anti-glare rearview mirror with compass and HomeLink© Universal Transceiver, Bluetooth® hands-free phone system, and heated front seats and door mirrors.

Also offered is the Sport Package (available on G37 Journey model and standard on G37 Coupe Sport 6MT), which includes 19-inch wheels and tires, Viscous Limited-Slip Differential (VLSD), sport-tuned suspension, sport brakes, unique front fascia and side sills, sport-styled seats and steering wheel stitching, aluminum pedals and paddle shifters (G37 Coupe Journey only).

The Infiniti Navigation Package adds an advanced navigation system with touch-screen capability, available XM® NavTraffic™ real-time traffic information (XM® subscription required, sold separately), voice activation for navigation, audio and HVAC functions and a 9.3-gigabyte Music Box hard drive with compact flash drive slot, and RearView Monitor. The Technology Package includes Infiniti Intelligent Cruise Control (ICC) with Preview Braking, Adaptive Front lighting System (AFS) and, available for the first time on G Coupe, a “Pre-Crash Seatbelt” system.

Also available is the Infiniti 4-Wheel Active Steer system; Performance Wheel and Tire Package with 19-inch high performance tires featuring lightweight cast aluminum-alloy wheels; Moonroof; Rear Spoiler; and African Rosewood interior trim.

“When the original G Coupe was introduced, it proved to the world that exhilarating sport coupe performance doesn’t have to come in a machine-like box,” said Igo. “This new G37 Coupe, which we’re proudly showing for the first time anywhere in New York, is pure G and pure Infiniti – and ready to take center position on the world automotive stage.”

AutoSpies.com final verdict:

The Good: Amazing value for the money…if your decision is based on pure value logic, the Infiniti wins hands down. A similarly equipped 335 (radar cruise, etc.) is 10k more! For the price of the 328 Coupe you could be driving the G37, and we would. Intoxicating power and a reliability record that has everyone crying in Munich. More animated design than the 335. Loved the manual over the automatic tranny. Feels pure like the BMW’s of old when they were less complicated and less soft around the edges. Stickier on hard track turns and less prone to roll. Bigger Infiniti name and badge on back strokes my bling spot.

The Bad: Over styled and not as elegant of a design compared to the 335. I personally like the old G35 coupe design better. Interior bits and plastics substantially inferior to the 3, especially dash and door materials. Less sophisticated suspension than the 3-Series. Wish they offered a better set of color choices. Fuel economy at least 3 MPG lower than the 335. No free standard maintenance included.

The Ugly: Lower sport seat cushion extremely uncomfortable to wide bottoms. If the J. Geils Band wrote a song about the stereo the title would be ‘BOSE Stinks!’

Conclusion: If all your methodology is wrapped around the best bang for the buck and reliability then the G37 is the winner. Unfortunately for us, we have always been the kind of people who vote with their hearts and not their wallets. And it always ends up costing us more money! As great as the new G37 is and it truly is an awesome vehicle, it’s still not as good as the BMW 335 in our opinion. The 335 design will stand the test of time better than the G37 and it is the authentic item. It’s like owning a piece of moving art and knowing you have the original. Romance and seduction are involved when you make emotional decisions like these. And most of the logic flies totally out the window when you know you own the best. And in the Spies opinion the BMW is not only better than the G37, it’s one of the best cars of our time. Is that bad for Infiniti? Absolutely not…because most people think logically, not emotionally, so they will sell a ton of these. They have the closest TRUE competitor to a 3-Series in history…and that’s DAMN high praise coming from us. You can buy that kind of accolade from some of our competitors, but you can’t buy it from us. Great job to all the Infiniti team for this great car.



Does the 2008 Infiniti G37 beat the BMW 335? 001 gives you HIS verdict.



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JUGNUJUGNU - 7/27/2007 5:21:11 AMView My AgentSpace
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I respect your opinion and work Agent001.

but I am thinking emotionally and my chice is Infiniti G37 (opposite to what u said).

Reason: flawless gorgious and sleek design,VQ37VHR engine, 330BHP and that cool infinti interior.

BTW i can't wait for a new G37 to come to my showroom.I'll definately pick it and keep it for long.

JUGNU



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printhanprinthan - 7/27/2007 7:01:55 AM
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His opinion aint going to bring down the sales or break down the sales!!!.


JRobUSCJRobUSC - 7/27/2007 8:06:02 AM
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why do people, when asked for their reason to buy the Infiniti, keep saying "330hp", like it's an advantage over the 335i? Aside from the fact that dynos have shown the G and the 335i are making the same amount of horsepower the G is slower. A lot slower. Period.

You buy the G over the 335i because you like the looks, or because you don't like German cars, or because it's less expensive, etc. Those are reasons. "330hp" when it is slower in every regard is not one.



djaokidjaoki - 7/27/2007 7:54:01 AM
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Great information in there, 0011!

These are both two great cars that show how brilliant car design is becoming.


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Will_Will_ - 7/27/2007 8:01:22 AM
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Another BMW wins by way of "heart."

I heart you BMW!


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Auto_expertAuto_expert - 7/27/2007 8:41:03 AM
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I don't think this has much to do with "heart".

"The Bad: Over styled and NOT AS ELEGANT of a design compared to the 335. I personally like the old G35 coupe design better. INTERIOR BITS and plastics SUBSTANTIALLY INFERIOR to the 3, especially dash and door materials. LESS SOPHISTICATED SUSPENSION than the 3-Series. Wish they offered a better set of color choices. FUEL ECONOMY at least 3 MPG lower than the 335. No free standard maintenance included.

The Ugly: Lower sport seat cushion EXTREMELY UNCOMFORTABLE to wide bottoms. If the J. Geils Band wrote a song about the stereo the title would be ‘BOSE STINKS!’"

...and when 001 talks about heart, I think he's talking about, "Hey, the 3 series is just a better driving car all around." (my quote) Maybe he didn't want to seem like he was gushing too much over the 335i's driving characteristics.

But hey, what about the G37 as a competitor to the Lexus IS350? Who wins there? That seems the more logical comparison, since the 335i is in a whole other league.



Will_Will_ - 7/27/2007 8:48:41 AM
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From where I'm sitting the 335i clearly leads in exterior design, the G37 leads in interior design, and the 3 may have the upper-hand in the driving department but the very fact that we've been discussing the G37 vs. the 335i so relentlessly tells me that the G37 is not lacking in the driving department, and is at least worth a test-drive.

But with the way the 335i looks, along with the driving dynamics, BMW badging, free maintenance and lower monthly lease payments, I can definitely understand someone choosing a 335i over a G37.



IS3andMEIS3andME - 7/27/2007 8:14:28 AM
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Not to mention that the 335i has 300 pound feet of torque, if not more...versus the G37 270 pound feet. That is where you feel it, the torque will get you out of the corners.

My question is how will the G37 fair against the 135i with the same engines as the 335i...


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JRobUSCJRobUSC - 7/27/2007 9:30:11 AM
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I'm looking forward to that myself. The 135i will likely be a more direct competitor to the G37 based on interior and trunk room and, most importantly, price. If the 335i can run 0-60 in 4.8 seconds the 135i is going to probably be a 4.5 second car (a full second faster than the G), and it'll also likely outhandle both the 335i and the G37. And it'll be a $1k chip away from 400hp.

It'll be like a budget M3, frankly.



BM3WBM3W - 7/27/2007 11:38:25 AM
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The G37 will not fair any better against the 135i. In fact the 135i may just outdo the 335i.


JRobUSCJRobUSC - 7/27/2007 1:39:23 PM
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dugit, the 135i will offer the same interior and trunk space as the G and be the same price as the G. I'd say that makes it a G competitor. Only much faster.

I'm sure some people will buy the G because it looks "better". I'm also sure plenty of BMW enthusiasts will buy the BMW because it looks like a 2002, along with plenty of other people who never would have bought the the BMW because the 3-coupe cost more than the G making the G a better value (though in fairness the old 330Ci not only cost more it was slower than the G, as well -- now the 335i costs more but is way faster). Now with the 135i, the BMW doesn't cost more AND it's way way way faster.



QwazywabbitQwazywabbit - 7/27/2007 8:17:36 AM
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I have read many other people say the same thing-both are fantastic vehicles.
The 335 is clearly a better driver and daily commute car-the G is clearly the best compelling value in the market and the ONLY Japanese car that can come close to offering a driving experience close to the BMW.



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QwazywabbitQwazywabbit - 7/27/2007 8:21:58 AM
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By the way, before everyone begins to deboost me, keep in mind I have driven Nissan products since 1986-all maximas and one Infiniti I-30. I used to be on Maxima.org for years. I AM A HUGE FAN!
However,after driving about 9 cars to decide my next one, I chose the BMW. I had never driven one. Now I understand what people say about "heart", "magic feel", and the Ultimate Driving machine. I do own my first BMW currently (2007 335i), and it is truly the most amazing driving instrument I have ever driven.


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SevorbeupstryIsBackSevorbeupstryIsBack - 7/27/2007 12:19:53 PM
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And you even haven't driven an M-car. :)


QwazywabbitQwazywabbit - 7/27/2007 1:11:12 PM
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Actually, I have. Words cannot begin to describe taking out an M5 at Homestead Raceway. I have also taken out an SCCA M3 track car at Road Atlanta.




henbmwhenbmw - 7/27/2007 8:56:16 AM
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Godamnit. I have been filling myself with excuses to save money and get a 328i/G37 rather than a 335i but you damn journalists are making it impossible.

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QwazywabbitQwazywabbit - 7/27/2007 1:14:07 PM
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trust, you will be glad you did.


lewissalemlewissalem - 7/27/2007 9:36:54 AM
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Great review! I went with the 328i (too many speeding tickets.) I do think that overall the Infiniti is good for the market. It forces BMW to offer us more standard features.

Keep up the good work.


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henbmwhenbmw - 7/27/2007 11:30:30 AM
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That is one of my larger considerations, the tickets are getting excessive. With your 328i, have you yet seriously regretting not going for the 335i?


JRobUSCJRobUSC - 7/27/2007 10:29:34 AM
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which is, of course, an unproven statistic for two brand new models. Whip out the trusty crystal ball and predict the future, pick me some lottery winners while you're at it. They both come with warranties, right? Then both manufacturers expect things to break from time to time.

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BillBill - 7/27/2007 10:46:54 AM
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Infiniti hasn't been doing so great in reliability surveys, and BMW has been improving.

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KingerKinger - 7/27/2007 11:05:38 AM
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Reliability can be the luck of the draw in most cases, all manufacturers produce the odd dud. Plus there's so many reliability surveys out there all painting different pictures. I'd rather just buy what appeals to me.

All manufacturers are constantly trying to improve their reliability, the most unreliable cars these days are more reliable than the most reliable cars 20 years ago.


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montyz81montyz81 - 7/27/2007 12:29:53 PM
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The reason Infiniti has not done well reliability is due to the QX56. Which has just been redesigned and reworked. Also, it is the only infiniti built in the US. the rest are built in Japan.

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QwazywabbitQwazywabbit - 7/27/2007 1:18:55 PM
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GS, Toyota has had the top 3 automotive recalls in U.S. history--all within the past 4 years.

Reliability is just like Kinger said, luck of the draw. And, in addition to that, the various reliability studies to prove that Infiniti is sliding while BMW is gaining. A big reason for this is because the 750 and 650 problems per 100 has Dramatically dropped.
Take a can of reliability and smoke it.


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JRobUSCJRobUSC - 7/27/2007 1:55:19 PM
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"...so what u all are saying is that the results of this evaluation were based in emotion and the testors bias toward BMW anyway...the 'reliability' thing was just throwing a bone to G fans."

Throwing a bone to Infiniti fans? Possibly, the G "might" be more reliable, we won't know for several years. Bias towards BMW? Better is better. They liked it more, plain and simple. If the G won it would have been fair, right? But of course when the BMW does it's not, it's all bias. I guess if every time a comparison says a BMW is a better car they're biased, so be it, there's a lot of biased journalists out there then. Fine by me, it still counts.


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1970toyotamarc1970toyotamarc - 7/27/2007 3:47:14 PM
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Qwazywabbit, please back up that claim with a source. That's a pretty bold statement.

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QwazywabbitQwazywabbit - 7/27/2007 3:54:15 PM
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Gimme a bit of time--I have to find it again.

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QwazywabbitQwazywabbit - 7/27/2007 4:18:04 PM
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I was wrong about the largest recall--I read the edmunds.com article (below) and it was for Japan.
Ford and GM hold the dubious honor of the largest recalls in the U.S., but Toyota is not that far behind.

June 06 Full line--3.3 million units
http://www.autosafety.org/article.php?did=566&scid=

Toyota recall information:

Oct 05 Full line 1.4 millions units
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=107619

Jan 07 Tundra--1,533,000 units http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16697719/

May 06 Full line--1,000,000 units
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/recalls04/2006/toyota_worldwide.html



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JRobUSCJRobUSC - 7/27/2007 1:50:25 PM
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"Both cars will sell well, but for all you BMW junkies, the G37 will become your best bargaining chip."

I doubt it. I forsee the following:

BUYER: "Well the G37 is cheaper, if you don't give me a deal on the 335i Coupe I'll go buy that."
SELLER: "It sure is, I'm glad you noticed it was cheaper. Despite that the 335i Coupe has been sold out all year. The G is also smaller and slower. If you want cars that match up in price let me show you a 135i that is the same size and even higher performance. Or you can buy the slower G and save nothing."


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Bmw8terBmw8ter - 7/28/2007 2:11:55 AM
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That's funny dugit....that was a pretty stupid comment, especailly considering the 135 doesn't come out for another year or so.

Where I live, there are only 2 things that are impossible to find, and a 335i isn't one of them; the Nintendo Wii and a Lexus IS350.


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SevorbeupstryIsBackSevorbeupstryIsBack - 7/27/2007 12:07:37 PM
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"“The new 3.7-liter V6 is a true powerhouse – becoming more enjoyable as you drive it,” said Igo. “And, this powerplant also features Infiniti’s trademark “Swell” acceleration – introduced on the new G Sedan last year – with special tuning that builds horsepower almost continually to the redline like a building wave.”"


Hilarious.. simply hilarious.


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SevorbeupstryIsBackSevorbeupstryIsBack - 7/27/2007 12:11:04 PM
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Other than that I agree with your verdict for about 85%.

"and it is the authentic item."

It is.


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SevorbeupstryIsBackSevorbeupstryIsBack - 7/27/2007 12:13:04 PM
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"Is that bad for Infiniti? Absolutely not…because most people think logically, not emotionally, so they will sell a ton of these."

That's why Lexus and Acura sells so good. Americans like value for money and many Japanese cars cater to all those values.

Nice work 001.



supermotosupermoto - 7/27/2007 12:16:14 PM
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Great review 001. I think you nailed it.

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M53RM53R - 7/27/2007 1:27:11 PMView My AgentSpace
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Well done BMW and Infiniti for making 2 great cars.

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dwatsondwatson - 7/27/2007 5:38:45 PMView My AgentSpace
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I really agree with 001. The BMW is an "authentic product". The Infiniti appeals to people who are concerned with having the highest number of horsepower, paying less, and driving a car with aggressive and "animated" styling. These people aren't as OCD as most BMW drivers. I like the feel of all the materials in mine. Everything is soft, has nice grains, real wood, etc. I've ridden in plenty of g35's and know that when you sit in it, it's just, IMHO, "a nissan with leather". I know it's fast, I'm sure it handles well but trust me, in 10 years, people will still appreciate a 335 and the G37 will just be an old Infiniti.

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LexusLexus - 7/27/2007 8:47:38 PM
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Didn't Motor Trend pick the Infiniti G37 as the winner, I respect your decision Agent001. It is your opinion so I have to goes with Motor Trend who's has been around longer. No offense intended Agent001, I would definitely goes with the Infiniti G37 on look alone, plus the 330 hp.

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infinitiinfiniti - 7/28/2007 12:43:08 AM
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infiniti g37 hot

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bmwpowerf1bmwpowerf1 - 7/30/2007 4:54:54 AM
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who would take a nissan over a bmw?


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QwazywabbitQwazywabbit - 7/30/2007 4:32:17 PM
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Lots of people--it depends on the individual. The G will do just fine in the market.


LexSucksLexSucks - 7/30/2007 5:26:44 PM
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A fool


dvst8udvst8u - 8/2/2007 7:19:52 PM
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I find it odd that no one has mentioned the fact that the G35 and G37 are both naturally aspirated and pumping out some serious power. I drive an 07 G35S and a 2004 330CiM and I prefer my G. Prior to buying my G I test drove the 335i and other than pwr the car didn't do it for me. The shifter was too long, interior was just nasty, exterior is imo is not as nice as the previous generation, other than the twin turbo motor it didn't leave much to be desired. I'll stick to my 07 G and my 04 330...thx. The 335 is purely overated.

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